---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/05/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:19 AM - List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:48 PM - Obama (Dan Farmer) 2. 08:02 PM - Re: Obama () 3. 08:26 PM - Re: Obama (John Vormbaum) 4. 09:03 PM - 680F cruise performance (willis robison) 5. 09:35 PM - Re: Obama (Tylor Hall) 6. 10:03 PM - Re: James Bond (nico css) 7. 11:05 PM - Re: Obama (yourtcfg@aol.com) 8. 11:09 PM - Re: James Bond (yourtcfg@aol.com) 9. 11:10 PM - Re: 680F cruise performance (yourtcfg@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:29 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: List Fund Raiser A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... 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The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:10 PM PST US From: Dan Farmer Subject: Commander-List: Obama Gentlemen and Ladies, - One more opinion and we have all heard about them.- As anyone who knows m e might guess--I did not vote for Obama.- However I think we should give him an opportunity to lead and hope that he can lead and deliver as he has promised.- I believe he will be as leftist as his record but I can hope t o be wrong.- - The Democrats and far left hated Bush and constantly belittled him from the first hanging chad.- From the beginning they acted and spoke in the most despicable terms.- That sank into the crap far deeper than I have ever s een in this country when speaking-of a sitting President.- I truly beli eve-they acted on the- verge of treason as to their actions on the Iraq war after voting for it.- I believe they did it all for their own selfis h benefit.- I also believe there actions and speak cost soldiers their li ves. - I do not think that anyone should be so rude and crude to Obama.- Let us see what is in store.- I hope for the sake of the nation that he can lead and deliver what is best for the nation.- I hope his idea and philosophy is to teach people to fish, not give them fish.- If throwing money at th e problem was or is the answer God knows we would have no national problems in this country.- - As to you people that think I am stupid, dumb or ignorant just because I be lieve in God, so did Einstein. Can your IQ-top that? - "If you are a conservative when you are 21 you have no heart, If you are a liberal when you are 40 you have no brain"- Winston Churchill. - dan farmer do not archive -=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:06 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Obama Dan, at the risk of venturing forward and being told I should not post this here.... you said that you believe in God. You might be interested in watching this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5585125669588896670 There is no religion in this, just pure science. Dean Kenyon, Michael Behe, etc... all very respected scientists have something to say about evolution. God bless, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: Commander-List: Obama Gentlemen and Ladies, One more opinion and we have all heard about them. As anyone who knows me might guess--I did not vote for Obama. However I think we should give him an opportunity to lead and hope that he can lead and deliver as he has promised. I believe he will be as leftist as his record but I can hope to be wrong. The Democrats and far left hated Bush and constantly belittled him from the first hanging chad. From the beginning they acted and spoke in the most despicable terms. That sank into the crap far deeper than I have ever seen in this country when speaking of a sitting President. I truly believe they acted on the verge of treason as to their actions on the Iraq war after voting for it. I believe they did it all for their own selfish benefit. I also believe there actions and speak cost soldiers their lives. I do not think that anyone should be so rude and crude to Obama. Let us see what is in store. I hope for the sake of the nation that he can lead and deliver what is best for the nation. I hope his idea and philosophy is to teach people to fish, not give them fish. If throwing money at the problem was or is the answer God knows we would have no national problems in this country. As to you people that think I am stupid, dumb or ignorant just because I believe in God, so did Einstein. Can your IQ top that? "If you are a conservative when you are 21 you have no heart, If you are a liberal when you are 40 you have no brain" Winston Churchill. dan farmer do not archive 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:03 PM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: Obama Unbelievable. I probably shouldn't be posting this, but I can't help myself. Andrew, if it has the phrase "Intelligent Design" in it, it has religion in it. Scientists didn't invent that phrase, churches did. Better yet, politically savvy church leaders did, as "Intelligent Design" sounds more scientific and less inflammatory than "Creationism", even though there isn't any science there. Pretty soon I'm sure we'll hear the argument about how dinosaurs & people were running around together 4,000 years ago. Or that the moon is only 6,000 years old. To me, "Intelligent Design" is a high-wing, 7-or-so seat light twin with a fantastic wing, benign handling characteristics and a stupendous useful load. On another note, Dan, your post was fantastic. I hope that the rest of the US is as mature as you are. You remind me of soldiers I know; whether they voted for the man or not, they all answer the same way: "He is my Commander-in-Chief and I will proudly perform my duties for him as ordered." I didn't vote for him but I'm more than willing to give him a chance to prove he's worthy of the position. Cheers, /John do not archive andrew.bridget@telus.net wrote: > Dan, at the risk of venturing forward and being told I should not post > this here.... you said that you believe in God. You might be > interested in watching this: > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5585125669588896670 > > There is no religion in this, just pure science. Dean Kenyon, Michael > Behe, etc... all very respected scientists have something to say about > evolution. > > God bless, > Andrew > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Dan Farmer > *To:* commander-list-digest@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:47 PM > *Subject:* Commander-List: Obama > > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > One more opinion and we have all heard about them. As anyone who > knows me might guess--I did not vote for Obama. However I think > we should give him an opportunity to lead and hope that he can > lead and deliver as he has promised. I believe he will be as > leftist as his record but I can hope to be wrong. > > The Democrats and far left hated Bush and constantly belittled him > from the first hanging chad. From the beginning they acted and > spoke in the most despicable terms. That sank into the crap far > deeper than I have ever seen in this country when speaking of a > sitting President. I truly believe they acted on the verge of > treason as to their actions on the Iraq war after voting for it. > I believe they did it all for their own selfish benefit. I also > believe there actions and speak cost soldiers their lives. > > I do not think that anyone should be so rude and crude to Obama. > Let us see what is in store. I hope for the sake of the nation > that he can lead and deliver what is best for the nation. I hope > his idea and philosophy is to teach people to fish, not give them > fish. If throwing money at the problem was or is the answer God > knows we would have no national problems in this country. > > As to you people that think I am stupid, dumb or ignorant just > because I believe in God, so did Einstein. Can your IQ top that? > > "If you are a conservative when you are 21 you have no heart, If > you are a liberal when you are 40 you have no brain" Winston > Churchill. > > dan farmer > do not archive > > > > * > > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List"'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com > 3D============================================ > * > > * > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:51 PM PST US From: willis robison Subject: Commander-List: 680F cruise performance Gentlemen, - Are there any active members that own a AC 680F?-- Im estimating a ferr y flight and need the best altitude/fuel burn and could really use your exp erience. - thanks. - wer - -=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:27 PM PST US From: Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: Obama Can we talk about twin commander stuff again? Willis, Yes there are several that fly the 680F and FP. I am sure Moe will post something. Dan, I meet your friend at COS Bus Park. The has a very nice 421. Said you stop by often. He has a very nice hangar and "DEN"? Fire place, leather chairs, wet bar. Real club house. We will get together next time. Tylor On Nov 5, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Dan Farmer wrote: > Gentlemen and Ladies, > > One more opinion and we have all heard about them. As anyone who > knows me might guess--I did not vote for Obama. However I think we > should give him an opportunity to lead and hope that he can lead and > deliver as he has promised. I believe he will be as leftist as his > record but I can hope to be wrong. > > The Democrats and far left hated Bush and constantly belittled him > from the first hanging chad. From the beginning they acted and > spoke in the most despicable terms. That sank into the crap far > deeper than I have ever seen in this country when speaking of a > sitting President. I truly believe they acted on the verge of > treason as to their actions on the Iraq war after voting for it. I > believe they did it all for their own selfish benefit. I also > believe there actions and speak cost soldiers their lives. > > I do not think that anyone should be so rude and crude to Obama. > Let us see what is in store. I hope for the sake of the nation that > he can lead and deliver what is best for the nation. I hope his > idea and philosophy is to teach people to fish, not give them fish. > If throwing money at the problem was or is the answer God knows we > would have no national problems in this country. > > As to you people that think I am stupid, dumb or ignorant just > because I believe in God, so did Einstein. Can your IQ top that? > > "If you are a conservative when you are 21 you have no heart, If you > are a liberal when you are 40 you have no brain" Winston Churchill. > > dan farmer > do not archive > > > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== > _- > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > = > 3D > ====================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:37 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: James Bond Has anyone seen the Commander in the James Bond movie trailer Quantum of Solace? It appears very briefly in the background of one of the scenes. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Obama From: yourtcfg@aol.com WOW, what a wonderful reaffirmation of the truths I already knew, thanks for sharing it.? jb -----Original Message----- From: andrew.bridget@telus.net Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 8:00 pm Subject: Re: Commander-List: Obama Dan, at the risk of venturing forward and being told I should not post this here.... you said that you believe in God. You might be interested in watching this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5585125669588896670? ? There is no religion in this, just pure science. Dean Kenyon, Michael Behe, etc... all very respected scientists have something to say about evolution. ? God bless, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: Commander-List: Obama Gentlemen and Ladies, ? One more opinion and we have all heard about them.? As anyone who knows me might guess--I did not vote for Obama.? However I think we should give him an opportunity to lead and hope that he can lead and deliver as he has promised.? I believe he will be as leftist as his record but I can hope to be wrong.? ? The Democrats and far left hated Bush and constantly belittled him from the first hanging chad.? From the beginning they acted and spoke in the most despicable terms.? That sank into the crap far deeper than I have ever seen in this country when speaking?of a sitting President.? I truly believe?they acted on the? verge of treason as to their actions on the Iraq war after voting for it.? I believe they did it all for their own selfish benefit.? I also believe there actions and speak cost soldiers their lives. ? I do not think that anyone should be so rude and crude to Obama.? Let us see what is in store.? I hope for the sake of the nation that he can lead and deliver what is best for the nation.? I hope his idea and philosophy is to teach people to fish, not give them fish.? If throwing money at the problem was or is the answer God knows we would have no national problems in this country.? ? As to you people that think I am stupid, dumb or ignorant just because I believe in God, so did Einstein. Can your IQ?top that? ? "If you are a conservative when you are 21 you have no heart, If you are a liberal when you are 40 you have no brain"? Winston Churchill. ? dan farmer do not archive ? 3D============================================= href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'http://www.matronics.com/contribution 3D============================================= href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List"'http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List 3D============================================= href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'http://forums.matronics.com 3D============================================= ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: James Bond From: yourtcfg@aol.com With winglets no less!!? jb Has anyone seen the Commander in the James Bond movie trailer Quantum of Solace? It appears very briefly in the background of one of the scenes. -----Original Message----- From: nico css Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:03 pm Subject: RE: Commander-List: James Bond Has anyone seen the Commander in the James Bond movie trailer Quantum of Solace? It appears very briefly in the background of one of the scenes. ? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: 680F cruise performance From: yourtcfg@aol.com Above 10K, 200kts @55GPH.? jb -----Original Message----- From: willis robison Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 8:58 pm Subject: Commander-List: 680F cruise performance Gentlemen, ? Are there any active members that own a AC 680F??? Im estimating a ferry flight and need the best altitude/fuel burn and could really use your experience. ? thanks. ? wer ? ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.