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Steve,
Thanks for posting the photos. My wife, Linn, particularly enjoyed
them. One of her former husbands was the Base Commander of Fort
Hamilton back in the early 90's and she lived in quarters one, which can
be seen in the lower left portion of the Ft. Hamilton photo. Later she
moved to Bay Ridge (Brooklyn) and had a condo that faced Wall Street
across the water.
The quality of the photos is outstanding.
Best regards,
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award.
From: Steve at Col-East
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:08 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Hey Commander gang,
Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of
those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of
airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells
photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did
something I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick
him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do
it, and we had a nice surprise for him.
We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New
Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I
think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut, where a
friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close
to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)
Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we
dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the
VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their
arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney
Island.
Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano
Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess,
with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of
Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A
national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They
should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter
traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln
and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do
you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)
We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to
call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey
location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington
Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to
intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA
traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.
The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how
to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put your
cursor in the photo you can view a much larger version.
http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp
Steve
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John,
You are right on with your comments about admiring yourself in the
spinners on the Commander. This weekend I will be flying back to Los
Angeles and I am going over to L19 today to polish the spinners on
N680RR,
Regards,
Moe Mills
N680RR
680Fp
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: John Vormbaum
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Steve,
Tell Shaun's bro that those are great pics! You're making me miss my
homeland..I grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love
NY and visit every summer. NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks
like you had picture perfect weather too. Plus, as a Commander pilot I
never get tired of "spinner shots". How many times have I looked out my
window and seen myself reflected in the spinner, and just had to give
myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil lucky enough to fly
this bad@ss piece of machinery!).
I find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn't
NY-pilot elitism, I don't know what is. New Yorkers are all the same.
Doesn't matter if you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an aircraft.
As far as the Piaggio P-180 (the "flying Catfish"), I've heard that it
is a very nice-flying airplane. I've also heard that if you can see the
end of the runway, it's not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day. Oh
well, airplanes are always give-and-take. They sure are fast for a prop
plane.
/J
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Hey Commander gang,
Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of
those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of
airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells
photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did
something I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick
him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do
it, and we had a nice surprise for him.
We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New
Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I
think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut, where a
friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close
to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)
Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we
dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the
VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their
arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney
Island.
Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano
Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess,
with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of
Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A
national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They
should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter
traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln
and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do
you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)
We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to
call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey
location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington
Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to
intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA
traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.
The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how
to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put your
cursor in the photo you can view a much larger version.
http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp
Steve
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mm=2C what do you do to polish your spinners? gmc
From: moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Great Day=2C Great Photos
John=2C
You are right on with your comments about admiring yourself in the spinners
on the Commander. This weekend I will be flying back to Los Angeles and I
am going over to L19 today to polish the spinners on N680RR=2C
Regards=2C
Moe Mills
N680RR
680Fp
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: John Vormbaum
Sent: Monday=2C March 23=2C 2009 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Great Day=2C Great Photos
Steve=2C
Tell Shaun=92s bro that those are great pics! You=92re making me miss my ho
meland=85.I grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I still love NY a
nd visit every summer. NYC is an incredible place! It sure looks like you h
ad picture perfect weather too. Plus=2C as a Commander pilot I never get ti
red of =93spinner shots=94. How many times have I looked out my window and
seen myself reflected in the spinner=2C and just had to give myself a Thumb
s Up (check out that handsome devil lucky enough to fly this bad@ss piece o
f machinery!).
I find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that isn=92t
NY-pilot elitism=2C I don=92t know what is. New Yorkers are all the same. D
oesn=92t matter if you drive a hot dog stand=2C a cab or an aircraft.
As far as the Piaggio P-180 (the =93flying Catfish=94)=2C I=92ve heard that
it is a very nice-flying airplane. I=92ve also heard that if you can see t
he end of the runway=2C it=92s not nearly long enough. Even on a cold day.
Oh well=2C airplanes are always give-and-take. They sure are fast for a pro
p plane.
/J
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East
Sent: Monday=2C March 23=2C 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Great Day=2C Great Photos
Hey Commander gang=2C
Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one of th
ose guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of airliners for
sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells photos on the web a
nd to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did something I had been me
aning to do for a long time. We were able to pick him up outside Boston and
take him with us for a day. I was glad to do it=2C and we had a nice surpr
ise for him.
We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New Hampsh
ire=2C but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance=2C which I think h
e enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut=2C where a friendly Piagg
io crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close to. (These thing
s have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)
Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island=2C we droppe
d down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the VFR corrido
r=2C passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their arrivals=2C and pa
ssing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney Island.
Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano Bridge i
nto New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess=2C with some
of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of Lower Manhatt
an looking east=2C midtown=2C uptown=2C the Intrepid Museum. (A national tr
adegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They should have been
put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter traffic. Really busy.
(I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels for ca
llout positions. Whose idea was that? How do you locate a *&^%$& tunnel fro
m the air?)
We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx=2C so I had to cal
l up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey location. G
ave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington Bridge=2C and
a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to intercept our line to
the northeast and sneak under departing LGA traffic=2C and then back to Wor
cester to drop Dan off=2C and finally home.
The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember how to
do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put your curs
or in the photo you can view a much larger version.
http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp
Steve
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Hi Guys,
On the subject of spinner shots, I took one (from the r/h seat!) when
Capt JimBob flew me from the Fly-In at Kansas City in September 2004.
I happened to look at it again a few days ago and was staggered to see
that 65,835 distinct hits have been notched up.
This means that nearly 66,000 different people have not just look at the
thumbnail image, but have clicked to get a "Large" format view.
You guys can help bump the number up more by searching on "N222JS" or
"Photo ID 0902631".
I'll be checking daily guys, so don't let me down.
Use your PC, ones at work, at your neighbors - *anywhere* ;-)
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
John,
You are right on with your comments about admiring yourself in the
spinners on the Commander. This weekend I will be flying back to Los
Angeles and I am going over to L19 today to polish the spinners on
N680RR,
Regards,
Moe Mills
N680RR
680Fp
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: John Vormbaum
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:49 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Steve,
Tell Shaun=92s bro that those are great pics! You=92re making me miss
my homeland=85.I grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I still
love NY and visit every summer. NYC is an incredible place! It sure
looks like you had picture perfect weather too. Plus, as a Commander
pilot I never get tired of =93spinner shots=94. How many times have I
looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the spinner, and just
had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil lucky
enough to fly this bad@ss piece of machinery!).
I find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that
isn=92t NY-pilot elitism, I don=92t know what is. New Yorkers are all
the same. Doesn=92t matter if you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an
aircraft.
As far as the Piaggio P-180 (the =93flying Catfish=94), I=92ve heard
that it is a very nice-flying airplane. I=92ve also heard that if you
can see the end of the runway, it=92s not nearly long enough. Even on a
cold day. Oh well, airplanes are always give-and-take. They sure are
fast for a prop plane.
/J
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Hey Commander gang,
Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is one
of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of
airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells
photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did
something I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick
him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do
it, and we had a nice surprise for him.
We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New
Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I
think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut, where a
friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close
to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)
Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we
dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the
VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their
arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney
Island.
Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano
Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess,
with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of
Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A
national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They
should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter
traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln
and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do
you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)
We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had to
call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey
location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington
Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to
intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA
traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.
The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember
how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put
your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger version.
http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp
Steve
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Got a link?
By the way...... Barry do you scour the big aircraft 'photo' sites from
time to time for Commanders? I looked a couple days ago to see if Dan
might have posted his, and saw a couple 2008 photos of Commanders in
Iran.
Real glad folks enjoyed those photos.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Collman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Hi Guys,
On the subject of spinner shots, I took one (from the r/h seat!) when
Capt JimBob flew me from the Fly-In at Kansas City in September 2004.
I happened to look at it again a few days ago and was staggered to see
that 65,835 distinct hits have been notched up.
This means that nearly 66,000 different people have not just look at
the thumbnail image, but have clicked to get a "Large" format view.
You guys can help bump the number up more by searching on "N222JS" or
"Photo ID 0902631".
I'll be checking daily guys, so don't let me down.
Use your PC, ones at work, at your neighbors - *anywhere* ;-)
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:11:03 -0700
John,
You are right on with your comments about admiring yourself in the
spinners on the Commander. This weekend I will be flying back to Los
Angeles and I am going over to L19 today to polish the spinners on
N680RR,
Regards,
Moe Mills
N680RR
680Fp
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: John Vormbaum
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:49 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Steve,
Tell Shaun=92s bro that those are great pics! You=92re making me
miss my homeland=85.I grew up on the north shore of Long Island and I
still love NY and visit every summer. NYC is an incredible place! It
sure looks like you had picture perfect weather too. Plus, as a
Commander pilot I never get tired of =93spinner shots=94. How many times
have I looked out my window and seen myself reflected in the spinner,
and just had to give myself a Thumbs Up (check out that handsome devil
lucky enough to fly this bad@ss piece of machinery!).
I find it amusing that NY pilots use tunnels as landmarks. If that
isn=92t NY-pilot elitism, I don=92t know what is. New Yorkers are all
the same. Doesn=92t matter if you drive a hot dog stand, a cab or an
aircraft.
As far as the Piaggio P-180 (the =93flying Catfish=94), I=92ve heard
that it is a very nice-flying airplane. I=92ve also heard that if you
can see the end of the runway, it=92s not nearly long enough. Even on a
cold day. Oh well, airplanes are always give-and-take. They sure are
fast for a prop plane.
/J
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:09 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Great Day, Great Photos
Hey Commander gang,
Shaun our cameraman has a brother just crazy over aircraft. He is
one of those guys sitting out at the end of runways taking pictures of
airliners for sites like airliners.net. He's now published and sells
photos on the web and to corporate flight departments. Saturday we did
something I had been meaning to do for a long time. We were able to pick
him up outside Boston and take him with us for a day. I was glad to do
it, and we had a nice surprise for him.
We started with some fairly boring work between Rhode Island and New
Hampshire, but we were working with a Boston Bravo clearance, which I
think he enjoyed. We pit-stopped for fuel in Connecticut, where a
friendly Piaggio crew let Dan aboard an aircraft he hadn't been up close
to. (These things have grown on me. Maintenance looks horrendous.)
Left CT and headed south for Long Island. South of Fire Island, we
dropped down to 500 feet and drove all the way to the entrance of the
VFR corridor, passing a couple miles south of JFK and under their
arrivals, and passing all of the other famous landmarks like Coney
Island.
Jumped back up to 1100 feet and headed up north over the Verrazano
Bridge into New York Harbor. Dan ripped off hundreds of photos I guess,
with some of them some real keepers. Classic Commander spinner shot of
Lower Manhattan looking east, midtown, uptown, the Intrepid Museum. (A
national tradegy the Twin Towers are still a hole in the ground. They
should have been put right back up again.) Very busy with helicopter
traffic. Really busy. (I always forget the copter guys use the Lincoln
and Holland Tunnels for callout positions. Whose idea was that? How do
you locate a *&^%$& tunnel from the air?)
We had a real job with vertical photography in the Bronx, so I had
to call up LaGuardia to negotiate access to our precoordinated survey
location. Gave Dan the opportunity for a pass over the George Washington
Bridge, and a tight U-turn over the Hudson back over the GWB to
intercept our line to the northeast and sneak under departing LGA
traffic, and then back to Worcester to drop Dan off, and finally home.
The point of all this (besides being pleasantly surprised I remember
how to do it) is that Dan took some great photos of the day. If you put
your cursor in the photo you can view a much larger version.
http://dvincent.smugmug.com/gallery/7686534_q6ayC#496531070_yB3mp
Steve
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Nico - thanks I needed this to send to a skeptic. I learned enought Arabic
in Saudi in 1982 whilst doing surgery there to understand enough word to say
the English translation is pretty close. We have a really big problem here
at the top. nuff said.
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Good evening folks,
This is not really a Commander topic per se, but aviation related, so
forgive me for posting non-Commander topics here. :-)
Can anyone give me a very high-level overview of how the older 121.5 MHz
ELTs work in saving lives and facilitating rescue? I understand they are
(or supposed to be) activated at a certain G loading and transmit an
emergency signal on 121.5 MHz, which is/was monitored by the
Cospas-Sarsat satellite system. But which ELT was triggered? Do the ELTs
transmit an identifying code? If so, what is it? The airplane's
registration? Next, how do the search teams - say the good people at
CASARA - locate the downed aircraft? Would the signal be picked up by
an ADF, for example, and triangulated to pinpoint a search location? Tom
Fisher, would you be able to help here? How does a CASARA search get
organised? Who advises CASARA? Is there somebody manning the frequency?
What happened pre-Cospas-Sarsat?
Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Andrew
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