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3. 08:02 AM - Re: (Jim Addington)
4. 09:11 AM - Re: ()
5. 09:31 AM - l-26 paint (scottmain)
6. 09:54 AM - Re: l-26 paint (scottmain)
7. 10:10 AM - Re: (Jim Addington)
8. 12:08 PM - Re: l-26 paint (Robert S. Randazzo)
9. 01:24 PM - Re: l-26 paint (Scottmain2003@aol.com)
10. 03:09 PM - Re: (Robert Feldtman)
11. 04:29 PM - Re: (Jim Addington)
12. 08:08 PM - Re: (Bill Hamilton)
13. 08:50 PM - Re: (Jim Addington)
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Subject: | Re: mander-List: |
A T-cart that needs rebuilding! I would love to do a Clip-T. I've spoken
with some guys that have glowing things to say about an 0-200 clip-T. So
many other projects have gotten in the way (money helps too.) But the Clip-T
has really appealed to me for years.
Have you seen the new Swick? http://www.swickt.com/
Yahoo!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two
> Taylorcrafts,
> a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three
> need
> to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
> had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
> He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday
> and
> still nothing.
> Thanks for writing.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but
> at
> least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
> stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
> that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval
> ends
>
> up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
>> this
>> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
>> pains
>> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
>> He
>> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of
>> stress
>> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my
>> private
>> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
>> it
>> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
>> Thanks
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
>> cases
>> where persistence pays.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> Robert,
>> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
>> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
>> want.
>> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>>
>> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>>
>> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
>> mind....
>>
>> Robert S. Randazzo
>> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
>> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
>> it
>> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
>> look
>> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
>> fun though.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
>> Lorber
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
>> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
>> To: Jim Addington
>> Subject: Commander-List:
>>
>> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>>
>>
>>
> http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
>> 9-1.html
>>
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Good Morning blorber,
Well, I don't know about the superhuman beings that were flight instructing
back then, but I had been instructing since 1949 and was doing so fairly
comfortably and with reasonable success.
Happy Skies
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 4/27/2009 3:35:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
blorber@southwestcirrus.com writes:
Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
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Other projects have gotten in the way of getting any of these rebuilt,
mainly money. I want to put an O-200 in the Champ primarily for the starter
and generator. The L-2 was a lot of fun and really a good flying plane. I
tore it down for recovering and had a guy that was supposed to do it and I
got taken for him not doing anything and he went to the Far East and I have
not heard from him since.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
A T-cart that needs rebuilding! I would love to do a Clip-T. I've spoken
with some guys that have glowing things to say about an 0-200 clip-T. So
many other projects have gotten in the way (money helps too.) But the Clip-T
has really appealed to me for years.
Have you seen the new Swick? http://www.swickt.com/
Yahoo!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two
> Taylorcrafts,
> a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three
> need
> to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
> had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
> He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday
> and
> still nothing.
> Thanks for writing.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but
> at
> least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
> stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
> that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval
> ends
>
> up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
>> this
>> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
>> pains
>> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
>> He
>> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of
>> stress
>> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my
>> private
>> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
>> it
>> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
>> Thanks
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
>> cases
>> where persistence pays.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> Robert,
>> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
>> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
>> want.
>> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
>> Jim A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
>> Randazzo
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>>
>> Jim-
>>
>> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>>
>> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>>
>> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
>> mind....
>>
>> Robert S. Randazzo
>> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
>> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>>
>> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
>> it
>> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
>> look
>> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
>> fun though.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
>> Lorber
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>>
>> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
>> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim
>> Addington
>> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
>> To: Jim Addington
>> Subject: Commander-List:
>>
>> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
>> Jim Addington
>> N444BD
>>
>>
>>
>
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
>> 9-1.html
>>
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You may contact www.virtualflightsurgeons.com I had a very good experience with them.
Kindest regards,
Bill
---- Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts,
> a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three need
> to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
> had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
> He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and
> still nothing.
> Thanks for writing.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at
> least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
> stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
> that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends
>
> up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
> > this
> > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
> > pains
> > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
> > He
> > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress
> > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private
> > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
> > it
> > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
> > Thanks
> > Jim A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> > Randazzo
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
> > cases
> > where persistence pays.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Addington
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > Robert,
> > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
> > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
> > want.
> > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
> > Jim A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> > Randazzo
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
> >
> > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
> >
> > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
> > mind....
> >
> > Robert S. Randazzo
> > N414C <- nosehweel in the front
> > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Addington
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
> > it
> > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
> > look
> > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
> > fun though.
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> > Lorber
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
> > superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
> > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
> > To: Jim Addington
> > Subject: Commander-List:
> >
> > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
> > 9-1.html
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greeting everyone. I own one of the 560A birds used by the airforce in 1955 designated
l-26. SN# 55-4647. I am planning a return to original paint scheme and
here is the request. I want to find the REAL paint code for the Polar White
and Cobalt Blue paint used on the original scheme. I have spoken with the folks
currently operating contemporary aircraft in the USAF and I havn't been able
to get an answer. I have read though the Eisenhower library records and it appears
the original 520 sent for evaluation had the blue and white scheme. After
deciding to purchase them Eisenhower was asked how he wanted them painted. his
reply was to keep them as delivered. From this I deduce that the color and
scheme was a factory stock item in 1955. Does anyone out there have suggestions
where to look for this info? I have talked to the folks with the L-26 at Dayton.
I would like to get the real code from the original spec. There must be a
record out there somewhere with more than a generic name for the colors. I think
this will be the only original L-26 flying so I want to get it right and make
all of us proud. Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance
scottmain2003@aol.com
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Serial number is incorrect but email had already been sent out. my apologies.
scott
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It has been a week since they were supposed to send me what information they
need. If I get something bad or an other delaying tactic I will get in touch
with them.
Thanks
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
n55bz@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
You may contact www.virtualflightsurgeons.com I had a very good experience
with them.
Kindest regards,
Bill
---- Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net> wrote:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two
Taylorcrafts,
> a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three
need
> to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
> had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
> He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday
and
> still nothing.
> Thanks for writing.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but
at
> least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
> stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
> that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval
ends
>
> up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
> > this
> > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
> > pains
> > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
> > He
> > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of
stress
> > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my
private
> > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say
is
> > it
> > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
> > Thanks
> > Jim A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
S.
> > Randazzo
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
> > cases
> > where persistence pays.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Addington
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > Robert,
> > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
> > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
> > want.
> > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
> > Jim A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
S.
> > Randazzo
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
> >
> > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
> >
> > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
> > mind....
> >
> > Robert S. Randazzo
> > N414C <- nosehweel in the front
> > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Addington
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to
fly
> > it
> > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
> > look
> > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure
were
> > fun though.
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> > Lorber
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
> > superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim
Addington
> > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
> > To: Jim Addington
> > Subject: Commander-List:
> >
> > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
> > 9-1.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Scott-
Whilst restoring our USMC WWII Pacific Theater Veteran SNJ6, we found the
smithsonian's garber facility to be a HUGE resource for paint matching.
They went out of their way to help us- for no remuneration other than a
phone call to say thanks..
I'll dig around and see if I can find the number we called....
Robert Randazzo
N414C
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottmain
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: Commander-List: l-26 paint
greeting everyone. I own one of the 560A birds used by the airforce in 1955
designated l-26. SN# 55-4647. I am planning a return to original paint
scheme and here is the request. I want to find the REAL paint code for the
Polar White and Cobalt Blue paint used on the original scheme. I have spoken
with the folks currently operating contemporary aircraft in the USAF and I
havn't been able to get an answer. I have read though the Eisenhower library
records and it appears the original 520 sent for evaluation had the blue and
white scheme. After deciding to purchase them Eisenhower was asked how he
wanted them painted. his reply was to keep them as delivered. From this I
deduce that the color and scheme was a factory stock item in 1955. Does
anyone out there have suggestions where to look for this info? I have talked
to the folks with the L-26 at Dayton. I would like to get the real code from
the original spec. There must be a record out there somewhere with more than
a generic!
name for the colors. I think this will be the only original L-26 flying so
I want to get it right and make all of us proud. Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance
scottmain2003@aol.com
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thanks robert. sounds like a good lead
scott
In a message dated 4/29/2009 3:09:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Scott-
Whilst restoring our USMC WWII Pacific Theater Veteran SNJ6, we found the
smithsonian's garber facility to be a HUGE resource for paint matching.
They went out of their way to help us- for no remuneration other than a
phone call to say thanks..
I'll dig around and see if I can find the number we called....
Robert Randazzo
N414C
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottmain
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: Commander-List: l-26 paint
greeting everyone. I own one of the 560A birds used by the airforce in 1955
designated l-26. SN# 55-4647. I am planning a return to original paint
scheme and here is the request. I want to find the REAL paint code for the
Polar White and Cobalt Blue paint used on the original scheme. I have
spoken
with the folks currently operating contemporary aircraft in the USAF and I
havn't been able to get an answer. I have read though the Eisenhower
library
records and it appears the original 520 sent for evaluation had the blue
and
white scheme. After deciding to purchase them Eisenhower was asked how he
wanted them painted. his reply was to keep them as delivered. From this I
deduce that the color and scheme was a factory stock item in 1955. Does
anyone out there have suggestions where to look for this info? I have
talked
to the folks with the L-26 at Dayton. I would like to get the real code
from
the original spec. There must be a record out there somewhere with more
than
a generic!
name for the colors. I think this will be the only original L-26 flying so
I want to get it right and make all of us proud. Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance
scottmain2003@aol.com
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241936#241936
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the risk is ----- if they deny all classes, you cannot do LSA. Sometime it
is best to just let it run out, that way you are not denied, and you can fly
with your driver's license.
bobf
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net>wrote:
> jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts,
> a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three
> need
> to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
> had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
> He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and
> still nothing.
> Thanks for writing.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List:
>
>
> I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at
> least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
> stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
> that didn't amount to squat.
>
> I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
> T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
> (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
> denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
>
> Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
> mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval
> ends
>
> up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
>
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
> > this
> > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
> > pains
> > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
> > He
> > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of
> stress
> > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my
> private
> > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
> > it
> > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
> > Thanks
> > Jim A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> S.
> > Randazzo
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
> > cases
> > where persistence pays.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Addington
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > Robert,
> > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
> > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
> > want.
> > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
> > Jim A
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> S.
> > Randazzo
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
> >
> > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
> >
> > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
> > mind....
> >
> > Robert S. Randazzo
> > N414C <- nosehweel in the front
> > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Addington
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > <jtaddington@verizon.net>
> >
> > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
> > it
> > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
> > look
> > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
> > fun though.
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> > Lorber
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> >
> > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
> > superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim
> Addington
> > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
> > To: Jim Addington
> > Subject: Commander-List:
> >
> > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
> > 9-1.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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After I had 9 Dr.s not find anything I thought I would not have any problem.
What a joke that was and as long as I have dealt with that bunch I should
have know better. I called EAA and talked with a lady there that was a real
sweet heart gem and she is going to call and find out what is going on. She
doesn't know why they want some of the test they ask for. Some I can
understand but some make no sense at all and are totally unrelated as well
as very expensive. The stress they put you under is ridiculous all because
the Dr. does not have the back bone to say yes.
If I seem a bit bitter I am.
Jim A
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Feldtman
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
the risk is ----- if they deny all classes, you cannot do LSA. Sometime it
is best to just let it run out, that way you are not denied, and you can fly
with your driver's license.
bobf
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Jim Addington <jtaddington@verizon.net>
wrote:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts,
a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three need
to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he
had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information.
He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and
still nothing.
Thanks for writing.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at
least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so
stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things
that didn't amount to squat.
I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs,
T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license
(serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get
denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely.
Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but
mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends
up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with
> this
> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest
> pains
> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him.
> He
> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress
> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private
> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is
> it
> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph.
> Thanks
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> Randazzo
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
> Jim-
>
> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many
> cases
> where persistence pays.
>
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> Robert,
> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they
> want.
> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
> Jim A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
> Randazzo
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
> Jim-
>
> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
>
> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
>
> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
> mind....
>
> Robert S. Randazzo
> N414C <- nosehweel in the front
> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly
> it
> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would
> look
> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
> fun though.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> Lorber
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List:
>
> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
> superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
> To: Jim Addington
> Subject: Commander-List:
>
> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
>
>
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
> 9-1.html
>
>
iption,
www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List"
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Jim,
Are you a member of AOPA, they have developed some useful assistance avenues
for members with medical disallowance problems.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
Robert,
I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want.
I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
mind....
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C <- nosehweel in the front
N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it
from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look
when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
fun though.
Jim Addington
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Commander-List:
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
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Bill,
Thanks they are on the list to call if EAA is not able to help.
How are things down under good I hope?
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Hamilton
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
Jim,
Are you a member of AOPA, they have developed some useful assistance avenues
for members with medical disallowance problems.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
Robert,
I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since
November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want.
I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun.
Jim A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun!
Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back.
Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never
mind....
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C <- nosehweel in the front
N4RC <- nosewheel in the back
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
<jtaddington@verizon.net>
That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it
from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look
when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were
fun though.
Jim Addington
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List:
Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of
superhuman beings taught aviation back then?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington
Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Commander-List:
I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots.
Jim Addington
N444BD
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960
9-1.html
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