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1. 06:01 AM - Re: AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation (Robert S. Randazzo)
2. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: (Robert S. Randazzo)
3. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: (BertBerry1@aol.com)
4. 07:53 AM - Anybody want to trade their P51 for my 500B? (Dan Farmer)
5. 09:07 AM - Re: (yourtcfg@aol.com)
6. 02:44 PM - Re: (Nancy Gilliam)
7. 06:33 PM - Sunset (Dan Farmer)
8. 07:04 PM - Re: Sunset (Alan Kucheck)
9. 08:02 PM - Re: Sunset (yourtcfg@aol.com)
10. 08:02 PM - Re: (yourtcfg@aol.com)
11. 08:57 PM - Re: Sunset (Jim Addington)
12. 09:22 PM - Re: Sunset (Robert S. Randazzo)
13. 09:27 PM - Re: Sunset (nico css)
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Subject: | AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation |
Gents-
Trace wasn't racing their engine- they merely had one on display and were
providing sales support for it.
Even with a pair of V8s, the 685 wouldn't give much of a chase in the
unlimited heat!
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC-680 FLP Engine RPM Fluctuation
BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> Those folks wanted nothing to do with it even though the numbers
> worked out quite favorably.
Wow, I would have never thought I'd disagree with Old Bob on anything,
but I have a little different perspective on this one. I suspect that
if you took a poll of Turbine Commander and King Air owners that darn
few of them have ever heard of the Orenda project, let alone evaluated
it as an option. Since (to the best of my knowledge), no
STC/certification was ever achieved for those airplanes ,no significant
operating history exists, and no advertising was ever done in places
where corp owners would have seen it, I don't think the product ever mad
it out of the shadows. I also don't think that the engine would have
ever gained much momentum without some significant operational
experience. Corporate owners don't seem to be the type to pounce on a
major unproven powerplant option to me. Nico's point that a few Reno
win's would help put them on the map is valid, but they'd need a good
test fleet building hours to make it attractive to the target market.
I remember hearing that there were some significant problems with the
Commander test vehicle, but don't remember the specifics. Anyone else
know more than I do?
cheers,
Chris
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Subject: | Re: : Commander-List: |
JB-
What was that 985 hanging on?
I've got a 1340 on the SNJ. I'd go look at foliage this weekend, but we're
expecting a bit of a blower and the sage brush just turns from brownish
green to brownish brown out here. :-p
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
GREAT STUFF. I flew my P&W, R-985 last night looking at the fall foliage,
the start procedures is just like that!!! I could ad that even the shut
down is cool. Hold the brakes, don't point the prop blast at anything
important. Advance the throttle to about 1500RPM and slowly move the mix to
idle cut off. Then as the engine winds down, close the throttle. This
scavenges oil out of the sump, back to the tank after the taxi. Not a bad
idea in a Commander with geared engine ether, they are "dry sump" just like
a radial. jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 7:29 am
Subject: Commander-List:
You young kids have all missed the boat, round engines are the best.
Jim Addington
Subject: Engines - Rotary vs. Turbine
Between A Radial Engine And A Jet Engine
Round engines are commonly known as Radial engines. The piston Jugs
are placed in a circle. Hence "Round" engines. Turbine engines are
known as Jet engines. We gotta get rid of those turbines, they're
ruining aviation and our hearing.
A turbine is too simple minded, it has no mystery. The air travels
through it in a straight line and doesn't pick up any of the pungent
fragrance of engine oil or pilot sweat. Anybody can start a turbine.
You just need to move a switch from "OFF" to "START" and then remember
to move it back to "ON" after a while. My PC is harder to start.
Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. You have to
seduce it into starting. It's like waking up a mistress On some
planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it. Turbines start by
whining for a while, then give a lady-like poof and start whining a
little louder.
Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click, BANG, more
rattles, another BANG, a big macho FART or two, more clicks, a lot
more smoke and finally a serious low pitched roar. We like that. It's
a GUY thing.
When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you can
concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting turbine is like flicking on
aceiling fan:
Useful, but, hardly exciting.
When you have started his round engine successfully your Crew Chief
looks up at you like he'd let you kiss his girl, too! Turbines don't
break or catch fire often enough, which leads to aircrew boredom,
complacency and inattention. A round engine at speed looks and sounds
like it's going to blow any minute. This helps concentrate the mind.
Turbines don't have enough control levers or gauges to keep a pilot's
attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman Lamps. Round
engines smell like God intended machines to smell.
Pass this on to an old WWII guy (or his son, or anyone who ever flew
them) in remembrance of the "Greatest Generation".
AOL News.
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Subject: | Anybody want to trade their P51 for my 500B? |
Hi all:
-
I received this from a friend- many of you may have seen it.-
This tribute to the Gray Eagles (WWII pilots) was in conjunction with an ai
rshow in Ohio called "The Final Roundup." -It was the last large gatherin
g of the remaining P-51 Mustang fighters used during WWII. -There were ab
out 120 of the fighters there, all of them in flying condition, of course.
-The flyover
seen at the end of the video is composed entirely of P51s spelling out the
number 51. -It was an event that may never be seen again.
http://www.grayeagles.org/video.htm
Turn up the sound!
I think it is terriffic.
-
dan
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Subject: | Re: mander-List: |
It is on a "homebuilt" Grumman Ag-Cat.=C2- It is now a three place, open c
ockpit bi-plane, usually on floats but currently back on wheels.=C2- I lov
e the 1340,=C2- flew Ag for 15 years and have many thousands of hours behi
nd a 1340, geared 1340 and the 985.=C2- jb
What was that 985 hanging on
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert S. Randazzo <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 6:10 am
Subject: RE: Re: Commander-List:
JB-
=C2-
What was that 985 hanging on?
=C2-
I=99ve got a 1340 on the SNJ=C2- I=99d go look at fol
iage this weekend, but we=99re expecting a bit of a blower and the sag
e brush just turns from brownish green to brownish brown out here.=C2- :-p
=C2-
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
=C2-
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list
-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
=C2-
GREAT STUFF.=C2- I flew my P&W,=C2-R-985 last night looking at the fall
foliage, the start procedures is just like that!!!=C2- I could ad that eve
n the shut down is cool.=C2- Hold the brakes, don't point the prop blast a
t anything important.=C2- Advance the throttle to about 1500RPM=C2-and s
lowly move the mix to idle cut off.=C2- Then as the engine winds down,=C2
-close the throttle.=C2- This scavenges oil out of the sump, back to the
tank after the taxi.=C2- Not a bad idea in a Commander with geared engine
ether, they are "dry sump" just like a radial.=C2- jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 7:29 am
Subject: Commander-List:
You young kids have all missed the boat, round engines are the best.
Jim Addington
=C2-
=C2-
Subject: Engines - Rotary vs. Turbine
=C2-
Between A Radial Engine And A Jet Engine
Round engines are commonly known as Radial engines. The piston Jugs
are placed in a circle. Hence "Round" engines. Turbine engines are
known as Jet engines. We gotta get rid of those turbines, they're
ruining aviation and our hearing.
A turbine is too simple minded, it has no mystery. The air travels
through it in a straight line and doesn't pick up any of the pungent
fragrance of engine oil or pilot sweat. Anybody can start a turbine.
You just need to move a switch from "OFF" to "START" and then remember
to move it back to "ON" after a while. My PC is harder to start.
Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. You have to
seduce it into starting. It's like waking up a mistress On some
planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it. Turbines start by
whining for a while, then give a lady-like poof and start whining a
little louder.
Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click, BANG, more
rattles, another BANG, a big macho FART or two, more clicks, a lot
more smoke and finally a serious low pitched roar. We like that. It's
a GUY thing.
When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you can
concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting turbine is like flicking on
aceiling fan:
Useful, but, hardly exciting.
When you have started his round engine successfully your Crew Chief
looks up at you like he'd let you kiss his girl, too! Turbines don't
break or catch fire often enough, which leads to aircrew boredom,
complacency and inattention. A round engine at speed looks and sounds
like it's going to blow any minute. This helps concentrate the mind.
Turbines don't have enough control levers or gauges to keep a pilot's
attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman Lamps. Round
engines smell like God intended machines to smell.
Pass this on to an old WWII guy (or his son, or anyone who ever flew
them) in remembrance of the "Greatest Generation".
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
AOL News.
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Can you sell rides in the AG CAT ?? I assume it is in experimental catagory
. I'm fighting with myself about going experimental with my 450 Stearman or
going to the
expense of standard catagory. I would like a wide seat in the front also.
Of course my 500 Commander is my favorite go somewhere airplane.
Roland Gilliam
Oct 2008 12:05:06 -0400From: yourtcfg@aol.comIt is on a "homebuilt" Grumma
n Ag-Cat. It is now a three place=2C open cockpit bi-plane=2C usually on f
loats but currently back on wheels. I love the 1340=2C flew Ag for 15 yea
rs and have many thousands of hours behind a 1340=2C geared 1340 and the 98
5. jb
What was that 985 hanging on-----Original Message-----From: Robert S. Randa
zzo <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>To: commander-list@matronics.comSent:
Fri=2C 31 Oct 2008 6:10 amSubject: RE: Re: Commander-List:
JB-
What was that 985 hanging on?
I=92ve got a 1340 on the SNJ=85 I=92d go look at foliage this weekend=2C b
ut we=92re expecting a bit of a blower and the sage brush just turns from b
rownish green to brownish brown out here. :-p
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.comSent: Thursday=2C Octo
ber 30=2C 2008 9:11 AMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Commande
r-List:
GREAT STUFF. I flew my P&W=2C R-985 last night looking at the fall foliage
=2C the start procedures is just like that!!! I could ad that even the shu
t down is cool. Hold the brakes=2C don't point the prop blast at anything
important. Advance the throttle to about 1500RPM and slowly move the mix t
o idle cut off. Then as the engine winds down=2C close the throttle. This
scavenges oil out of the sump=2C back to the tank after the taxi. Not a b
ad idea in a Commander with geared engine ether=2C they are "dry sump" just
like a radial. jb-----Original Message-----From: Jim Addington <jtaddingt
on@verizon.net>To: Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net>Sent: Thu=2C 30 O
ct 2008 7:29 amSubject: Commander-List:
You young kids have all missed the boat=2C round engines are the best.
Jim Addington
Subject: Engines - Rotary vs. Turbine
Between A Radial Engine And A Jet EngineRound engines are commonly known as
Radial engines. The piston Jugsare placed in a circle. Hence "Round" engin
es. Turbine engines areknown as Jet engines. We gotta get rid of those turb
ines=2C they'reruining aviation and our hearing.A turbine is too simple min
ded=2C it has no mystery. The air travelsthrough it in a straight line and
doesn't pick up any of the pungentfragrance of engine oil or pilot sweat. A
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ART" and then rememberto move it back to "ON" after a while. My PC is harde
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ttles=2C another BANG=2C a big macho FART or two=2C more clicks=2C a lotmor
e smoke and finally a serious low pitched roar. We like that. It'sa GUY thi
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rate on the flight ahead. Starting turbine is like flicking onaceiling fan:
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tion. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.Turbines smell lik
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-Landies and Gentlemen:
-
I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my m
ind.
Today was my last day at American Airlines.- I decided to retire early at
58 for many reasons.- Mostly after 31 years at American I want to do a d
ifferent type of flying and also if I worked past Nov 1 I would have taken
a wack on my retirement.- The engine part is that after 36 years and abou
t 18000 hours in jets I have never had an engine failure.- One time in a
B52 we shut one down for low oil pressure--WOW only 7 left, that is scary.
-
IF IT IS NOT BOEING I AM NOT GOING---unless it is a COMMANDER:-)))
-
dan =0A=0A=0A
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Congratulations, Dan! Please post tales of your upcoming adventures...
ak
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Landies and Gentlemen:
>
> I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my
> mind.
> Today was my last day at American Airlines. I decided to retire early at
> 58 for many reasons. Mostly after 31 years at American I want to do a
> different type of flying and also if I worked past Nov 1 I would have taken
> a wack on my retirement. The engine part is that after 36 years and about
> 18000 hours in jets I have never had an engine failure. One time in a B52
> we shut one down for low oil pressure--WOW only 7 left, that is scary.
>
> IF IT IS NOT BOEING I AM NOT GOING---unless it is a COMMANDER:-)))
>
> dan
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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So this means you can go on the cruse with us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? Yiippee!!? jb
?Landies and Gentlemen:
?
I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my mind.
Today was my last day at American Airlines.?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 6:31 pm
Subject: Commander-List: Sunset
?Landies and Gentlemen:
?
I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my mind.
Today was my last day at American Airlines.? I decided to retire early at 58 for
many reasons.? Mostly after 31 years at American I want to do a different type
of flying and also if I worked past Nov 1 I would have taken a wack on my retirement.?
The engine part is that after 36 years and about 18000 hours in jets
I have never had an engine failure.? One time in a B52 we shut one down for
low oil pressure--WOW only 7 left, that is scary.
?
IF IT IS NOT BOEING I AM NOT GOING---unless it is a COMMANDER:-)))
?
dan
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Call me, 360-903-6901.=C2- jb
Can you sell rides in the AG CAT ?? I assume it is in experimental catagory.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com>
Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 2:41 pm
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
Can you sell rides in the AG CAT ?? I assume it is in experimental catagory.
I'm fighting with myself about going experimental with my 450 Stearman or g
oing to the
=C2-
=C2-expense of=C2- standard catagory. I would like a wide seat in the fr
ont also. Of course my 500 Commander is my favorite go somewhere airplane.
=C2-
Roland Gilliam
=C2-
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
It is on a "homebuilt" Grumman Ag-Cat.=C2- It is now a three place, open c
ockpit bi-plane, usually on floats but currently back on wheels.=C2- I lov
e the 1340,=C2- flew Ag for 15 years and have many thousands of hours behi
nd a 1340, geared 1340 and the 985.=C2- jb
What was that 985 hanging on
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert S. Randazzo <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 6:10 am
Subject: RE: Re: Commander-List:
JB-
=C2-
What was that 985 hanging on?
=C2-
I=99ve got a 1340 on the SNJ=C2- I=99d go look at fol
iage this weekend, but we=99re expecting a bit of a blower and the sag
e brush just turns from brownish green to brownish brown out here.=C2- :-p
=C2-
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
=C2-
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-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
=C2-
GREAT STUFF.=C2- I flew my P&W,=C2-R-985 last night looking at the fall
foliage, the start procedures is just like that!!!=C2- I could ad that eve
n the shut down is cool.=C2- Hold the brakes, don't point the prop blast a
t anything important.=C2- Advance the throttle to about 1500RPM=C2-and s
lowly move the mix to idle cut off.=C2- Then as the engine winds down,=C2
-close the throttle.=C2- This scavenges oil out of the sump, back to the
tank after the taxi.=C2- Not a bad idea in a Commander with geared engine
ether, they are "dry sump" just like a radial.=C2- jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 7:29 am
Subject: Commander-List:
You young kids have all missed the boat, round engines are the best.
Jim Addington
=C2-
=C2-
Subject: Engines - Rotary vs. Turbine
=C2-
Between A Radial Engine And A Jet Engine
Round engines are commonly known as Radial engines. The piston Jugs
are placed in a circle. Hence "Round" engines. Turbine engines are
known as Jet engines. We gotta get rid of those turbines, they're
ruining aviation and our hearing.
A turbine is too simple minded, it has no mystery. The air travels
through it in a straight line and doesn't pick up any of the pungent
fragrance of engine oil or pilot sweat. Anybody can start a turbine.
You just need to move a switch from "OFF" to "START" and then remember
to move it back to "ON" after a while. My PC is harder to start.
Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. You have to
seduce it into starting. It's like waking up a mistress On some
planes, the pilots aren't even allowed to do it. Turbines start by
whining for a while, then give a lady-like poof and start whining a
little louder.
Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click, BANG, more
rattles, another BANG, a big macho FART or two, more clicks, a lot
more smoke and finally a serious low pitched roar. We like that. It's
a GUY thing.
When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you can
concentrate on the flight ahead. Starting turbine is like flicking on
aceiling fan:
Useful, but, hardly exciting.
When you have started his round engine successfully your Crew Chief
looks up at you like he'd let you kiss his girl, too! Turbines don't
break or catch fire often enough, which leads to aircrew boredom,
complacency and inattention. A round engine at speed looks and sounds
like it's going to blow any minute. This helps concentrate the mind.
Turbines don't have enough control levers or gauges to keep a pilot's
attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during long flights.
Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman Lamps. Round
engines smell like God intended machines to smell.
Pass this on to an old WWII guy (or his son, or anyone who ever flew
them) in remembrance of the "Greatest Generation".
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will enjoy it.
Jim
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Farmer
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sunset
Landies and Gentlemen:
I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my
mind.
Today was my last day at American Airlines. I decided to retire early at 58
for many reasons. Mostly after 31 years at American I want to do a
different type of flying and also if I worked past Nov 1 I would have taken
a wack on my retirement. The engine part is that after 36 years and about
18000 hours in jets I have never had an engine failure. One time in a B52
we shut one down for low oil pressure--WOW only 7 left, that is scary.
IF IT IS NOT BOEING I AM NOT GOING---unless it is a COMMANDER:-)))
dan
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Dan-
Congratulations on achieving Controlled Flight into Retirement!
Many of our colleagues around the industry aren't so fortunate to make it to
a position where they can choose the retire or depart the industry on their
own terms.
We'll pull up another stool to the Voluntary Former Airline Pilots Fraternal
and Drinking Association.
Of course- since you mentioned wanting to do a "different type of flying"
you are now obligated to explain yourself. J
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
VFAPF&DA Member
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Farmer
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sunset
Landies and Gentlemen:
I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my
mind.
Today was my last day at American Airlines. I decided to retire early at 58
for many reasons. Mostly after 31 years at American I want to do a
different type of flying and also if I worked past Nov 1 I would have taken
a wack on my retirement. The engine part is that after 36 years and about
18000 hours in jets I have never had an engine failure. One time in a B52
we shut one down for low oil pressure--WOW only 7 left, that is scary.
IF IT IS NOT BOEING I AM NOT GOING---unless it is a COMMANDER:-)))
dan
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Totally envious, Dan. Totally. I'll have to grind till I drop.
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Farmer
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sunset
Landies and Gentlemen:
I was not going to mention this but all the talk about engines changed my
mind.
Today was my last day at American Airlines. I decided to retire early at 58
for many reasons. Mostly after 31 years at American I want to do a
different type of flying and also if I worked past Nov 1 I would have taken
a wack on my retirement. The engine part is that after 36 years and about
18000 hours in jets I have never had an engine failure. One time in a B52
we shut one down for low oil pressure--WOW only 7 left, that is scary.
IF IT IS NOT BOEING I AM NOT GOING---unless it is a COMMANDER:-)))
dan
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