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Robert,
I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want.
I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
mind....
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C <- nosehweel in the front
N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it
from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look
when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
fun though.
Jim Addington
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Commander-List:
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: mander-List: |
Jim, Thanks for sharing that.
I'm not a pilot yet, and most of you would call me "young" :) (I was born 10 years
after that video was made) but recognize well all the planes, specially the
good old 520! although I had never even heard of the "humming bird channel wing"...
did that thing really fly? (fail to see the connection w the birds Nico
posted recently...) but shows that even Dick Rutan's aircraft were inspired
from previous models...
My Dad started flying on the C170 and as you guys have recommended me I'm on the
look out to start flying as soon as the weather gets better around here, and
yes I've already scouted a grass trip (3hr drive...) where they mostly have taildraggers.
All that to tell you, that the good old fashion aviation still lingers on the heart
and blood of other generations!
560 Dreamer
EAA#879689
Subject: April EAA 582 Newsletter
Hi Everyone,
Don't forget about our Member Meeting THIS Thursday at our hangar;
Members Meeting - All About Birds, with ornithologist Peter Bichier
When: Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 07:00 PM EDT
Event Type: Members Meeting - Everyone is invited.
Where: 582 Hangar@ Toledo Metcalf Airport (KTDZ)
Description: All About Birds - Our Winged Friends (and sometimes unintended targets)
with well-known ornithologist (and new EAA 582 member) Peter Bichier. Bring
your questions, like "Can birds fly IFR?" and "How can I best avoid them?"
Peter is very interesting and also a very animated speaker, so this should be
loads of fun.
See you there!
Tony Kirk
EAA 582 Webmaster
http://www.eaa582.org
Subject: Commander-List:
Date: April 27, 2009 3:33:33 PM GMT-04:00
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_199609-1.html
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560 Dreamer
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241739#241739
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Subject: Press 1 For English
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0
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560 Dreamer just hang in there, every one had to start somewhere,and I
really do recommend starting in a tail wheel plane. If you do you will never
be afraid of one and it is easer to go to the nose wheel second.
Good luck
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Bichier
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
<pbichie@UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
Jim, Thanks for sharing that.
I'm not a pilot yet, and most of you would call me "young" :) (I was born 10
years after that video was made) but recognize well all the planes,
specially the good old 520! although I had never even heard of the "humming
bird channel wing"... did that thing really fly? (fail to see the connection
w the birds Nico posted recently...) but shows that even Dick Rutan's
aircraft were inspired from previous models...
My Dad started flying on the C170 and as you guys have recommended me I'm on
the look out to start flying as soon as the weather gets better around here,
and yes I've already scouted a grass trip (3hr drive...) where they mostly
have taildraggers.
All that to tell you, that the good old fashion aviation still lingers on
the heart and blood of other generations!
560 Dreamer
EAA#879689
Subject: April EAA 582 Newsletter
Hi Everyone,
Don't forget about our Member Meeting THIS Thursday at our hangar;
Members Meeting - All About Birds, with ornithologist Peter Bichier
When: Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 07:00 PM EDT
Event Type: Members Meeting - Everyone is invited.
Where: 582 Hangar@ Toledo Metcalf Airport (KTDZ)
Description: All About Birds - Our Winged Friends (and sometimes
unintended targets) with well-known ornithologist (and new EAA 582 member)
Peter Bichier. Bring your questions, like "Can birds fly IFR?" and "How can
I best avoid them?" Peter is very interesting and also a very animated
speaker, so this should be loads of fun.
See you there!
Tony Kirk
EAA 582 Webmaster
http://www.eaa582.org
Subject: Commander-List:
Date: April 27, 2009 3:33:33 PM GMT-04:00
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
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560 Dreamer
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241739#241739
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All success and happy skies to you, Peter.
You will always cherish the experience.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Bichier
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
--> <pbichie@UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
Jim, Thanks for sharing that.
I'm not a pilot yet, and most of you would call me "young" :) (I was born 10
years after that video was made) but recognize well all the planes,
specially the good old 520! although I had never even heard of the "humming
bird channel wing"... did that thing really fly? (fail to see the connection
w the birds Nico posted recently...) but shows that even Dick Rutan's
aircraft were inspired from previous models...
My Dad started flying on the C170 and as you guys have recommended me I'm on
the look out to start flying as soon as the weather gets better around here,
and yes I've already scouted a grass trip (3hr drive...) where they mostly
have taildraggers.
All that to tell you, that the good old fashion aviation still lingers on
the heart and blood of other generations!
560 Dreamer
EAA#879689
Subject: April EAA 582 Newsletter
Hi Everyone,
Don't forget about our Member Meeting THIS Thursday at our hangar; Members
Meeting - All About Birds, with ornithologist Peter Bichier
When: Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 07:00 PM EDT
Event Type: Members Meeting - Everyone is invited.
Where: 582 Hangar@ Toledo Metcalf Airport (KTDZ)
Description: All About Birds - Our Winged Friends (and sometimes
unintended targets) with well-known ornithologist (and new EAA 582 member)
Peter Bichier. Bring your questions, like "Can birds fly IFR?" and "How can
I best avoid them?" Peter is very interesting and also a very animated
speaker, so this should be loads of fun.
See you there!
Tony Kirk
EAA 582 Webmaster
http://www.eaa582.org
Subject: Commander-List:
Date: April 27, 2009 3:33:33 PM GMT-04:00
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
--------
560 Dreamer
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241739#241739
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Jim-
Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many cases
where persistence pays.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
Robert,
I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want.
I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
mind....
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C <- nosehweel in the front
N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it
from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look
when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
fun though.
Jim Addington
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Commander-List:
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
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They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with this
type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest pains
and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. He
had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress
and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private
license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is it
was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
Thanks
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many cases
where persistence pays.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
Robert,
I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want.
I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
mind....
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C <- nosehweel in the front
N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it
from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look
when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
fun though.
Jim Addington
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Commander-List:
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: mander-List: |
I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at
least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
that didn't amount to squat.
I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
(serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends
up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
> this
> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
> pains
> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
> He
> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress
> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private
> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
> it
> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
> Thanks
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> Randazzo
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
> Jim-
>
> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
> cases
> where persistence pays.
>
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> Robert,
> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
> want.
> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> Randazzo
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
> Jim-
>
> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>
> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>
> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
> mind....
>
> Robert S. Randazzo
> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
> it
> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
> look
> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
> fun though.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> Lorber
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
> To: Jim Addington
> Subject: Commander-List:
>
> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
>
>
> http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
> 9-1.html
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: mander-List: |
Commander Land;
I have a friend who lost his medical, when it looked like the light sports
flying was going to happen he went out and bought a Champ. When they passed
the new rule, he was denied the license because his medical had been
revoked. If he did not have a medical he would have been allowed to fly,
but because he had lost his medical, the drivers license bit did not apply,
so he sold the 'champ', a shame. He loved to go fly the Commander with me
and could give me a bi-annual as long as I was still current as he could not
be pilot in command. But he could still fly gliders! Crazy.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve W" <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but
> at least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed
> so stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over
> things that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval
> ends up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
>> this
>> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
>> pains
>> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
>> He
>> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of
>> stress
>> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my
>> private
>> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
>> it
>> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
>> Thanks
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
>> cases
>> where persistence pays.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> Robert,
>> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
>> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
>> want.
>> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>>
>> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>>
>> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
>> mind....
>>
>> Robert S. Randazzo
>> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
>> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
>> it
>> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
>> look
>> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
>> fun though.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
>> Lorber
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
>> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
>> To: Jim Addington
>> Subject: Commander-List:
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>> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
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If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts,
a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three need
to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and
still nothing.
Thanks for writing.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at
least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
that didn't amount to squat.
I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
(serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends
up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
> this
> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
> pains
> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
> He
> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress
> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private
> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
> it
> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
> Thanks
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> Randazzo
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
> Jim-
>
> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
> cases
> where persistence pays.
>
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> Robert,
> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
> want.
> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> Randazzo
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
> Jim-
>
> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>
> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>
> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
> mind....
>
> Robert S. Randazzo
> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
> it
> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
> look
> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
> fun though.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> Lorber
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
> To: Jim Addington
> Subject: Commander-List:
>
> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
>
>
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
> 9-1.html
>
>
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The stress those people put through if really well I better not say what I
really think about it. I will go ahead and see if I can get my CFI renewed
and can give BFRs and as long as the pilot is current in the aircraft I can
give some instruction.
I am going to call again tomorrow and see if I can find out what it is they
want. I think she told me she could not tell me though.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of L D GIROD
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
Commander Land;
I have a friend who lost his medical, when it looked like the light sports
flying was going to happen he went out and bought a Champ. When they passed
the new rule, he was denied the license because his medical had been
revoked. If he did not have a medical he would have been allowed to fly,
but because he had lost his medical, the drivers license bit did not apply,
so he sold the 'champ', a shame. He loved to go fly the Commander with me
and could give me a bi-annual as long as I was still current as he could not
be pilot in command. But he could still fly gliders! Crazy.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve W" <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but
> at least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed
> so stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over
> things that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval
> ends up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
>> this
>> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
>> pains
>> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
>> He
>> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of
>> stress
>> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my
>> private
>> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
>> it
>> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
>> Thanks
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
>> cases
>> where persistence pays.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> Robert,
>> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
>> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
>> want.
>> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>>
>> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>>
>> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
>> mind....
>>
>> Robert S. Randazzo
>> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
>> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
>> it
>> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
>> look
>> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
>> fun though.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
>> Lorber
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
>> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
>> To: Jim Addington
>> Subject: Commander-List:
>>
>> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>>
>>
>>
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
>> 9-1.html
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