---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/13/09: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:02 AM - Re: FW: Amazing video (yourtcfg@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: Amazing video From: yourtcfg@aol.com 175kts and 35-38 gph is the reall sory (I have flow triple 2 615hours)=C2 - jb I have been told that the 680E will burn 30-32 GPH at 170-190 kts. -----Original Message----- From: Tylor Hall Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 6:21 pm Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: Amazing video Moe, I have been told that the 680E will burn 30-32 GPH at 170-190 kts. =C2-I d o not need to get there is blinding speed. I also need to go high as you know. =C2-When I had Dan Farmers 500B for a year, she burned 30 GPH. Taking off of Pagosa Springs at 7600' in the summer was a concern with a sin gle engine=C2-ceiling=C2-of 8500'. It gets hot here in New Mexico. =C2- Tylor Hall On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Moe-rosspistons wrote: Tyler, =C2- I suspect that the operating cost of a 680F (not pressurized)=C2-and a 680 E should be close to the same, with the exception of the additional fuel cos ts for the "F".=C2- The "F" (flat nacelle) should be faster than the "E" ( bathtub nacelle) but I have no idea if it will come close to offsetting the additional fuel burn (square the horsepower to increase the speed?). =C2- Regards, =C2- Moe N680RR Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award From: Tylor Hall Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: Amazing video After I posted that, I thought I should have done a fact check on it. There is a lot of stuff going around that is not true and we need to check i t out. Back to helping Moe convert his 680FP and Tom's 680FLP to low pressure hydra ulics. In light of the cost of operation, I am back to thinking about a 680E. Moe and I had lunch the other day. =C2-Good to see him again. Tylor Hall On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Russell Legg wrote: Hi Folks, Caution...this email is a fake. The gun control laws that are mentioned in f act were introduced in 1997 (11 years ago) after a massacre that killed 17 p eople. I cannot vouch for the figures quoted but would confirm that this was an abs olutely =98over the top=99 reaction to a very unfortunate incide nt. The cost to tax payers is probably close, as is the estimate of number o f weapons destroyed. The incident was committed by a lone screwball who targeted a couple of tour ist buses and caf=C3=A9 in Tasmania. And so the more important question relates to how we can rub out screwballs in our society before they take their 5 seconds of limelight. Cheers from Oz Russell On 31/1/09 3:46 AM, "Moe-rosspistons" wrote: Tyler, Thanks for posting this. =C2-I had planed to, but was having a hard time f inding it in my computer. =C2-Enjoyed having lunch with you. Regards, Moe From: Tylor Hall =C2- Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:25 AM Subj ect: Re: Commander-List: FW: Amazing video I just received this from a friend. Can this be confirmed by our friends down under? Tylor Hall =C2-=C2- =C2-Australian Gun Law Update Here's a thought to warm some of your =C2-hearts From: =C2-=C2-=C2-Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia Hi Yanks, I =C2-thought you all would like to see the now available data f rom Down =C2-Under. It has now been one year (12 months) since gun owners in =C2-Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal =C2-firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program cos ting =C2-Australia =C2-taxpayers more than $500 million =C2-dollars. The first year results are now =C2-available: Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 =C2-percent; Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 =C2-percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent =C2-(yes, 44 percent); In the state of Victoria alone, =C2-homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent as compared with the last =C2-one year period when private owners hip of a firearm was =C2-legal. (NB: the law-abiding citizens did turn in their =C2-personal firearms, the criminal element did not and thus criminals in =C2-Australia still posses s their guns.) While data for the 25 =C2-years preceding the confiscation of privately ow ned guns showed a steady =C2-decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically =C2-upward in the past 12 months as criminals now are assured their victims =C2-will be una rmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in =C2-break-ins and assaults of t he elderly, while the resident is at =C2-home. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how =C2-public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense =C2-was expended in 's uccessfully ridding Australian society of =C2-guns.' This story of well intentioned government =C2-intervention in the rights o f lawful individuals to own and possess =C2-firearms won't be seen in the mainstream US media or on the American =C2-evening news. If President Obam a advocates a similar confiscation in the =C2-US, there will not be any re porting any of this to =C2-you. But, the Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns =C2-in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, =C2-gun-control laws af fect only the law-abiding =C2-citizens. Americans may want to take note before it's too =C2-late! FORWARD =C2-TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE =C2-SILENT MAJORITY. BE A PARTICIPANT IN THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO =C2-DOESN'T WANT TO SEE WHAT HA PPENED IN AUSTRALIA HAPPEN IN THE US =C2-! On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:47 PM, dongirod wrote: =C2- Amen! =C2- =C2- Don ----- Original Message ----- =C2- From: Jim Addington =C2- =C2- Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:16 =C2-PM =C2- Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: Amazing =C2-video =C2- =C2- =C2- That is a good =C2-video20and that is what the new leaders in this country are going to do there =C2-dead level best to do here. I got an email that =C2-had a clip that said =9CA fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and =C2-emotional maturity.=9D Sigmund Fr eud. I have not seen gun =C2-control work in any city or country. Jim =C2-Addington =C2- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list -server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:59 =C2-PM Subject: Commander-List: FW: Amazing =C2-video =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- BETTER =C2-BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY 6 - VERY BLUNT =C2-CONCLUSION !!! =C2- =C2- The British =C2-called - They want their rights back! http://au.youtube.co =C2-=C2-m:80/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- This e-mail message has been scanned =C2-for Viruses and Content and clear ed by MailMarshal =C2- =C2- Which stars will =C2-make the biggest headlines in 2009? 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