---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/31/08: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:27 AM - HAPPY NEW YEAR (Dan Farmer) 2. 08:46 AM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (Deneal Schilmeister (MacbookPro)) 3. 08:49 AM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (dongirod) 4. 09:40 AM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (Jim Addington) 5. 10:02 AM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (nico css) 6. 11:02 AM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (dongirod) 7. 11:23 AM - NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (yourtcfg@aol.com) 8. 11:44 AM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (Nick Martin) 9. 12:03 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (Steve at Col-East) 10. 12:38 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (Robert Feldtman) 11. 12:57 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (nico css) 12. 01:48 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (Tom Fisher) 13. 03:13 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (Jim Addington) 14. 04:35 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (Russell Legg) 15. 05:01 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (John Vormbaum) 16. 05:07 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (Russell Legg) 17. 05:16 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (nico css) 18. 07:17 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (yourtcfg@aol.com) 19. 07:21 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (Robert Feldtman) 20. 07:21 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (yourtcfg@aol.com) 21. 07:46 PM - Re: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT (John Vormbaum) 22. 07:46 PM - Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:10 AM PST US From: Dan Farmer Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!- Only 20 more days unt il utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs , all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our am bitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. - That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants.- Please someone just take care o f me.- There Ive said it.- Yes I am pissed that we are running towards - European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df do not archive =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR From: "Deneal Schilmeister (MacbookPro)" On 12/31/08 10:26 AM, "Dan Farmer" wrote: > > Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days unt il > utopia. > The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our nee ds, > all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our > ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That see ms > what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care of me. > There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European > Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self > sufficiency. > > God Help us from ourselves. > df > > do not archive > > Dan: Thanks for your vast knowledge in this matter. I know many people who voted for Obama who are hard working and have executive jobs as well as some voters working blue collar jobs. It is good to know that everyone who voted Republican are hard workers and Democratic voters are lazy citizens. Thanks for the enlightenment. I=B9m very thankful this holiday season to know you are all-knowing and have everything under control for all of us. I don=B9t know how I could have been so mistaken. Oh yes and I thought it wa s socialist the the Republican president is allowing the government to own preferred stock in private banks... Oops I guess now they are quasi privat e quasi government banks. -- Deneal Schilmeister, ATP Learjet ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:27 AM PST US From: "dongirod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR I BELIEVE THIS FALL UNDER, "THIS TO SHALL PASS" ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days until utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care of me. There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df do not archive 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:53 AM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Dan, do I ever agree. I would like to go back to the 50's when crooks were crooks and victims were the good guys. This country was founded on if you don't work you don't eat. Jim A Do not archive _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Farmer Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days until utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care of me. There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:08 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR A very prosperous and blessed New Year to you all. Nico ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:27 AM PST US From: "dongirod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEARGentlemen; I fail to see any reason to go from an opinion, and that is how I view Dan's comments to a personal attack on an individual. Please, we gain nothing! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Deneal Schilmeister (MacbookPro) To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR On 12/31/08 10:26 AM, "Dan Farmer" wrote: Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days until utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care of me. There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df do not archive Dan: Thanks for your vast knowledge in this matter. I know many people who voted for Obama who are hard working and have executive jobs as well as some voters working blue collar jobs. It is good to know that everyone who voted Republican are hard workers and Democratic voters are lazy citizens. Thanks for the enlightenment. I'm very thankful this holiday season to know you are all-knowing and have everything under control for all of us. I don't know how I could have been so mistaken. Oh yes and I thought it was socialist the the Republican president is allowing the government to own preferred stock in private banks... Oops I guess now they are quasi private quasi government banks. -- Deneal Schilmeister, ATP Learjet ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:53 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT From: yourtcfg@aol.com HI KIDS.. I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, Stockton CA (SCK)?to Hollywood FL, (HWO).? This is the same Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer.? That was a long day as well.? I did the entire trip in one day.? I departed the Portland Or (PDX)?airport on Alaska Airline early that morning.? Flew to Anchorage (ANC).? Took a cab to Merrill Field, the GA airport?serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip.? After a preflight, I flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel.? Then, non stop to Kechican AK.? Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across Canada,?to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight.? I slept in my own bed that same?night. Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 then "drifted up"?to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range.? Back down to 13.5Stayed just?South of Tonnapa (sp)?NV to keep clear of all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??)? Flew to Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month,?oops).? Landed at dusk.? Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi?(JAN) 4hr 45min.? Landed at midnight and spent? the night.? I love?flying at night. When? was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night and I miss it.? I dont get enough night time these days.? I?departed?Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark?and made a climbing right turn back over the airport and on course.? I was at 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace.? Climbed to 11.5 and easily cleared the mountain range east of ABQ.? Then, just a little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp)?clearly in view to the so uth.? Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX.? I was?40 or so miles north but the urban sprawl was amazing.? i like to use a flashlight to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, gear droop etc.? No need here.? The lights from the city below illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see.? Next came Shreveport? and then on the Jackson.? I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground.??The tower closed at midnight but the airport was well lit.? To well.? The high intensity lights were almost blinding on flair. The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO.? The old geared engine ran smooth as butter.? Caught an afternoon flight back and was home by 10pm.? just another day at the office!!? Hope everyone has a wonderful new year!!? jb?? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:13 AM PST US From: "Nick Martin" Subject: RE: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT Great read,,thank you and Happy New Yr _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT HI KIDS.. I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, Stockton CA (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was a long day as well. I did the entire trip in one day. I departed the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airline early that morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Field, the GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non stop to Kechican AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight. I slept in my own bed that same night. Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 then "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back down to 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oops). Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. I departed Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the south. Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city below illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and then on the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at midnight but the airport was well lit. To well. The high intensity lights were almost blinding on flair. The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared engine ran smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and was home by 10pm. just another day at the office!! Hope everyone has a wonderful new year!! jb _____ Get a free MP3 every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8:44 AM ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:35 PM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR What a nice holiday wish! What a surprise, the perpetually angry white wealthy guys don't think anything is wrong except with everyone else. It must feel very good to know you're always right about everything, don't make mistakes, and that you hate all the right people. You're the only people who work hard, love their Country and love their Constitution. And God is behind only you. Anyone disagreeing with you is feared, hated, despised as a traitor, or insane. You guys need fear and hate..... Use it, or my gosh.... you might have to bear responsibility and actually have to work with people for solutions. Much easier to blame everything on the gays, or the blacks, or the jews, the democrats, the socialists, the commies..... Seems like we might need to tweak gument a little. Some things didn't work out so good. Though I spose if your main concern is putting gas into your twin-engined aircraft, everything probably looks just fine. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days until utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care of me. There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:14 PM PST US From: "Robert Feldtman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT Actullay in Texas we call it Lubbock! Wish I could make a nice flight like this and sell our Commander 500B to someone! They are great to fly! Night or day for me. bobf On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM, wrote: > HI KIDS.. > I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, Stockton CA > (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same Commander I brought down > from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was a long day as well. I did the > entire trip in one day. I departed the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska > Airline early that morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill > Field, the GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a > Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I flew the > Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non stop to Kechican > AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across Canada, to my home near > Portland, arriving just before midnight. I slept in my own bed that > same night. > Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 then > "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back down to > 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of all the restricted > airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to Double Eagle airport in > Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is BRAND NEW control tower there, only > open about a month, oops). Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson > Mississippi (JAN) 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I > love flying at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a > night and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. > I departed Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a > climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at 9500 feet > and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 and easily cleared > the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a little south of Amarillo TX > with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the south. Next was the metropolis of > Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i > like to use a flashlight to look at the engine nacelles at night checking > for oil leaks, gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city > below illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was truly > awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and then on the > Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit of a tail wind, > 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at midnight but the airport > was well lit. To well. The high intensity lights were almost blinding on > flair. > The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared engine ran > smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and was home by 10pm. > just another day at the office!! Hope everyone has a wonderful new year!! > jb > ------------------------------ > Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now. > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:04 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR I'd like to chime in, politely, since many people are bent on this. Obama is now our president. I'll respect him for that. I believe the job molds the man, too. Some of his campaign rhetoric was just plain stupid and shame on the people for allowing any politician to dupe them in that manner. It's as if the people are clicking into idiot-mode when they listen to political campaign speeches. But there is nothing anyone can do about it now. Obama is our president and there is hope, too: Hope that the job will mold the man and that the ignorance he displayed during his campaign will be replaced by hard-core reality. He is already flip-flopping to the reality side on issues that will definitely irritate those who voted for him on socialist issues. He is already rethinking tax increases in this economy (which begs the question, if tax increases are bad in a bad economy, why would it be good in a good economy), he is already showing a hard stance on the Palestinian issue as opposed to his ignorant utterances on Georgia, and so on. So, I see positive moves and I route for him to make more such moves and not remain stuck on his positions expressed during the campaign. It is us who are in the accuser's box for allowing politicians to move all over the political spectrum buying in to that nonsense. But the process is what it is and it wasn't first tried here in the U.S. Even in Roman times 2,000 years ago people complained about the same things we do today. So, it's been around for a while. It is, however, healthy to analyze, self-audit and consider where we stand in terms of the manner in which we practice our politics and make corrections if we are found to be at fault. For instance, during Bush 43's term, hatred, wicked lies, and vile rhetoric did more damage to the country than anything the president ever did. The practitioners of these despicable acts acted without regard for this nation and they were ready to inflict damage beyond any measure. When the war, for which these same adulterers of the truth voted, turned difficult, as wars oftentimes do, the personal trade in misinformation and vitriol escalated beyond belief. What would have been the correct and less costly (in terms of dollars and lives) response? I believe it was Trent Lott (could be wrong about the name but it was a Republican senator) that said, "We are not going to criticize a sitting president in time of war" after Bill Clinton launched a war, far less justified than Iraq, for dubious reasons and fiercely criticized by Republicans. That was the right and mature thing to do when one has this nation's best interests at heart and consider the office of the president above one's own interests. Bush is now bending over backwards to mitigate the damage of a failing economy (a disaster which the operators of Obama's party created) for the new president and make his transition to power as smoothly as possible for the sake of the nation, not particularly for Obama the individual nor the Democratic Party. Compare that to Bill Clinton and his cronies who tried to cause as much damage as they could to make it as difficult as possible for Bush to transit to power. The petty crime of stealing all the W-keys off the keyboards was rather humorous, but it was an illustration of a much deeper resentment for this nation than what the deed demonstrated. We should not believe for a moment their attacks were against G.W. personally. It was and still is against this nation and its institutions. And that would cause emotions to flare up but we should refrain from becoming like them. My position has always been, honest and necessary opposition excluded, their acts and philosophy are anti-American and foreign to our culture, much like pathogens that consist of healthy tissue in their own right but they are lethal to the host in their purpose. We should also learn who we are opposing here. Many good, patriotic and loyal citizens are demagogued because they are Democrats, and we're wasting energy and resources that ought to be directed at the pathogens of our society -- those who wouldn't think twice to destroy the principles on which this unique and excellent nation was built. This cancer that already left Europe incapacitated, on life-support and in intensive care is already evident here. Two decades or so ago one could have made a case that the Democratic Party provided a safe haven for those pathogens, but that is not the case at all today; it is as rife and perhaps more dangerous in the Republican Party than anywhere else because we wouldn't expect to receive siren-songs from that corner. In my opinion that was more of a cause why so many conservatives voted for Obama than anything else. Even though he had nothing but rhetoric, he was basically an empty suit, but what he didn't have was what made him a more palatable choice than the Republican candidate, who was chosen by our opponents. Unfortunately, it will take a revolution in the Democratic and Republican parties for the new president to be fully molded to reality and that is where the rub lies. Will Obama be a realist and buck the objectives of the pathogens in his party? Will the Republicans have the courage to rid itself of the pathogens in its system? We have no choice but to wait and see. The captain will board the ship on the 20th of next month and he will set sail as he sees fit. We should not chop holes in the ship if we don't like him, like the pathogens did to Captain Bush. The Christian's position is that all authority is given by Christ as revealed in the Bible alone, not the Quran, or the Kama Sutra or some hieroglyphic stone-inscription. Unbelievers ought not to get all bent out of shape because of this, it is what the Christian doctrine teaches and you don't have to believe it to acknowledge it. If Obama is president because of the will of Christ, then we should show him the respect of the office he holds for the sake of Christ who put him there. It is, then, also unavoidable to conclude that there is a purpose for which Obama has been raised up to be our leader at this time. We cannot fully know what that purpose is, but we can certainly, respectfully, speculate. Perhaps the Democratic and Republican parties have to be split wide open separating the pathogens from the healthy tissue of our nation, much like a surgeon would cut cancerous cells away from healthy tissue to save the patient. I firmly believe that God retracted, for a time, the effective presence of the Holy Spirit from us as a nation, which allowed evil to do what it naturally does, flourishing wildly, resulting in the attack on 9/11 to come over us (speculating:) to reveal the evil among us as it became evident in the aftermath; (speculating:) to split the Muslims into two camps, those who are still functioning in a 7th century culture and those that tasted liberty, in the U.S.; (speculating:) to bring reality to those nations that would have supported terrorism believing it's politically correct to do so; (speculating:) to bring the issue of evil among us to the public forum. I don't believe that Obama has been called to inflict so much damage on our nation that there will be a second civil war required to heal our nation. There are too many believers that will be consumed in the process if we consider Abraham's petition before God regarding Sodom. Neither do I believe that Obama will be so far off reality that he will not diligently protect our nation, in the mold of President Bush, from terrorist attacks on home-soil. (There are already moves afoot to maintain the surveillance program that had the pathogens so up in arms when Bush practiced it.) What is certain, is that the next two- and four-year periods will be deciding watersheds for our nation, given to heal us; we should act accordingly, and decisively, without fear, but always honorably. If the surgeon hesitates, the patient is lost. That is my New Year's message to you all. Thank you all for being aviators, lovers of all things nautical and of the atmosphere which carries us aloft at great speeds with vistas unimaginable a mere century before. Thank you for being lovers of Aero Commanders, great ships that brought pleasure to so many. May God bless you all. Nico ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:37 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEARI second that opinion, keep the emotions in check! Tom C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: dongirod To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Gentlemen; I fail to see any reason to go from an opinion, and that is how I view Dan's comments to a personal attack on an individual. Please, we gain nothing! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Deneal Schilmeister (MacbookPro) To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR On 12/31/08 10:26 AM, "Dan Farmer" wrote: Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days until utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care of me. There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df do not archive Dan: Thanks for your vast knowledge in this matter. I know many people who voted for Obama who are hard working and have executive jobs as well as some voters working blue collar jobs. It is good to know that everyone who voted Republican are hard workers and Democratic voters are lazy citizens. Thanks for the enlightenment. I'm very thankful this holiday season to know you are all-knowing and have everything under control for all of us. I don't know how I could have been so mistaken. Oh yes and I thought it was socialist the the Republican president is allowing the government to own preferred stock in private banks... Oops I guess now they are quasi private quasi government banks. -- Deneal Schilmeister, ATP Learjet href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:53 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT Jim, Some friend you are, you probably came right over my house and you did not even say hello. Jim A _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT HI KIDS.. I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, Stockton CA (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was a long day as well. I did the entire trip in one day. I departed the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airline early that morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Field, the GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non stop to Kechican AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight. I slept in my own bed that same night. Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 then "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back down to 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oops). Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. I departed Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the south. Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city below illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and then on the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at midnight but the airport was well lit. To well. The high intensity lights were almost blinding on flair. The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared engine ran smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and was home by 10pm. just another day at the office!! Hope everyone has a wonderful new year!! jb _____ Get a free MP3 every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT From: Russell Legg G=B9day Jimbob, Thanks for sharing...what a great way to =8Cusher out 2008=B9! Happy new year to all and may 2009 be the best yet...remember down here in Oz we have already survived 14 months of =8Cthe change=B9...just remember do no t be enveloped by the fear doctors! Hell...fuel is so cheap down here again I keep thinking the bowser has cracked up ;-) Cheers from Oz Russell On 1/1/09 4:53 AM, "yourtcfg@aol.com" wrote: > HI KIDS.. > I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, Stockton CA > (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same Commander I brought down from > Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was a long day as well. I did the enti re > trip in one day. I departed the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airl ine > early that morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Fiel d, > the GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a Maule and > flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I flew the Command er to > the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non stop to Kechican AK. Toppe d off > again, I flew nonstop, across Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just > before midnight. I slept in my own bed that same night. > Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 then "dri fted > up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back down to 13.5Stayed ju st > South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of all the restricted airspace nor th of > vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4h r 15 > min. (There is BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oo ps). > Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) 4hr 45m in. > Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying at night. When w as > crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night and I miss it. I dont ge t > enough night time these days. I departed Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late > but VERY dark and made a climbing right turn back over the airport and on > course. I was at 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Cli mbed > to 11.5 and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a > little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the south. Next > was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles north but the urba n > sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight to look at the engine nac elles > at night checking for oil leaks, gear droop etc. No need here. The ligh ts > from the city below illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully , it > was truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and the n on > the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit of a tail wind , > 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at midnight but the airport was > well lit. To well. The high intensity lights were almost blinding on fl air. > The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared engine r an > smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and was home by 10pm. just > another day at the office!! Hope everyone has a wonderful new year!! jb > > Get a free MP3 every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now > . > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:45 PM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT Russell....what's a bowser? On 12/31/2008 4:34 PM, Russell Legg wrote: > Gday Jimbob, > > Thanks for sharing...what a great way to usher out 2008! > > Happy new year to all and may 2009 be the best yet...remember down > here in Oz we have already survived 14 months of the change...just > remember do not be enveloped by the fear doctors! > > Hell...fuel is so cheap down here again I keep thinking the bowser has > cracked up ;-) > > Cheers from Oz > > Russell > > > On 1/1/09 4:53 AM, "yourtcfg@aol.com" wrote: > > HI KIDS.. > I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, > Stockton CA (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same > Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was > a long day as well. I did the entire trip in one day. I departed > the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airline early that > morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Field, the > GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a > Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I > flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non > stop to Kechican AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across > Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight. I > slept in my own bed that same night. > Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 > then "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back > down to 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of > all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to > Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is > BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oops). > Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) > 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying > at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night > and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. I departed > Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a > climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at > 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 > and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a > little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the > south. Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles > north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight > to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, > gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city below > illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was > truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and > then on the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit > of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at > midnight but the airport was well lit. To well. The high intensity > lights were almost blinding on flair. > The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared > engine ran smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and > was home by 10pm. just another day at the office!! Hope everyone > has a wonderful new year!! jb > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it > Now > > . > * > > onth -- > me AWESOME FREE Gifts!) > ://www.matronics.com/contribution > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ist Email Forum - > r-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > matronics.com > * > > > * > > * ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT From: Russell Legg Hey John...that's what we call the 'box' that pumps the fuel out! Happy new year! On 1/1/09 10:30 AM, "John Vormbaum" wrote: > > > Russell....what's a bowser? > > On 12/31/2008 4:34 PM, Russell Legg wrote: >> Gday Jimbob, >> >> Thanks for sharing...what a great way to usher out 2008! >> >> Happy new year to all and may 2009 be the best yet...remember down >> here in Oz we have already survived 14 months of the change...just >> remember do not be enveloped by the fear doctors! >> >> Hell...fuel is so cheap down here again I keep thinking the bowser has >> cracked up ;-) >> >> Cheers from Oz >> >> Russell >> >> >> On 1/1/09 4:53 AM, "yourtcfg@aol.com" wrote: >> >> HI KIDS.. >> I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, >> Stockton CA (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same >> Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was >> a long day as well. I did the entire trip in one day. I departed >> the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airline early that >> morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Field, the >> GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a >> Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I >> flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non >> stop to Kechican AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across >> Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight. I >> slept in my own bed that same night. >> Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 >> then "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back >> down to 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of >> all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to >> Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is >> BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oops). >> Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) >> 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying >> at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night >> and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. I departed >> Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a >> climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at >> 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 >> and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a >> little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the >> south. Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles >> north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight >> to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, >> gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city below >> illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was >> truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and >> then on the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit >> of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at >> midnight but the airport was well lit. To well. The high intensity >> lights were almost blinding on flair. >> The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared >> engine ran smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and >> was home by 10pm. just another day at the office!! Hope everyone >> has a wonderful new year!! jb >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it >> Now >> >> . >> * >> >> onth -- >> me AWESOME FREE Gifts!) >> ://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ist Email Forum - >> r-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List >> ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> matronics.com >> * >> >> >> * >> >> * > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:11 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT It has wheels and are either tugged around or driven around, looking for aircraft that needs fuel. Where does the word come from? Certainly British, but where in that corner? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Legg Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT --> Hey John...that's what we call the 'box' that pumps the fuel out! Happy new year! On 1/1/09 10:30 AM, "John Vormbaum" wrote: > --> > > > Russell....what's a bowser? > > On 12/31/2008 4:34 PM, Russell Legg wrote: >> Gday Jimbob, >> >> Thanks for sharing...what a great way to usher out 2008! >> >> Happy new year to all and may 2009 be the best yet...remember down >> here in Oz we have already survived 14 months of the change...just >> remember do not be enveloped by the fear doctors! >> >> Hell...fuel is so cheap down here again I keep thinking the bowser >> has cracked up ;-) >> >> Cheers from Oz >> >> Russell >> >> >> On 1/1/09 4:53 AM, "yourtcfg@aol.com" wrote: >> >> HI KIDS.. >> I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, >> Stockton CA (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same >> Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was >> a long day as well. I did the entire trip in one day. I departed >> the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airline early that >> morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Field, the >> GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a >> Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I >> flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non >> stop to Kechican AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across >> Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight. I >> slept in my own bed that same night. >> Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 >> then "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back >> down to 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of >> all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to >> Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is >> BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oops). >> Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) >> 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying >> at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night >> and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. I departed >> Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a >> climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at >> 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 >> and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a >> little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the >> south. Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles >> north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight >> to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, >> gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city below >> illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was >> truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and >> then on the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit >> of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at >> midnight but the airport was well lit. To well. The high intensity >> lights were almost blinding on flair. >> The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared >> engine ran smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and >> was home by 10pm. just another day at the office!! Hope everyone >> has a wonderful new year!! jb >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it >> Now >> >> . >> * >> >> onth -- >> me AWESOME FREE Gifts!) >> ://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ist Email Forum - >> r-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List >> ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> matronics.com >> * >> >> >> * >> >> * > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR From: yourtcfg@aol.com AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN??It will be a sad day for us all, even those who voted them in.? We will soon have Gypsies in the palace.? jb -----Original Message----- From: Dan Farmer Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 8:26 am Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!? Only 20 more days until utopia. The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. ? That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants.? Please someone just take care of me.? There Ive said it.? Yes I am pissed that we are running towards? European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. God Help us from ourselves. df do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:40 PM PST US From: "Robert Feldtman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR who is John Galt? suggest all read Atlas shrugged - I'm ready to shrug bobf On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM, wrote: > AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN It will be a sad day for us all, even those who > voted them in. We will soon have Gypsies in the palace. jb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Farmer > To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 8:26 am > Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR > > > Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more days > until utopia. > The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all our > needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give everything up, > our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of course our money. That > seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry wants. Please someone just take care > of me. There Ive said it. Yes I am pissed that we are running towards > European Socialism as they seem to try and reverse course towards more self > sufficiency. > > God Help us from ourselves. > df > > do not archive > > > > > ------------------------------ > Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it Now. > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR From: yourtcfg@aol.com So well said, Thank you so much? jb -----Original Message----- From: nico css Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:56 pm Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR I'd like to chime in, politely, since many people are bent on this. ? Obama is now our president. I'll respect him for that. I believe the job molds the man, too. Some of his campaign rhetoric was just plain stupid and shame on the people for allowing?any politician to dupe them?in that manner. It's as if the people are clicking into idiot-mode when they listen to political campaign speeches. ? But there is nothing?anyone can do about it now.?Obama?is our president and there is hope, too:?Hope that the job will mold the?man and that the ignorance he displayed during his campaign will be replaced by hard-core reality. He is already flip-flopping?to the reality side on issues that will?definitely irritate those who voted for him on socialist issues. He is already rethinking tax increases in this economy (which begs the question, if tax increases are bad in a bad economy, why would it be good in a good economy), he is already showing a hard stance on the Palestinian issue as opposed to his ignorant utterances on Georgia,?and so on. So, I see positive moves and I route for him to make more such moves and not remain stuck on his positions expressed during the campaign. ? It is us who are in the accuser's box for allowing politicians to move all over the political spectrum buying in to that nonsense. But the process is what it is and it wasn't first tried here in the U.S. Even in Roman times 2,000 years ago people complained about the same things we do today. So, it's been around for a while. It is, however, healthy to analyze, self-audit?and?consider where we stand in terms of the manner in which we practice our politics and make corrections if we are found to be?at fault. ? For instance, during Bush 43's term, hatred, wicked lies, and vile rhetoric did more damage to the country than anything the president ever did. The practitioners of these despicable acts acted without regard for this nation and they were ready to inflict damage beyond any measure. When the war, for which these same adulterers of the truth voted, turned difficult, as wars oftentimes do, the personal trade in misinformation and vitriol escalated beyond belief. What would have been the correct and less costly (in terms of dollars and lives) response? I believe it was Trent Lott (could be wrong about the name but it was a Republican senator) that said, "We are not going to criticize a sitting president in time of war" after Bill Clinton launched a war, far less justified than Iraq, for dubious reasons and fiercely criticized by Republicans. That was the right and mature thing to do when one has this nation's best interests at heart and consider the?office of the president above one's own interests. Bush is now bending over backwards to mitigate the damage of a failing economy (a disaster which the operators of Obama's party created) for the new president and make his transition to power as smoothly as possible for the sake of the nation, not particularly for Obama the individual nor the Democratic Party. Compare that to Bill Clinton and his cronies who tried to cause as much damage as they could to make it as difficult as possible for Bush to transit to power. The petty crime of stealing all the W-keys off the keyboards was rather humorous, but it was an illustration of a much deeper resentment for this nation than what the deed demonstrated. We should not believe for a moment their attacks were against G.W. personally. It?was and still is?against this nation and its institutions. And that would cause emotions to flare up but we should refrain from becoming like them. My position has always been, honest and necessary opposition excluded, their acts and philosophy are anti-American and foreign to our culture, much l ike pathogens that consist of healthy tissue in their own right but they are lethal to the host in their purpose. ? We should also learn who we are opposing here. Many good, patriotic and loyal citizens are demagogued because they are Democrats, and we're wasting energy and resources that ought to be directed at the pathogens of our society --?those who wouldn't think twice to destroy the principles on which this unique and excellent nation was built. This cancer?that already left Europe incapacitated, on life-support and in intensive care is already evident here. ? Two decades or so ago one could have made a case that the Democratic Party provided a safe haven for those pathogens, but that is not the case at all today; it is as rife and perhaps more dangerous in the Republican Party than anywhere else because we wouldn't expect to receive siren-songs from that corner. In my opinion that was more of a cause why so many conservatives voted for Obama than anything else.?Even though he had nothing but rhetoric, he was basically an empty suit, but what he didn't have was what made him a more palatable choice than the Republican candidate,?who was chosen by our opponents. Unfortunately, it will take a revolution in the Democratic?and Republican?parties for the?new president to be fully molded to reality and that is where the rub lies. Will?Obama be a realist and buck the objectives of the pathogens in his party??Will the Republicans have the courage to rid itself of the pathogens in its system? We have no choice but to wait and see. The capta in will board the ship on the 20th of next month and he will set sail as he sees fit. We should not chop holes in the ship if we don't like him, like the pathogens did to Captain Bush. ? The Christian's position is that all authority is given by Christ as revealed in the Bible alone, not the Quran, or the Kama Sutra or some hieroglyphic stone-inscription. Unbelievers ought not to get all bent out of shape because of this, it is what the Christian doctrine teaches and you don't have to believe it to acknowledge it. If Obama is president because of the will of Christ, then we should show?him the respect of the office he holds for the sake of Christ who put him there. It is, then, also unavoidable to conclude that there is a purpose for which Obama has been raised up to be our leader at this time. We cannot fully know what that purpose is, but we can certainly, respectfully, speculate. Perhaps the Democratic and Republican parties have to be split wide open separating the pathogens from the healthy tissue of our nation, much like a surgeon would cut cancerous cells away from healthy tissue to save the patient.?I firmly believe that God retracted, for a time,?the effective presence of the Holy Spirit from us as a nation, which allowed evil to do what it naturally does, flourishing wildly, resulting in the attack on 9/11 to come over us (speculating:) to reveal the evil among us as it became evident in the aftermath;??(speculating:) to split the Muslims into two camps, those who are still functioning in a 7th century culture and those that tasted liberty, in the U.S.; (speculating:) to?bring reality to those nations that would have supported terrorism believing it's politically correct to do so; (speculating:) to bring the issue of evil among us to the public forum. ? ? I don't believe that Obama has been called to inflict so much damage on our nation that there will be a second civil war required to heal our nation. There are too many?believers that will be consumed in the process if we consider Abraham's petition before God regarding Sodom. Neither do I believe that Obama will be so far off reality that he will not diligently protect our nation, in the mold of President Bush, from terrorist attacks?on home-soil. (There are already moves afoot to maintain the surveillance program that had the pathogens so up in arms when Bush practiced it.) What is certain, is that the next two- and four-year periods will be deciding watersheds for our nation, given to heal us; we should act accordingly, and decisively, without fear, but always honorably.?If the surgeon hesitates, the patient is lost. ? That is my New Year's message to you all. Thank you all for being aviators, lovers?of all things nautical and of the atmosphere which carries us aloft at great speeds with vistas unimaginable a mere century before. Thank you for being lovers of Aero Commanders, great ships that brought pleasure to so many. ? May God bless you all. ? Nico ? ? ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:01 PM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE (LONG) COMMANDER FLIGHT Aha, now I understand. Happy New Year to you! It's still 2008 up here on top...well, for 4.25 more hours.... On 12/31/2008 5:06 PM, Russell Legg wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg > > Hey John...that's what we call the 'box' that pumps the fuel out! Happy new > year! > > On 1/1/09 10:30 AM, "John Vormbaum" wrote: > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: John Vormbaum >> >> >> Russell....what's a bowser? >> >> On 12/31/2008 4:34 PM, Russell Legg wrote: >> >>> Gday Jimbob, >>> >>> Thanks for sharing...what a great way to usher out 2008! >>> >>> Happy new year to all and may 2009 be the best yet...remember down >>> here in Oz we have already survived 14 months of the change...just >>> remember do not be enveloped by the fear doctors! >>> >>> Hell...fuel is so cheap down here again I keep thinking the bowser has >>> cracked up ;-) >>> >>> Cheers from Oz >>> >>> Russell >>> >>> >>> On 1/1/09 4:53 AM, "yourtcfg@aol.com" wrote: >>> >>> HI KIDS.. >>> I just returned from delivering a 560E from Commander Services, >>> Stockton CA (SCK) to Hollywood FL, (HWO). This is the same >>> Commander I brought down from Wasilla Alaska last summer. That was >>> a long day as well. I did the entire trip in one day. I departed >>> the Portland Or (PDX) airport on Alaska Airline early that >>> morning. Flew to Anchorage (ANC). Took a cab to Merrill Field, the >>> GA airport serving Anchorage where the seller picked me up in a >>> Maule and flew me to his private dirt strip. After a preflight, I >>> flew the Commander to the main Wasilla airport for fuel. Then, non >>> stop to Kechican AK. Topped off again, I flew nonstop, across >>> Canada, to my home near Portland, arriving just before midnight. I >>> slept in my own bed that same night. >>> Anyway, I left Stockton about noon last Monday, climbed to 11.5 >>> then "drifted up" to 14.5 to cross the Sierra Nevada range. Back >>> down to 13.5Stayed just South of Tonnapa (sp) NV to keep clear of >>> all the restricted airspace north of vas Vegas (area 51??) Flew to >>> Double Eagle airport in Albuquerque NM, 4hr 15 min. (There is >>> BRAND NEW control tower there, only open about a month, oops). >>> Landed at dusk. Topped off and flew to Jackson Mississippi (JAN) >>> 4hr 45min. Landed at midnight and spent the night. I love flying >>> at night. When was crop dusting, almost all the flying was a night >>> and I miss it. I dont get enough night time these days. I departed >>> Double Eagle at 5:15, not very late but VERY dark and made a >>> climbing right turn back over the airport and on course. I was at >>> 9500 feet and able to climb over the ABQ airspace. Climbed to 11.5 >>> and easily cleared the mount ain range east of ABQ. Then, just a >>> little south of Amarillo TX with Lubic(sp) clearly in view to the >>> south. Next was the metropolis of Dallas TX. I was 40 or so miles >>> north but the urban sprawl was amazing. i like to use a flashlight >>> to look at the engine nacelles at night checking for oil leaks, >>> gear droop etc. No need here. The lights from the city below >>> illuminated the underside of the airplane beautifully, it was >>> truly awe inspiring, wonderful to see. Next came Shreveport and >>> then on the Jackson. I stayed a 11.5 and had smooth air and a bit >>> of a tail wind, 180-185kts over the ground. The tower closed at >>> midnight but the airport was well lit. To well. The high intensity >>> lights were almost blinding on flair. >>> The next day it was more fuel a 4.0 hors to HWO. The old geared >>> engine ran smooth as butter. Caught an afternoon flight back and >>> was home by 10pm. just another day at the office!! Hope everyone >>> has a wonderful new year!! jb >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. Get it >>> Now >>> >>> . >>> * >>> >>> onth -- >>> me AWESOME FREE Gifts!) >>> ://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> ist Email Forum - >>> r-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List >>> ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>> matronics.com >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:49 PM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR Well "bowser" is a slighty more esoteric word. I KNOW who John Galt is...he's the man who stopped the motor of the world! On 12/31/2008 7:21 PM, Robert Feldtman wrote: > who is John Galt? > > suggest all read Atlas shrugged - I'm ready to shrug > > bobf > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM, > wrote: > > AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN It will be a sad day for us all, even > those who voted them in. We will soon have Gypsies in the > palace. jb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Farmer > > To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com > > Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 8:26 am > Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY NEW YEAR > > > Shout it from the mountain tops--HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Only 20 more > days until utopia. > The we can all sit on our asses. The gument will take care of all > our needs, all we have to do is give it up to the gument, give > everything up, our ambitions, our dreams, our liberties, and of > course our money. That seems what 53% of this lazy citisionry > wants. Please someone just take care of me. There Ive said it. > Yes I am pissed that we are running towards European Socialism as > they seem to try and reverse course towards more self sufficiency. > > God Help us from ourselves. > df > > do not archive > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a *free MP3* every day with the Spinner.com Toolbar. 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