---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/03/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:58 AM - Re: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In (Barry Collman) 2. 05:13 PM - Re: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In (Tylor Hall) 3. 06:00 PM - SB-90C (Ray Mansfield) 4. 06:10 PM - Re: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In (nico css) 5. 06:21 PM - Re: SB-90C (James Addington) 6. 06:56 PM - Re: SB-90C (Ray Mansfield) 7. 08:00 PM - Re: SB-90C (Jim Addington) 8. 09:11 PM - Re: SB-90C (Tom Fisher) 9. 09:13 PM - Re: SB-90C (Ray Mansfield) 10. 09:17 PM - Re: SB-90C (Ray Mansfield) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:04 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In Hi Nico, Wow! That certainly catches the eye. Nobody can miss that, surely. Grateful thanks and well done! Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:22 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In Nico was listening. See if what I have done is sufficient. Let me know if any changes are necessary. As more information becomes available, I will make the text clickable and open a separate page with all the info and perhaps an application which I will then automatically send off to the organizing committee. (:-D) Thanks Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:57 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In Ladies & Gentlemen, I know that September 18-21 seems a long way ahead but, believe me, it will be upon us all in next to no time. It certainly isn't too early to consider ways "we" can help Capt. JimBob in ensuring that the 60th Anniversary event will be the best-attended one ever. The nature of the occasion certainly means that it ought to be. Firstly, one way to help will be by word of mouth. If you have another Commander owner on your airport, or one known of nearby, surely it cannot be too much trouble to find the owner and talk to him about the Flight Group and the event. Of course, it will be best to have full details of Membership and fees etc. to hand, but they're not then the lead can be followed-up. Secondly, when I visit the FAA Records Center after the Fly-In each year, one thing I do to up-date my database, is to record details of the Commanders that have changed hands since my previous visit. This includes any telephone or other contact details that may be in the FAA paperwork. Therefore, if anybody is willing to make some telephone calls, I can 'pull' any records from my database for any given State, where I have a Telephone number. Included in what I send will be the aircraft Serial Number; 'N' number and the date they acquired their Commander. Enough detail to let the Owner know that we do know something about them and they are important! Of course, there is always the chance that the person you phone knows about the event already, but it gives you both a chance to chat about Commanders anyway, so the call isn't wasted! Thirdly, I hope Nico is "listening", as the "aerocommander.com" website needs to trumpet the event, LOUDLY and in no uncertain fashion. Necessary details ought to be on the 'front page' without the need to click to a link. Then, there could be a link to the "nitty-gritty" details. (Nico: on the front page, "entusiasts" needs amending to "enthusiasts"). Lastly, I think we ought to try and get some media coverage to publish the event. I have made a very rough draft of a News Item that "we" could submit to various magazines etc. What I'm not sure of though are the best places to approach. I'm sure you will all know which sources are more likely to be read by Commander owners. I'm sure that Capt JimBob will be busy enough already and will welcome help in making this event a truly memorable one. I'm sure that nobody truly understands what goes on, months in advance, to make these Fly-Ins happen, so if we can all "do our bit" to help, we will all benefit at the end of the day. Any comments or other ideas will be welcome !! Very Best Regards, Barry href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:14 PM PST US From: Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In OK, we get the point of WHEN. Lots of big and bold. Where? Still showing 2007 info on the next page? ;) Tylor Hall On Jun 3, 2008, at 3:57 AM, Barry Collman wrote: > Hi Nico, > > Wow! That certainly catches the eye. > Nobody can miss that, surely. > > Grateful thanks and well done! > > Best Regards, > Barry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nico css > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:22 AM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In > > Nico was listening. See if what I have done is sufficient. Let me > know if any changes are necessary. As more information becomes > available, I will make the text clickable and open a separate page > with all the info and perhaps an application which I will then > automatically send off to the organizing committee. (:-D) > > Thanks > > Nico > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Barry Collman > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:57 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In > > Ladies & Gentlemen, > > I know that September 18-21 seems a long way ahead but, believe me, > it will be upon us all in next to no time. > > It certainly isn't too early to consider ways "we" can help Capt. > JimBob in ensuring that the 60th Anniversary event will be the best- > attended one ever.The nature of the occasion certainly means that it > ought to be. > > Firstly, one way to help will be by word of mouth. > If you have another Commander owner on your airport, or one known of > nearby, surely it cannot be too much trouble to find the owner and > talk to him about the Flight Group and the event. > Of course, it will be best to have full details of Membership and > fees etc. to hand, but they're not then the lead can be followed-up. > > Secondly, when I visit the FAA Records Center after the Fly-In each > year, one thing I do to up-date my database, is to record details of > the Commanders that have changed hands since my previous visit. > This includes any telephone or other contact details that may be in > the FAA paperwork. > Therefore, if anybody is willing to make some telephone calls, I can > 'pull' any records from my database for any given State, where I > have a Telephone number. > Included in what I send will be the aircraft Serial Number; 'N' > number and the date they acquired their Commander. > Enough detail to let the Owner know that we do know something about > them and they are important! > Of course, there is always the chance that the person you phone > knows about the event already, but it gives you both a chance to > chat about Commanders anyway, so the call isn't wasted! > > Thirdly, I hope Nico is "listening", as the "aerocommander.com" > website needs to trumpet the event, LOUDLY and in no uncertain > fashion. > Necessary details ought to be on the 'front page' without the need > to click to a link. > Then, there could be a link to the "nitty-gritty" details. > (Nico: on the front page, "entusiasts" needs amending to > "enthusiasts"). > > Lastly, I think we ought to try and get some media coverage to > publish the event. > I have made a very rough draft of a News Item that "we" could submit > to various magazines etc. > What I'm not sure of though are the best places to approach. > I'm sure you will all know which sources are more likely to be read > by Commander owners. > > I'm sure that Capt JimBob will be busy enough already and will > welcome help in making this event a truly memorable one. > I'm sure that nobody truly understands what goes on, months in > advance, to make these Fly-Ins happen, so if we can all "do our bit" > to help, we will all benefit at the end of the day. > > Any comments or other ideas will be welcome !! > > Very Best Regards, > Barry > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:38 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Clear DayHello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? Thank you, Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:51 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In Hi Tylor, As soon as that information becomes available, I'll be sure to post them on the site and replace the 2007 page. Thanks for commenting. Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In OK, we get the point of WHEN. Lots of big and bold. Where? Still showing 2007 info on the next page? ;) Tylor Hall On Jun 3, 2008, at 3:57 AM, Barry Collman wrote: Hi Nico, Wow! That certainly catches the eye. Nobody can miss that, surely. Grateful thanks and well done! Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:22 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In Nico was listening. See if what I have done is sufficient. Let me know if any changes are necessary. As more information becomes available, I will make the text clickable and open a separate page with all the info and perhaps an application which I will then automatically send off to the organizing committee. (:-D) Thanks Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: Commander-List: The 2008 "60th Anniversary" Fly-In Ladies & Gentlemen, I know that September 18-21 seems a long way ahead but, believe me, it will be upon us all in next to no time. It certainly isn't too early to consider ways "we" can help Capt. JimBob in ensuring that the 60th Anniversary event will be the best-attended one ever.The nature of the occasion certainly means that it ought to be. Firstly, one way to help will be by word of mouth. If you have another Commander owner on your airport, or one known of nearby, surely it cannot be too much trouble to find the owner and talk to him about the Flight Group and the event. Of course, it will be best to have full details of Membership and fees etc. to hand, but they're not then the lead can be followed-up. Secondly, when I visit the FAA Records Center after the Fly-In each year, one thing I do to up-date my database, is to record details of the Commanders that have changed hands since my previous visit. This includes any telephone or other contact details that may be in the FAA paperwork. Therefore, if anybody is willing to make some telephone calls, I can 'pull' any records from my database for any given State, where I have a Telephone number. Included in what I send will be the aircraft Serial Number; 'N' number and the date they acquired their Commander. Enough detail to let the Owner know that we do know something about them and they are important! Of course, there is always the chance that the person you phone knows about the event already, but it gives you both a chance to chat about Commanders anyway, so the call isn't wasted! Thirdly, I hope Nico is "listening", as the "aerocommander.com" website needs to trumpet the event, LOUDLY and in no uncertain fashion. Necessary details ought to be on the 'front page' without the need to click to a link. Then, there could be a link to the "nitty-gritty" details. (Nico: on the front page, "entusiasts" needs amending to "enthusiasts"). Lastly, I think we ought to try and get some media coverage to publish the event. I have made a very rough draft of a News Item that "we" could submit to various magazines etc. What I'm not sure of though are the best places to approach. I'm sure you will all know which sources are more likely to be read by Commander owners. I'm sure that Capt JimBob will be busy enough already and will welcome help in making this event a truly memorable one. I'm sure that nobody truly understands what goes on, months in advance, to make these Fly-Ins happen, so if we can all "do our bit" to help, we will all benefit at the end of the day. Any comments or other ideas will be welcome !! Very Best Regards, Barry href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:20 PM PST US From: "James Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: SB-90C Check with John Towner, if it is the one I am thinking about they have a much better way. Jim Addington _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Hello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? Thank you, Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:52 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Clear DayThanks Jim, I'll do that. Do you have an email address or phone number for Mr. Towner? RM ----- Original Message ----- From: James Addington To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SB-90C Check with John Towner, if it is the one I am thinking about they have a much better way. Jim Addington ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:58 PM To: Matronics List Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Hello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? Thank you, Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:28 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: SB-90C I have tried to email him but don't have the right address. His phone is 816-472 7711. You can try this address johntowner@centeralairsouthwest.com. They don't come any better than John. Jim Addington _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Thanks Jim, I'll do that. Do you have an email address or phone number for Mr. Towner? RM ----- Original Message ----- From: James Addington Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SB-90C Check with John Towner, if it is the one I am thinking about they have a much better way. Jim Addington _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Hello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? Thank you, Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:23 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Clear DayLet me know what he says if posted off-list. Tom. C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Mansfield To: Matronics List Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Hello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? Thank you, Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:39 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Clear DayHi Jim, I sent John Towner an email but it came back to me also. I'll try calling him in the morning. Thanks for the help. RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Addington To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:57 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SB-90C I have tried to email him but don't have the right address. His phone is 816-472 7711. You can try this address johntowner@centeralairsouthwest.com. They don't come any better than John. Jim Addington ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:55 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Thanks Jim, I'll do that. Do you have an email address or phone number for Mr. Towner? RM ----- Original Message ----- From: James Addington To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SB-90C Check with John Towner, if it is the one I am thinking about they have a much better way. Jim Addington ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:58 PM To: Matronics List Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Hello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? Thank you, Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:04 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Clear DaySure will. RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Fisher To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: SB-90C Let me know what he says if posted off-list. Tom. C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Mansfield To: Matronics List Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Commander-List: SB-90C Hello, The AD related to Service Bulletin 90D is due on the Aero Commander I fly (680 FLP, N91ES). That SB pertains to the wing spar cap inspection due every (now) 750 hours. Looks like we'll have to take the center fuel cell out for that job. By chance, does anyone know of a situation where one can avoid taking the fuel cell out but still be able to complete the inspection? 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