---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/29/09: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:29 AM - Re: (Steve W) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: (BobsV35B@aol.com) 3. 08:02 AM - Re: (Jim Addington) 4. 09:11 AM - Re: () 5. 09:31 AM - l-26 paint (scottmain) 6. 09:54 AM - Re: l-26 paint (scottmain) 7. 10:10 AM - Re: (Jim Addington) 8. 12:08 PM - Re: l-26 paint (Robert S. Randazzo) 9. 01:24 PM - Re: l-26 paint (Scottmain2003@aol.com) 10. 03:09 PM - Re: (Robert Feldtman) 11. 04:29 PM - Re: (Jim Addington) 12. 08:08 PM - Re: (Bill Hamilton) 13. 08:50 PM - Re: (Jim Addington) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:19 AM PST US From: "Steve W" Subject: Re: Commander-List: A T-cart that needs rebuilding! I would love to do a Clip-T. I've spoken with some guys that have glowing things to say about an 0-200 clip-T. So many other projects have gotten in the way (money helps too.) But the Clip-T has really appealed to me for years. Have you seen the new Swick? http://www.swickt.com/ Yahoo! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Addington" Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two > Taylorcrafts, > a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three > need > to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he > had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information. > He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday > and > still nothing. > Thanks for writing. > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: > > > I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but > at > least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so > stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things > that didn't amount to squat. > > I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs, > T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license > (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get > denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely. > > Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but > mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval > ends > > up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air. > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Addington" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > >> >> >> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with >> this >> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest >> pains >> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. >> He >> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of >> stress >> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my >> private >> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is >> it >> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph. >> Thanks >> Jim A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. >> Randazzo >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> Jim- >> >> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many >> cases >> where persistence pays. >> >> Rob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Addington >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> Robert, >> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since >> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they >> want. >> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. >> Jim A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. >> Randazzo >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> Jim- >> >> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! >> >> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. >> >> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never >> mind.... >> >> Robert S. Randazzo >> N414C <- nosehweel in the front >> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Addington >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly >> it >> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would >> look >> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were >> fun though. >> Jim Addington >> N444BD >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock >> Lorber >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of >> superhuman beings taught aviation back then? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim >> Addington >> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM >> To: Jim Addington >> Subject: Commander-List: >> >> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. >> Jim Addington >> N444BD >> >> >> > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 >> 9-1.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:16 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Good Morning blorber, Well, I don't know about the superhuman beings that were flight instructing back then, but I had been instructing since 1949 and was doing so fairly comfortably and with reasonable success. Happy Skies Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 4/27/2009 3:35:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, blorber@southwestcirrus.com writes: Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of superhuman beings taught aviation back then? **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:58 AM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Other projects have gotten in the way of getting any of these rebuilt, mainly money. I want to put an O-200 in the Champ primarily for the starter and generator. The L-2 was a lot of fun and really a good flying plane. I tore it down for recovering and had a guy that was supposed to do it and I got taken for him not doing anything and he went to the Far East and I have not heard from him since. Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: A T-cart that needs rebuilding! I would love to do a Clip-T. I've spoken with some guys that have glowing things to say about an 0-200 clip-T. So many other projects have gotten in the way (money helps too.) But the Clip-T has really appealed to me for years. Have you seen the new Swick? http://www.swickt.com/ Yahoo! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Addington" Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two > Taylorcrafts, > a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three > need > to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he > had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information. > He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday > and > still nothing. > Thanks for writing. > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: > > > I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but > at > least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so > stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things > that didn't amount to squat. > > I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs, > T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license > (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get > denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely. > > Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but > mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval > ends > > up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air. > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Addington" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > >> >> >> They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with >> this >> type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest >> pains >> and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. >> He >> had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of >> stress >> and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my >> private >> license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is >> it >> was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph. >> Thanks >> Jim A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. >> Randazzo >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> Jim- >> >> Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many >> cases >> where persistence pays. >> >> Rob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Addington >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> Robert, >> I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since >> November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they >> want. >> I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. >> Jim A >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. >> Randazzo >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> Jim- >> >> For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! >> >> Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. >> >> Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never >> mind.... >> >> Robert S. Randazzo >> N414C <- nosehweel in the front >> N4RC <- nosewheel in the back >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Addington >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> >> >> That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly >> it >> from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would >> look >> when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were >> fun though. >> Jim Addington >> N444BD >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock >> Lorber >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: >> >> Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of >> superhuman beings taught aviation back then? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim >> Addington >> Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM >> To: Jim Addington >> Subject: Commander-List: >> >> I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. >> Jim Addington >> N444BD >> >> >> > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 >> 9-1.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:44 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: You may contact www.virtualflightsurgeons.com I had a very good experience with them. Kindest regards, Bill ---- Jim Addington wrote: > > If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts, > a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three need > to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he > had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information. > He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and > still nothing. > Thanks for writing. > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: > > > I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at > least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so > stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things > that didn't amount to squat. > > I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs, > T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license > (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get > denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely. > > Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but > mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends > > up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air. > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Addington" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with > > this > > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest > > pains > > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. > > He > > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress > > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private > > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is > > it > > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph. > > Thanks > > Jim A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. > > Randazzo > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Jim- > > > > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many > > cases > > where persistence pays. > > > > Rob > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Addington > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Robert, > > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since > > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they > > want. > > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. > > Jim A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. > > Randazzo > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Jim- > > > > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! > > > > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. > > > > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never > > mind.... > > > > Robert S. Randazzo > > N414C <- nosehweel in the front > > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Addington > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly > > it > > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would > > look > > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were > > fun though. > > Jim Addington > > N444BD > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock > > Lorber > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of > > superhuman beings taught aviation back then? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington > > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM > > To: Jim Addington > > Subject: Commander-List: > > > > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. > > Jim Addington > > N444BD > > > > > > > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 > > 9-1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:06 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: l-26 paint From: "scottmain" greeting everyone. I own one of the 560A birds used by the airforce in 1955 designated l-26. SN# 55-4647. I am planning a return to original paint scheme and here is the request. I want to find the REAL paint code for the Polar White and Cobalt Blue paint used on the original scheme. I have spoken with the folks currently operating contemporary aircraft in the USAF and I havn't been able to get an answer. I have read though the Eisenhower library records and it appears the original 520 sent for evaluation had the blue and white scheme. After deciding to purchase them Eisenhower was asked how he wanted them painted. his reply was to keep them as delivered. From this I deduce that the color and scheme was a factory stock item in 1955. Does anyone out there have suggestions where to look for this info? I have talked to the folks with the L-26 at Dayton. I would like to get the real code from the original spec. There must be a record out there somewhere with more than a generic name for the colors. I think this will be the only original L-26 flying so I want to get it right and make all of us proud. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance scottmain2003@aol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241936#241936 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:47 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: l-26 paint From: "scottmain" Serial number is incorrect but email had already been sent out. my apologies. scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241938#241938 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:08 AM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: It has been a week since they were supposed to send me what information they need. If I get something bad or an other delaying tactic I will get in touch with them. Thanks Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n55bz@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: You may contact www.virtualflightsurgeons.com I had a very good experience with them. Kindest regards, Bill ---- Jim Addington wrote: > > If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts, > a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three need > to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he > had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information. > He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and > still nothing. > Thanks for writing. > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: > > > I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at > least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so > stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things > that didn't amount to squat. > > I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs, > T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license > (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get > denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely. > > Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but > mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends > > up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air. > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Addington" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with > > this > > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest > > pains > > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. > > He > > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress > > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private > > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is > > it > > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph. > > Thanks > > Jim A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. > > Randazzo > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Jim- > > > > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many > > cases > > where persistence pays. > > > > Rob > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Addington > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Robert, > > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since > > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they > > want. > > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. > > Jim A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. > > Randazzo > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Jim- > > > > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! > > > > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. > > > > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never > > mind.... > > > > Robert S. Randazzo > > N414C <- nosehweel in the front > > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Addington > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly > > it > > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would > > look > > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were > > fun though. > > Jim Addington > > N444BD > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock > > Lorber > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of > > superhuman beings taught aviation back then? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington > > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM > > To: Jim Addington > > Subject: Commander-List: > > > > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. > > Jim Addington > > N444BD > > > > > > > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 > > 9-1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:48 PM PST US From: "Robert S. Randazzo" Subject: RE: Commander-List: l-26 paint Scott- Whilst restoring our USMC WWII Pacific Theater Veteran SNJ6, we found the smithsonian's garber facility to be a HUGE resource for paint matching. They went out of their way to help us- for no remuneration other than a phone call to say thanks.. I'll dig around and see if I can find the number we called.... Robert Randazzo N414C -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottmain Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: Commander-List: l-26 paint greeting everyone. I own one of the 560A birds used by the airforce in 1955 designated l-26. SN# 55-4647. I am planning a return to original paint scheme and here is the request. I want to find the REAL paint code for the Polar White and Cobalt Blue paint used on the original scheme. I have spoken with the folks currently operating contemporary aircraft in the USAF and I havn't been able to get an answer. I have read though the Eisenhower library records and it appears the original 520 sent for evaluation had the blue and white scheme. After deciding to purchase them Eisenhower was asked how he wanted them painted. his reply was to keep them as delivered. From this I deduce that the color and scheme was a factory stock item in 1955. Does anyone out there have suggestions where to look for this info? I have talked to the folks with the L-26 at Dayton. I would like to get the real code from the original spec. There must be a record out there somewhere with more than a generic! name for the colors. I think this will be the only original L-26 flying so I want to get it right and make all of us proud. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance scottmain2003@aol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241936#241936 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:05 PM PST US From: Scottmain2003@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: l-26 paint thanks robert. sounds like a good lead scott In a message dated 4/29/2009 3:09:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" Scott- Whilst restoring our USMC WWII Pacific Theater Veteran SNJ6, we found the smithsonian's garber facility to be a HUGE resource for paint matching. They went out of their way to help us- for no remuneration other than a phone call to say thanks.. I'll dig around and see if I can find the number we called.... Robert Randazzo N414C -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottmain Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: Commander-List: l-26 paint greeting everyone. I own one of the 560A birds used by the airforce in 1955 designated l-26. SN# 55-4647. I am planning a return to original paint scheme and here is the request. I want to find the REAL paint code for the Polar White and Cobalt Blue paint used on the original scheme. I have spoken with the folks currently operating contemporary aircraft in the USAF and I havn't been able to get an answer. I have read though the Eisenhower library records and it appears the original 520 sent for evaluation had the blue and white scheme. After deciding to purchase them Eisenhower was asked how he wanted them painted. his reply was to keep them as delivered. From this I deduce that the color and scheme was a factory stock item in 1955. Does anyone out there have suggestions where to look for this info? I have talked to the folks with the L-26 at Dayton. I would like to get the real code from the original spec. There must be a record out there somewhere with more than a generic! name for the colors. I think this will be the only original L-26 flying so I want to get it right and make all of us proud. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance scottmain2003@aol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241936#241936 **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: From: Robert Feldtman the risk is ----- if they deny all classes, you cannot do LSA. Sometime it is best to just let it run out, that way you are not denied, and you can fly with your driver's license. bobf On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Jim Addington wrote: > jtaddington@verizon.net> > > If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts, > a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three > need > to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he > had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information. > He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and > still nothing. > Thanks for writing. > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: > > > I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at > least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so > stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things > that didn't amount to squat. > > I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs, > T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license > (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get > denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely. > > Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but > mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval > ends > > up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air. > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Addington" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with > > this > > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest > > pains > > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. > > He > > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of > stress > > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my > private > > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is > > it > > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph. > > Thanks > > Jim A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert > S. > > Randazzo > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Jim- > > > > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many > > cases > > where persistence pays. > > > > Rob > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Addington > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Robert, > > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since > > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they > > want. > > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. > > Jim A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert > S. > > Randazzo > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > Jim- > > > > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! > > > > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. > > > > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never > > mind.... > > > > Robert S. Randazzo > > N414C <- nosehweel in the front > > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > > Addington > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > > > > > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly > > it > > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would > > look > > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were > > fun though. > > Jim Addington > > N444BD > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock > > Lorber > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of > > superhuman beings taught aviation back then? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim > Addington > > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM > > To: Jim Addington > > Subject: Commander-List: > > > > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. > > Jim Addington > > N444BD > > > > > > > > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 > > 9-1.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:29:08 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: After I had 9 Dr.s not find anything I thought I would not have any problem. What a joke that was and as long as I have dealt with that bunch I should have know better. I called EAA and talked with a lady there that was a real sweet heart gem and she is going to call and find out what is going on. She doesn't know why they want some of the test they ask for. Some I can understand but some make no sense at all and are totally unrelated as well as very expensive. The stress they put you under is ridiculous all because the Dr. does not have the back bone to say yes. If I seem a bit bitter I am. Jim A _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Feldtman Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: the risk is ----- if they deny all classes, you cannot do LSA. Sometime it is best to just let it run out, that way you are not denied, and you can fly with your driver's license. bobf On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Jim Addington wrote: If this effort fails I will try for a third class. I have two Taylorcrafts, a 1941 BC65, an L-2M, and the 7CCM Champ I got my license in. All three need to be rebuilt. They sent my records to a Dr. in FL on the 13 of March, he had 30 days to do something. What he did was say he need more information. He was supposed to have sent me a letter last Thursday, this is Tuesday and still nothing. Thanks for writing. Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: I wish the Feds would back off on people when not flying heavy iron, but at least the light sport class was step in the right direction. It seemed so stupid over the decades to see folks forced out of the saddle over things that didn't amount to squat. I thought some before writing, but figured I'd do it anyway. Cubs, Champs, T-carts and a ton of new craft are open to fly on a driver's license (serving as medical). From what I understand, it may be better to not get denied a medical and fly that class than lose the medical entirely. Please sir, take no offense. I know that option won't suit everyone, but mentioned it just in case it hadn't been thunk of and gettting approval ends up looking even more cagey. Its kep a lot of folks in the air. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Addington" Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > They sure are slow. I honestly think they have killed more pilots with > this > type of thing than they have saved. I know one for sure. He had chest > pains > and would not go to the Dr. because he was afraid they would ground him. > He > had a heart attack and died. This delay has sure caused me a lot of stress > and I was planning to go fly on the 50th anniversary of getting my private > license. That went by the way side on the 24th. Oh well, all I can say is > it > was really windy that day, like it was gusting over 40mph. > Thanks > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. > Randazzo > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:12 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > Jim- > > Don't give up. They are slow and not always smart- but I've seen many > cases > where persistence pays. > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Addington > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > Robert, > I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since > November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they > want. > I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. > Jim A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. > Randazzo > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > Jim- > > For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! > > Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. > > Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never > mind.... > > Robert S. Randazzo > N414C <- nosehweel in the front > N4RC <- nosewheel in the back > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Addington > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > > > That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly > it > from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would > look > when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were > fun though. > Jim Addington > N444BD > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock > Lorber > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: > > Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of > superhuman beings taught aviation back then? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington > Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM > To: Jim Addington > Subject: Commander-List: > > I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. > Jim Addington > N444BD > > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 > 9-1.html > > iption, www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:23 PM PST US From: "Bill Hamilton" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jim, Are you a member of AOPA, they have developed some useful assistance avenues for members with medical disallowance problems. Cheers, Bill Hamilton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:53 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Robert, I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want. I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jim- For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never mind.... Robert S. Randazzo N414C <- nosehweel in the front N4RC <- nosewheel in the back -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were fun though. Jim Addington N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of superhuman beings taught aviation back then? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM Subject: Commander-List: I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. Jim Addington N444BD http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/votw/VideoOfTheWeek_LearningToFly_1953_19960 9-1.html ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:19 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Bill, Thanks they are on the list to call if EAA is not able to help. How are things down under good I hope? Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jim, Are you a member of AOPA, they have developed some useful assistance avenues for members with medical disallowance problems. Cheers, Bill Hamilton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:53 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Robert, I do too when I can but have been fighting with the FAA medical since November and am waiting for them to send me what more information they want. I have a Citabria as well as my Commander. They are both fun. Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jim- For those of us who still fly'em- they still are fun! Once I discovered tailwheel- there was no looking back. Oh- there's a joke in there someplace... never looking back? Never mind.... Robert S. Randazzo N414C <- nosehweel in the front N4RC <- nosewheel in the back -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: That was back when the nose wheel was back on the tail and you had to fly it from the chocks and all the way back to the chocks. Those planes would look when you looked and would sometimes look when you did not. They sure were fun though. Jim Addington N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Understanding, courtesy, AND airplane knowledge? Sheesh! What kind of superhuman beings taught aviation back then? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Addington Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 12:33 PM Subject: Commander-List: I think you all will enjoy this one especially you older pilots. 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