---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/29/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:15 PM - FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson (nico css) 2. 05:15 PM - Re: Survey Commanders (Steve W) 3. 05:29 PM - Re: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson (Steve W) 4. 09:50 PM - Re: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson (nico css) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:00 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson On Jeopardy the other night, the final question was How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns - all three missed it This is really an awesome sight to watch if you've never had the chance . Very fascinating. Tomb of the Unknown Soldier cid:image001.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 1. How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns and why? 21 steps. It alludes to the twenty-one gun salute, which is the highest honor given any military or foreign dignitary. cid:image002.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 2. How long does he hesitate after his about face to begin his return walk and why? 21 seconds for the same reason as answer number 1 cid:image003.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 3. Why are his gloves wet? His gloves are moistened to prevent his losing his grip on the rifle. cid:image004.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 4. Does he carry his rifle on the same shoulder all the time and if not, why not? He carries the rifle on the shoulder away from the tomb. After his march across the path, he executes an about face and moves the rifle to the outside shoulder. cid:image005.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 5. How often are the guards changed? Guards are changed every thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year. cid:image006.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 6. What are the physical traits of the guard limited to? For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be between 5' 10" and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30." Other requirements of the Guard: They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty for the rest of their lives. They cannot swear in public for the rest of their lives and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way. After two years, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on their lapel signifying they served as guard of the tomb. There are only 400 presently worn. The guard must obey these rules for the rest of their lives or give up the wreath pin. The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat and cold from their feet. There are metal heel plates that extend to the top of the shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt. There are no wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform. Guards dress for duty in front of a full-length mirror. The first six months of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor watch TV. All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery. A guard must memorize who they are and where they are interred. Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe E. Lewis {the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most decorated soldier of WWII} of Hollywood fame. Every guard spends five hours a day getting his uniforms ready for guard duty. cid:image007.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM. In 2003 as Hurricane Isabelle was approaching Washington, DC, our US Senate/House took 2 days off with anticipation of the storm. On the ABC evening news, it was reported that because of the dangers from the hurricane, the military members assigned the duty of guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were given permission to suspend the assignment. They respectfully declined the offer, "No way, Sir!" Soaked to the skin, marching in the pelting rain of a tropical storm, they said that guarding the Tomb was not just an assignment, it was the highest honor that can be afforded to a serviceperson. The tomb has been patrolled continuously, 24/7, since 1930. cid:image008.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 God Bless and keep them. I don't usually suggest that many emails be forwarded, but I'd be very proud if this one reached as many as possible. We can be very proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve. _____ Cannot help but make one think about values. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:44 PM PST US From: "Steve W" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Survey Commanders Craig, I was hoping somebody that knew this stuff better than me would give you a good answer. I think though, that you're talking about two different tests. One would be the dye penetrant of the radii of the lower spar cap. We do that one every year, just 'cus, but I believe that one is only required every other year. Then there is the looking for corrosion in the layers (or leaves) of the lower cap. As always, if I'm wrong on that, someone in the group should say so. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Kennedy To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Survey Commanders When I had my pre-purchase inspection done on 747H I was told the dye penetrant inspection was no longer valid and that the spar had to be xray's or sonigramed? Further,that the dye itself was found to be causing corrosion. Anybody heard this story. This was all done in October of last year. Craig WINGFLYER1@aol.com wrote: Ron, Thank you very much. I had the spars dye penetrated about a year and a half ago prior to buying the airplane and everything checked out o.k. Again thank you very much and if you have any other advice,I would appreciate hearing from you. Gil http://forums.matronics.com =========== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:55 PM PST US From: "Steve W" Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson Nico, As a junior high kid (maybe it was seventh grade?) our class went down to D.C. I was picked out of all the kids to participate in the laying of the wreath. Some stuff you'll always remember, and that's certainly one of them. I was proud and honored, still am, but didn't remember how many steps..... Don't know if they still do that for classes, but D.C. is still an amazing and inspiring place to visit. Everyone should. I do remember one of the guards making fun of my knees knocking..... Steve P.S. HBO has an excellent series running called John Adams, based on Historian David McCullough's work. Have you caught any of it? Excellent and accessible stuff on the revolution and the founding of the Union. ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css To: 'art la combe' Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Commander-List: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson On Jeopardy the other night, the final question was How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns - all three missed it This is really an awesome sight to watch if you've never had the chance . Very fascinating. Tomb of the Unknown Soldier 1. How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns and why? 21 steps. It alludes to the twenty-one gun salute, which is the highest honor given any military or foreign dignitary. 2. How long does he hesitate after his about face to begin his return walk and why? 21 seconds for the same reason as answer number 1 3. Why are his gloves wet? His gloves are moistened to prevent his losing his grip on the rifle. 4. Does he carry his rifle on the same shoulder all the time and if not, why not? He carries the rifle on the shoulder away from the tomb. After his march across the path, he executes an about face and moves the rifle to the outside shoulder. 5. How often are the guards changed? Guards are changed every thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year. 6. What are the physical traits of the guard limited to? For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be between 5' 10" and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30." Other requirements of the Guard: They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty for the rest of their lives. They cannot swear in public for the rest of their lives and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way. After two years, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on their lapel signifying they served as guard of the tomb. There are only 400 presently worn. The guard must obey these rules for the rest of their lives or give up the wreath pin. The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat and cold from their feet. There are metal heel plates that extend to the top of the shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt. There are no wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform. Guards dress for duty in front of a full-length mirror. The first six months of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor watch TV. All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery. A guard must memorize who they are and where they are interred. Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe E. Lewis {the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most decorated soldier of WWII} of Hollywood fame. Every guard spends five hours a day getting his uniforms ready for guard duty. ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM. In 2003 as Hurricane Isabelle was approaching Washington, DC, our US Senate/House took 2 days off with anticipation of the storm. On the ABC evening news, it was reported that because of the dangers from the hurricane, the military members assigned the duty of guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were given permission to suspend the assignment. They respectfully declined the offer, "No way, Sir!" Soaked to the skin, marching in the pelting rain of a tropical storm, they said that guarding the Tomb was not just an assignment, it was the highest honor that can be afforded to a serviceperson. The tomb has been patrolled continuously, 24/7, since 1930. God Bless and keep them. I don't usually suggest that many emails be forwarded, but I'd be very proud if this one reached as many as possible. We can be very proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Cannot help but make one think about values. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:47 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson I plan to do just that, Steve. Thanks _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson Nico, As a junior high kid (maybe it was seventh grade?) our class went down to D.C. I was picked out of all the kids to participate in the laying of the wreath. Some stuff you'll always remember, and that's certainly one of them. I was proud and honored, still am, but didn't remember how many steps..... Don't know if they still do that for classes, but D.C. is still an amazing and inspiring place to visit. Everyone should. I do remember one of the guards making fun of my knees knocking..... Steve P.S. HBO has an excellent series running called John Adams, based on Historian David McCullough's work. Have you caught any of it? Excellent and accessible stuff on the revolution and the founding of the Union. ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Commander-List: FW: Unknown Soldier history lesson On Jeopardy the other night, the final question was How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns - all three missed it This is really an awesome sight to watch if you've never had the chance . Very fascinating. Tomb of the Unknown Soldier cid:image001.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 1. How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns and why? 21 steps. It alludes to the twenty-one gun salute, which is the highest honor given any military or foreign dignitary. cid:image002.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 2. How long does he hesitate after his about face to begin his return walk and why? 21 seconds for the same reason as answer number 1 cid:image003.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 3. Why are his gloves wet? His gloves are moistened to prevent his losing his grip on the rifle. cid:image004.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 4. Does he carry his rifle on the same shoulder all the time and if not, why not? He carries the rifle on the shoulder away from the tomb. After his march across the path, he executes an about face and moves the rifle to the outside shoulder. cid:image005.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 5. How often are the guards changed? Guards are changed every thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year. cid:image006.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 6. What are the physical traits of the guard limited to? For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be between 5' 10" and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30." Other requirements of the Guard: They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty for the rest of their lives. They cannot swear in public for the rest of their lives and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way. After two years, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on their lapel signifying they served as guard of the tomb. There are only 400 presently worn. The guard must obey these rules for the rest of their lives or give up the wreath pin. The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat and cold from their feet. There are metal heel plates that extend to the top of the shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt. There are no wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform. Guards dress for duty in front of a full-length mirror. The first six months of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor watch TV. All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery. A guard must memorize who they are and where they are interred. Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe E. Lewis {the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most decorated soldier of WWII} of Hollywood fame. Every guard spends five hours a day getting his uniforms ready for guard duty. cid:image007.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM. In 2003 as Hurricane Isabelle was approaching Washington, DC, our US Senate/House took 2 days off with anticipation of the storm. On the ABC evening news, it was reported that because of the dangers from the hurricane, the military members assigned the duty of guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were given permission to suspend the assignment. They respectfully declined the offer, "No way, Sir!" Soaked to the skin, marching in the pelting rain of a tropical storm, they said that guarding the Tomb was not just an assignment, it was the highest honor that can be afforded to a serviceperson. The tomb has been patrolled continuously, 24/7, since 1930. cid:image008.jpg@01C8A9D4.498912A0 God Bless and keep them. I don't usually suggest that many emails be forwarded, but I'd be very proud if this one reached as many as possible. We can be very proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve. _____ Cannot help but make one think about values. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.