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1. 08:12 AM - Re: fuel vent heat check (yourtcfg@aol.com)
2. 08:34 AM - Re: fuel vent heat check (John Vormbaum)
3. 09:47 AM - Commander engines available (Chris)
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent heat check |
IT WAS GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!? I did the annual on Jimmy's Commander then borrowed
it to fly Sue and I and two other couples to Culebra.? Flamenco beach is the
number two most beautiful beach in all the Caribbean and it really is.? We had
lunch in town at a little place called the Dingy Dock where you can literally
eat you hamburger in paradise while you soak your feet in the Caribbean.? There
were half a dozen 4,to 5, long Tarpon fish under the dock.? They are really
impressive fish and show bright silver when the sun shines on them.? I found
a good size male iguana to chase into the water.? We the shopped around town
a bit and headed for the beach.? There were a few "T" storms in the distance
and had the water a bit disturbed.? The normally calm beach had 4 to 5 foot breakers
and we had a total blast!!!? We spent two hours frolicking in the waves,
body surfing and enjoying the wonderfully, warm water.? There is an old abandoned
WW 2 tank on the next beach over and we walked
over to it.? We then flew back to Isle Grande airport in air conditioned, Commander
comfort and boarded the cruse ship the next day. A big thank you to TCFG
member Sergio Molina for rounding up his jacks and a mule for the retract test.?
Sergio operates a straight 500 on a 135?certificate and is a really nice guy.?
While the ship was leaving the port of St Lucia, we were all standing on
the deck and lo and behold, a 500B (short nose) entered the patter at the airport
and landed!!? way cool.? Jimmy is doing great,? We got a tour of his new home
in Old San Juan,? It is a truly amazing project.? It will be two years of
work when complete in the spring and worth every day.? I am sure you will?be able
to see it in an architectural magazine someday.? His wife and kids are well,
although his wife was suffering from some back pain.? On another note.? Saw
the 007 movie last night and there is a brief scene of a Commander , only in
the background.? Also, My bride was watching "Wife Sw
a
p" a couple of days ago and there was several really good shots of
Turbine, dash 10 in the story.? They episode was filmed in FL.? Sue and I are leaving
a a couple of hours to fly triple 2 to Idaho for "T" day.? Then back to
work delivering a 560E from Morris shop to FL.? jb
How was your Caribbean vacation? Give us the scoop! How's Jimmy doing?
-----Original Message-----
From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 8:31 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: fuel vent heat check
?
Jim,?
?
How was your Caribbean vacation? Give us the scoop! How's Jimmy doing??
?
/John?
?
yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:?
> HI KIDS. I might suggest that all of yall with vent heaters contact > John Towner.
He has an "approved into known icing", (which the fuel > vent heaters are
not) STCd fuel vent protector that installs in just a > few minutes, just in
front of the vent and eliminates the need for the > troublesome electric units.
jb?
>?
>?
> -----Original Message-----?
> From: Moe-rosspistons <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>?
> To: commander-list@matronics.com?
> Sent: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 7:39 am?
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: fuel vent heat check?
>?
> *Dan,*?
> ** > *Thanks for the advice! My fuel vent heaters spliced into the air > speed
indicator wires. Load shedding seems to be limited to pulling > the circuit
breaker or turning off the switch, except the stall > warning horn, and it is
hot wired.*?
> ** > *Moe*?
> *N680RR*?
> *Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award*?
> >?
> *From:* Dan Farmer <mailto:daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>?
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:05 AM?
> *To:* commander-list-digest@matronics.com > <mailto:commander-list-digest@matronics.com>?
> *Subject:* Commander-List: fuel vent heat check?
>?
> This is so easy. Turn on the master switch, turn on the pitot/fuel > vent heat
switch now take about 2 minutes then put your lips on the > vents like you were
to suck a straw. Be sure to do this before you > suck on the pitot tube. Otherwise
your lips will be burned so bad you > will never be able to feel the
slight warmth from the vent. If you > really do this you deserve what you get.
In all seriousness, my vents > are always quite warm to the touch in about 30
seconds after turning > on the heat switch. I seriously doubt that airframes
of this vintage > and size have load shedding. In the 1960's I don't think Boeing
or > Douglas was using auto load shedding. I think it was called a flight
> engineer. CHECK ESSENTIAL!!!?
> > dan f?
>?
>?
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent heat check |
Wow Jim, sounds like you had a great time! I bet you feel refreshed
after that. Poor guy, having to get back to "the grind" of flying
Commanders hither and yon.....
yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
> IT WAS GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!! I did the annual on Jimmy's Commander
> then borrowed it to fly Sue and I and two other couples to Culebra.
> Flamenco beach is the number two most beautiful beach in all the
> Caribbean and it really is. We had lunch in town at a little place
> called the Dingy Dock where you can literally eat you hamburger in
> paradise while you soak your feet in the Caribbean. There were half a
> dozen 4,to 5, long Tarpon fish under the dock. They are really
> impressive fish and show bright silver when the sun shines on them. I
> found a good size male iguana to chase into the water. We the shopped
> around town a bit and headed for the beach. There were a few "T"
> storms in the distance and had the water a bit disturbed. The
> normally calm beach had 4 to 5 foot breakers and we had a total
> blast!!! We spent two hours frolicking in the waves, body surfing and
> enjoying the wonderfully, warm water. There is an o ld abandoned WW 2
> tank on the next beach over and we walked over to it. We then flew
> back to Isle Grande airport in air conditioned, Commander comfort and
> boarded the cruse ship the next day. A big thank you to TCFG member
> Sergio Molina for rounding up his jacks and a mule for the retract
> test. Sergio operates a straight 500 on a 135 certificate and is a
> really nice guy. While the ship was leaving the port of St Lucia, we
> were all standing on the deck and lo and behold, a 500B (short nose)
> entered the patter at the airport and landed!! way cool. Jimmy is
> doing great, We got a tour of his new home in Old San Juan, It is a
> truly amazing project. It will be two years of work when complete in
> the spring and worth every day. I am sure you will be able to see it
> in an architectural magazine someday. His wife and kids are well,
> although his wife was suffering from some back pain. On another
> note. Saw t he 007 movie last night and there is a brief scene of a
> Commander , only in the background. Also, My bride was watching "Wife
> Swap" a couple of days ago and there was several really good shots of
> Turbine, dash 10 in the story. They episode was filmed in FL. Sue
> and I are leaving a a couple of hours to fly triple 2 to Idaho for "T"
> day. Then back to work delivering a 560E from Morris shop to FL. jb
>
> How was your Caribbean vacation? Give us the scoop! How's Jimmy doing?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 8:31 am
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: fuel vent heat check
>
> <mailto:john@vormbaum.com>>
>
> Jim,
>
> How was your Caribbean vacation? Give us the scoop! How's Jimmy doing?
>
> /John
>
> yourtcfg@aol.com <mailto:yourtcfg@aol.com> wrote:
> > HI KIDS. I might suggest that all of yall with vent heaters contact
> > John Towner. He has an "approved into known icing", (which the fuel
> > vent heaters are not) STCd fuel vent protector that installs in just
> a > few minutes, just in front of the vent and eliminates the need for
> the > troublesome electric units. jb
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Moe-rosspistons <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com
> <mailto:moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>>
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com <mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 7:39 am
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: fuel vent heat check
> >
> > *Dan,*
> > ** > *Thanks for the advice! My fuel vent heaters spliced into the
> air > speed indicator wires. Load shedding seems to be limited to
> pulling > the circuit breaker or turning off the switch, except the
> stall > warning horn, and it is hot wired.*
> > ** > *Moe*
> > *N680RR*
> > *Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award*
> > >
> > *From:* Dan Farmer <mailto:daniellfarmer@yahoo.com
> <mailto:daniellfarmer@yahoo.com?>>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:05 AM
> > *To:* commander-list-digest@matronics.com
> <mailto:commander-list-digest@matronics.com> >
> <mailto:commander-list-digest@matronics.com
> <mailto:commander-list-digest@matronics.com?>>
> > *Subject:* Commander-List: fuel vent heat check
> >
> > This is so easy. Turn on the master switch, turn on the pitot/fuel >
> vent heat switch now take about 2 minutes then put your lips on the >
> vents like you were to suck a straw. Be sure to do this before you >
> suck on the pitot tube. Otherwise your lips will be burned so bad you
> > will never be able to feel the slight warmth from the vent. If you >
> really do this you deserve what you get. In all seriousness, my vents
> > are always quite warm to the touch in about 30 seconds after turning
> > on the heat switch. I seriously doubt that airframes of this vintage
> > and size have load shedding. In the 1960's I don't think Boeing or >
> Douglas was using auto load shedding. I think it was called a flight >
> engineer. CHECK ESSENTIAL!!!
> > > dan f
> >
> >
> > *
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| Subject: | Commander engines available |
FYI to any MrRPM owners. A friend of mine has a pair of good IO-720's
for sale. They are the model used on the MRRPM conversions. These are
a fairly rare upstack engine, so they would be a darn good thing to have
on hand if you have them on your airplane.
Contact me off-list if you want more info.
Chris
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