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Subject: | My belated Thanksgiving |
Folks,
I have not publicly stated my appreciation for all the blessings that we
receive in this country this year; perhaps for no good reason. I received
this piece from a friend and tennis buddy who mentioned that he thought I'd
appreciate it. He was right. It also prompted me to say something publicly
about it; even if it took a Frog (intended endearingly) to opine about it.
Many years ago, it must have been during the Carter years, before we had the
privilege of living here and getting to know the people that make up the
core of this nation, the American soldier was considered a weakling, a
maggot-infested, brainless, and doped coward with a loud mouth and no
backbone. It was an unjust image created, or allowed at least, by the
leadership over here that seems to have done everything to undermine their
morale and their image. Back then - once in a while casual conversation
would drift across the U.S. and its involvement in world affairs - the
failed rescue attempt of the Iran-hostages was dominating the international
news scene and the humiliation, hot on the heels of the Vietnam War, was the
lay-observer's only source to cement the image of the U.S. warrior. How sad.
I read the article below and realized, whether fact or fiction, the core of
those band of brothers (no sexism intended) who keep democracy and liberty
alive throughout the world was made up of people as described in this essay.
They are the people who are totally consumed by the calling at hand. They
are the people whom the enemy fears to the core. They are the people whom we
oftentimes overlook in our prayers and support. When they act, after only a
split-second of consideration, we sometimes condone people, whom we elected
to their offices, to subject them to the forensic and sterile scrutiny of
the law, sometimes stretching over months of analysis and psychological
evaluations by ring-heads armed with PhDs, to see if they were worthy of
being an American Soldier. In that attack many of them stand bravely, with
hardly any defense against such an onslaught; not because of the severity of
it but because from where and whom it comes. One of the pillars of strength
of these brave warriors is family and homeland and to endure bitter
onslaughts, which sometimes rival that of the enemy outside in their
severity and injury, must be unimaginably destructive.
That is why I want to give thanks to those men and women who are how this
article depicts them. Who are more focused, as a way of life, than a top
sportsman. Those brave warriors, better men than I, keep killer-threats out
of our homeland, so that I may sit down with friends and family and
celebrate Thanksgiving without concern for our safety. For their sakes I
write tonight.
On New Year's Eve, I plan to resolve that I will plead their case more
audibly and more intensely to minimize the assaults from within. I have no
doubt that they have the upper hand on those from the outside.
Nico
Subject: A NOS FRERES D'ARMES AMERICAINS
All,
A lot of people discount the French Army. I can tell you from personal
observation of them when I was in Afghanistan, the troops were motivated and
skilled, especially the one's with the patch that said "Lgion trangre".
Any problem they had was a matter of national will.
Here is an essay I copied from another site. I found it especially
appropriate for Thanksgiving. My rough translation of the title - "Our
American Brothers in Arms".
To all of you who are down-range, keep the faith.
Sincerely,
Jim Potts
Here is the original French article cab be read in French at URL:
http://omlt3-kdk3.over-blog.com/article-22935665.html
Here is (a) translation :
//// START ////
"We have shared our daily life with two US units for quite a while - they
are the first and fourth companies of a prestigious infantry battalion whose
name I will withhold for the sake of military secrecy. To the common man it
is a unit just like any other. But we live with them and got to know them,
and we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most
renowned units of the US Army - one that the movies brought to the public as
series showing "ordinary soldiers thrust into extraordinary events". Who are
they, those soldiers from abroad, how is their daily life, and what support
do they bring to the men of our OMLT every day? Few of them belong to the
Easy Company, the one the TV series focuses on. This one nowadays is named
Echo Company, and it has become the support company.
They have a terribly strong American accent - from our point of view the
language they speak is not even English. How many times did I have to write
down what I wanted to say rather than waste precious minutes trying various
pronunciations of a seemingly common word? Whatever state they are from, no
two accents are alike and they even admit that in some crisis situations
they have difficulties understanding each other.
Heavily built, fed at the earliest age with Gatorade, proteins and creatine
- they are all heads and shoulders taller than us and their muscles remind
us of Rambo. Our frames are amusingly skinny to them - we are wimps, even
the strongest of us - and because of that they often mistake us for Afghans.
Here we discover America as it is often depicted : their values are taken to
their paroxysm, often amplified by promiscuity lack of privacy and the
loneliness of this outpost in the middle of that Afghan valley. Honor,
motherland - everything here reminds of that : the American flag floating in
the wind above the outpost, just like the one on the post parcels. Even if
recruits often originate from the hearth of American cities and gang
territory, no one here has any goal other than to hold high and proud the
star spangled banner. Each man knows he can count on the support of a whole
people who provides them through the mail all that an American could miss in
such a remote front-line location : books, chewing gums, razorblades,
Gatorade, toothpaste etc. in such way that every man is aware of how much
the American people backs him in his difficult mission. And that is a first
shock to our preconceptions : the American soldier is no individualist. The
team, the group, the combat team are the focus of all his attention.
And they are impressive warriors! We have not come across bad ones, as
strange at it may seem to you when you know how critical French people can
be. Even if some of them are a bit on the heavy side, all of them provide us
everyday with lessons in infantry know-how. Beyond the wearing of a combat
kit that never seem to discomfort them (helmet strap, helmet, combat
goggles, rifles etc.) the long hours of watch at the outpost never seem to
annoy them in the slightest. On the one square meter wooden tower above the
perimeter wall they stand the five consecutive hours in full battle rattle
and night vision goggles on top, their sight unmoving in the directions of
likely danger. No distractions, no pauses, they are like statues nights and
days. At night, all movements are performed in the dark - only a handful of
subdued red lights indicate the occasional presence of a soldier on the
move. Same with the vehicles whose lights are covered - everything happens
in pitch dark even filling the fuel tanks with the Japy (JP-8) pump.
And combat? If you have seen Rambo you have seen it all - always coming to
the rescue when one of our teams gets in trouble, and always in the shortest
delay. That is one of their tricks : they switch from T-shirt and sandals to
combat ready in three minutes. Arriving in contact with the enemy, the way
they fight is simple and disconcerting : they just charge! They disembark
and assault in stride, they bomb first and ask questions later - which cuts
any pussyfooting short.
We seldom hear any harsh word, and from 5 AM onwards the camp chores are
performed in beautiful order and always with excellent spirit. A passing
American helicopter stops near a stranded vehicle just to check that
everything is alright; an American combat team will rush to support ours
before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been
given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to
those who liberated France and Europe.
To those who bestow us with the honor of sharing their combat outposts and
who everyday give proof of their military excellence, to those who pay the
daily tribute of America's army's deployment on Afghan soil, to those we
owned this article, ourselves hoping that we will always remain worthy of
them and to always continue hearing them say that we are all the same band
of brothers".
//// END ////
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Subject: | Re: My belated Thanksgiving |
AND AMEN.=C2-=C2- jb
-----Original Message-----
From: nico css <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Sent: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 6:23 pm
Subject: Commander-List: My belated Thanksgiving
Folks,
I have not publicly stated my appreciation for all the blessings that we
eceive in this country this year; perhaps for no good reason. I received
his piece from a friend and tennis buddy who mentioned that he thought I'd
ppreciate it. He was right. It also prompted me to say something publicly
bout it; even if it took a Frog (intended endearingly) to opine about it.
Many years ago, it must have been during the Carter years, before we had the
rivilege of living here and getting to know the people that make up the
ore of this nation, the American soldier was considered a weakling, a
aggot-infested, brainless, and doped coward with a loud mouth and no
ackbone. It was an unjust image created, or allowed at least, by the
eadership over here that seems to have done everything to undermine their
orale and their image. Back then - once in a while casual conversation
ould drift across the U.S. and its involvement in world affairs - the
ailed rescue attempt of the Iran-hostages was dominating the international
ews scene and the humiliation, hot on the heels of the Vietnam War, was the
ay-observer's only source to cement the image of the U.S. warrior. How sad.
read the article below and realized, whether f
act or fiction, the core of
hose band of brothers (no sexism intended) who keep democracy and liberty
live throughout the world was made up of people as described in this essay.
hey are the people who are totally consumed by the calling at hand. They
re the people whom the enemy fears to the core. They are the people whom we
ftentimes overlook in our prayers and support. When they act, after only a
plit-second of consideration, we sometimes condone people, whom we elected
o their offices, to subject them to the forensic and sterile scrutiny of
he law, sometimes stretching over months of analysis and psychological
valuations by ring-heads armed with PhD=99s, to see if they were worth
y of
eing an American Soldier. In that attack many of them stand bravely, with
ardly any defense against such an onslaught; not because of the severity of
t but because from where and whom it comes. One of the pillars of strength
f these brave warriors is family and homeland and to endure bitter
nslaughts, which sometimes rival that of the enemy outside in their
everity and injury, must be unimaginably destructive.
That is why I want to give thanks to those men and women who are how this
rticle depicts them. Who are more focused, as a way of life, than a top
portsman. Those brave warriors, better men than I, keep killer-threats out
f our homeland, so that I may sit down with friends and family and
elebrate Thanksgiving without concern for our safety. For their sakes I
rite tonight.
On New Year's Eve, I=2
0plan to resolve that I will plead their case more
udibly and more intensely to minimize the assaults from within. I have no
oubt that they have the upper hand on those from the outside.
Nico
ubject: A NOS FRERES D'ARMES AMERICAINS
All,
A lot of people discount the French Army. I can tell you from personal
bservation of them when I was in Afghanistan, the troops were motivated and
killed, especially the one's with the patch that said "L=C3=A9gion =C3=A9tra
ng=C3=A8re".
ny problem they had was a matter of national will.
Here is an essay I copied from another site. I found it especially
ppropriate for Thanksgiving. My rough translation of the title - "Our
merican Brothers in Arms".
To all of you who are down-range, keep the faith.
Sincerely,
Jim Potts
Here is the original French article cab be read in French at URL:
http://omlt3-kdk3.over-blog.com/article-22935665.html
Here is (a) translation :
//// START ////
"We have shared our daily life with two US units for quite a while - they
re the first and fourth companies of a prestigious infantry battalion whose
ame I will withhold for the sake of military secrecy. To the common man it
s a unit just like any other. But we live with them and got to know them,
nd we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most
enowned units of the US Army - one that the movies brought to the public as
eries showing "ordinary soldiers thrust into extraordinary events". Who are
hey, those soldiers from abroad, how is their daily l
ife, and what support
o they bring to the men of our OMLT every day? Few of them belong to the
asy Company, the one the TV series focuses on. This one nowadays is named
cho Company, and it has become the support company.
They have a terribly strong American accent - from our point of view the
anguage they speak is not even English. How many times did I have to write
own what I wanted to say rather than waste precious minutes trying various
ronunciations of a seemingly common word? Whatever state they are from, no
wo accents are alike and they even admit that in some crisis situations
hey have difficulties understanding each other.
Heavily built, fed at the earliest age with Gatorade, proteins and creatine
they are all heads and shoulders taller than us and their muscles remind
s of Rambo. Our frames are amusingly skinny to them - we are wimps, even
he strongest of us - and because of that they often mistake us for Afghans.
Here we discover America as it is often depicted : their values are taken to
heir paroxysm, often amplified by promiscuity lack of privacy and the
oneliness of this outpost in the middle of that Afghan valley. Honor,
otherland - everything here reminds of that : the American flag floating in
he wind above the outpost, just like the one on the post parcels. Even if
ecruits often originate from the hearth of American cities and gang
erritory, no one here has any goal other than to hold high and proud the
tar spangled banner. Each man knows he can count on=2
0the support of a whole
eople who provides them through the mail all that an American could miss in
uch a remote front-line location : books, chewing gums, razorblades,
atorade, toothpaste etc. in such way that every man is aware of how much
he American people backs him in his difficult mission. And that is a first
hock to our preconceptions : the American soldier is no individualist. The
eam, the group, the combat team are the focus of all his attention.
And they are impressive warriors! We have not come across bad ones, as
trange at it may seem to you when you know how critical French people can
e. Even if some of them are a bit on the heavy side, all of them provide us
veryday with lessons in infantry know-how. Beyond the wearing of a combat
it that never seem to discomfort them (helmet strap, helmet, combat
oggles, rifles etc.) the long hours of watch at the outpost never seem to
nnoy them in the slightest. On the one square meter wooden tower above the
erimeter wall they stand the five consecutive hours in full battle rattle
nd night vision goggles on top, their sight unmoving in the directions of
ikely danger. No distractions, no pauses, they are like statues nights and
ays. At night, all movements are performed in the dark - only a handful of
ubdued red lights indicate the occasional presence of a soldier on the
ove. Same with the vehicles whose lights are covered - everything happens
n pitch dark even filling the fuel tanks with the Japy (JP-8) pump.
And combat? If you h
ave seen Rambo you have seen it all - always coming to
he rescue when one of our teams gets in trouble, and always in the shortest
elay. That is one of their tricks : they switch from T-shirt and sandals to
ombat ready in three minutes. Arriving in contact with the enemy, the way
hey fight is simple and disconcerting : they just charge! They disembark
nd assault in stride, they bomb first and ask questions later - which cuts
ny pussyfooting short.
We seldom hear any harsh word, and from 5 AM onwards the camp chores are
erformed in beautiful order and always with excellent spirit. A passing
merican helicopter stops near a stranded vehicle just to check that
verything is alright; an American combat team will rush to support ours
efore even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been
iven to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to
hose who liberated France and Europe.
To those who bestow us with the honor of sharing their combat outposts and
ho everyday give proof of their military excellence, to those who pay the
aily tribute of America's army's deployment on Afghan soil, to those we
wned this article, ourselves hoping that we will always remain worthy of
hem and to always continue hearing them say that we are all the same band
f brothers".
//// END ////
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HI KIDS.
I just got back from a couple of nice flights in "triple 2, Jim & Sue"(our 680E).?
Left Tuesday from 1W1, Camas Washington,?(the home drome) to S67 Nampa Idaho,
my home town.? Sue and I and our two terriers, Pratt & Whitney, left about
noon.? Climbed to 9.5 and set the power at 30.-X2500 for a true A/S of about
177 kts.? Ground speed was 179-181.? Nice flight, clear and a million, smoooooothe
air.? Took 1:32.?? Came back today at 6.5, then 10.5, then down to 4.5.?
I set a record of the lowest sustained ground speed ever at cruse power!!!!? 32kts@10.5,
32X2550.? Was cruising about as fast a a Cherokee and burning about
the same fuel as a DC-3!!? Bouncy, touch a cloud and you got instant ice.? We
stayed VFR and came up the Columbia River gorge at 2.5.? Very rough.? I set 22.5X2550
for an A/S of only 135 indicated for the turbulence.? GS 109kts.? Landed
at home in the rain.? All in all a good trip, but The going was sure better
than the coming!!? It takes about 7.5 hours to driv
e the same trip, so it was still a good thing.? Hope everybody had a great "T"
day,?remembering that the pilgrims were celebrating and thanking GOD for their
blessings.? jb
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