---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/12/08: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:20 AM - Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists (Matt Dralle) 1. 11:04 AM - Re: Flight Levels magazine - Fall 2008 issue (Peter Bichier) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:21 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:59 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Flight Levels magazine - Fall 2008 issue From: "Peter Bichier" OK, just looking at the published performances (Bert Berry's pamphlets, TCFG's): if (c) is true, how come it works for certain models and not others? the straight 560 for ex. has a shorter 50' take off (950') and landing (860') capabilities than the 560E Take off (1425') & landing (1500') or even comparing with the 560A (same fuselage lengh) which needs 1240' (Take off) & 1340' (landing)? so in this case, the 560A with shorter wings has shorter landing than its extended counter part (same applies for take off) however, the 680E did gain on shorter take off (1525' vs 1540 on the 680) but exactly same landing for both: 1625' as of the effect on speed: the 680 has a max speed of 230 mph instead of 225 for the 680E, so there it seems the extended wing has a detrimental effect on speed. [quote="drwer2"]Now,thats interesting. The effect of increasing the "washout" is to (a). move the center of lift inboard, (b.) decrease overall lift and (c) improve slow speed handling and stall characteristics.These are subtle changes. This change would not have a major effect onMTOW but would place the stress where the wing was stronger. I'd give anything to see any production drawings. Thanks again Barry for being our Nexus. Willis -------- 560 Dreamer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213776#213776 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.