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1. 11:04 AM - ebay 224HA (Chris)
2. 02:42 PM - Re: ebay 224HA (Peter Bichier)
3. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: ebay 224HA (Don)
4. 06:18 PM - AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation (Ray Mansfeld)
5. 06:26 PM - Re: ebay 224HA (yourtcfg@aol.com)
6. 07:03 PM - Re: AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation (Chris)
7. 07:04 PM - Re: ebay 224HA (Chris)
8. 08:13 PM - Re: ebay 224HA (Don Barry Home)
9. 09:29 PM - Re: ebay 224HA (John Vormbaum)
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Who's selling 560E N224HA on ebay? That airplane looks familiar, but I
don't remember where I've seen it....
Wonder if there is something significantly wrong with it.
chris
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I think it's Don Girod 560E ser#567.
The annual was done about a year ago, it looks gorgeous from the pictures, has
been advertised for sale since July.
Don has even posted pictures of his plane here, don't know if he is still part
of the group though.
Sad to see one classic leave the group...
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560 Dreamer
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210395#210395
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Now you've done it Peter.
NO it's not mine!
Mine is N2707B S# 555
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Bichier" <pbichie@UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: ebay 224HA
> <pbichie@UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
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> I think it's Don Girod 560E ser#567.
>
> The annual was done about a year ago, it looks gorgeous from the pictures,
> has been advertised for sale since July.
>
> Don has even posted pictures of his plane here, don't know if he is still
> part of the group though.
>
> Sad to see one classic leave the group...
>
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> 560 Dreamer
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210395#210395
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| Subject: | AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation |
Am having a problem with the left engine on the 680 FLP I fly (Mr. RPM Conversion).
Takeoff is fine but on climb out the left engine RPM is unsteady, somewhat
like a prop that won't stabilize. Here's some info:
1. The problem seems to occur primarily during climb as I bring the
turbos up (I've got manual turbos)
2. The fluctuation is random as to when it occurs and how much the RPM
fluctuates...probably 10-20 RPM. Sometimes it's noticeable as the
aircraft yaws, sometimes it's not noticeable.
3. Sometimes it seems that leaning the mixture helps a bit but not
always
4. I've also noticed that sometimes when the problem has occured on a
flight that on shutdown of the engine after landing, it doesn't want to
stop running with the mixture pulled all the way to lean/idle-cutoff.
5. Sometimes I the lean the mixture during the 1500 RPM ground check
and the RPM goes up 50 RPM or so, sometimes it doesn't
6. Once I level off the problem seems to disappear or be almost
un-noticeable. Although tonight I applied full rich mixture while in level
flight at 4,500' and I could notice a slight RPM fluctuation if I paid close
attention.
7. Fuel pressure is normal and turning the fuel pump on or off has no
affect on the engine
My thoughts:
1. I think the problem is in some fuel metering mechanism in the
carburetor that is unsteady
2. At one point I thought there might be a leak in the turbo pressure
lines causing a fluctuation in turbo air to the engine
3. Now, with the engine shut down problem (doesn't happen every time)
I think there is a link between the turbo air (as I bring it up on climb)
and fuel metering. They are probably interrelated.
I've received help from many of you out there before. Has anyone had this type
problem occur and if so what might be the problem?
Thank you,
Ray Mansfield
N91ES
850-217-5185
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Sadly, the airplane is a rat.? The photos were taken years ago, there is an abundance
of surface corrosion that has been painted over with a brush.?The corrosion
in the gear trusses is not repairable or annualable.? The estimate to do
the annual (not including the corrosion issues) is over 40K, sad.? jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:00 am
Subject: Commander-List: ebay 224HA
?
Who's selling 560E N224HA on ebay? That airplane looks familiar, but I don't remember
where I've seen it....?
Wonder if there is something significantly wrong with it.?
?
chris?
?
?
?
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| Subject: | Re: AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation |
Ray Mansfeld wrote:
> I've received help from many of you out there before. Has anyone had this type
problem occur and if so what might be the problem?
Do you have a multi-channel EGT/CHT system? If so, what are the EGT's
doing when this occurs.
There are several possible problems which could cause this, but it does
sound like you're looking in the right area. Have you carefully
inspected the upper deck reference lines? That would be my first guess
before digging into the injection body. I think those were all hand
fabricated by mrrpm since a normal io-720 wouldn't have them. Look for
a cracked line at the solder joint on the injector.
chris
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yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
> Sadly, the airplane is a rat.
that is indeed a shame. If the known parts are that bad, I'd sure
wonder about the hidden stuff (like the hangars behind the firewall that
attach to the trusses).
Another one headed either to the scrap yard or an unsuspecting new owner
who will be in for a shock.
chris
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Sold for #33,601.00 to a user "skyhawk_c-172".
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay 224HA
yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
> Sadly, the airplane is a rat.
that is indeed a shame. If the known parts are that bad, I'd sure
wonder about the hidden stuff (like the hangars behind the firewall that
attach to the trusses).
Another one headed either to the scrap yard or an unsuspecting new owner
who will be in for a shock.
chris
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Interesting, skyhawk_c-172 is someone who's posted on the Commander
list...I just can't remember who. I hope he didn't get in over his head
with this old airplane.
/J
Don Barry Home wrote:
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> Sold for #33,601.00 to a user "skyhawk_c-172".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:01 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay 224HA
>
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> yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
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>> Sadly, the airplane is a rat.
>>
>
> that is indeed a shame. If the known parts are that bad, I'd sure
> wonder about the hidden stuff (like the hangars behind the firewall that
> attach to the trusses).
> Another one headed either to the scrap yard or an unsuspecting new owner
> who will be in for a shock.
>
> chris
>
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