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2. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: It is time... (Jim Addington)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: It is time... (Moe-rosspistons)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: Aero Commander - Winglets... (Moe-rosspistons)
5. 06:09 PM - Re: Aero Commander - Winglets... (yourtcfg@aol.com)
6. 06:21 PM - Re: Aero Commander - Winglets... (white_rhino_ps@yahoo.com)
7. 07:19 PM - 2 12V BATTERIES (yourtcfg@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: It is time... |
It was a joke Jim. And you shouldn't bring a baseball bat to a gun
fight. But when you do come with the posse, do me a favor and approach
the house slowly. We'll first be using the 2" potato canon because I
don't want to hurt anyone. This thing takes a really long time to
reload.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Addington
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Steve, that would be a good move, some of us might stop emailing and
come see you in person,. with a base ball bat. That bunch has done more
harm to this country than can ever be corrected.
Jim A
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:17 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Nico, I'm thinking maybe just this once I won't go into the valuable
service the ACLU lawyers perform for our country.....
----- Original Message -----
From: nico css
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
now yoy have steve all worked up again... :-)
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:48 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
This is my problem with the FAA, they are so afraid of their job and
the real problem if they are afraid of attorneys and law suits. Greedy
attorneys have just about killed this country and that is what makes up
most of the Democratic Party. We don't have a chance.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:20 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
I remember my 500's battery once went flat and a guy with a
Centurion gave me a jump. His was a 24 volt system (I think) and it
cranked the Lycomings so fast it started faster then it had ever before.
I tried without success to get the Commander upgraded to 24 volts or
even two of its regular batteries clamped together but nobody in the
sticks would make that call. It was a long time ago and I might have
some of the details wrong, but I remember the "no", "no", "can't be
done", "don't do it" responses I got until I gave up.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:03 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Bill,
I hope you can find that, it might give us something to fight with.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Hamilton
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:21 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Moe,
I can't immediately find it, but buried away in the FARs is a
general provision to substitute modern gel cell for wet lead acid, it
seem to me that, at most, the substitution needs only a field approval.
About the only problem is the difference in weigh, and CofG.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
& Jacqui Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:00 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Jim & Moe,
Whats the battery story?
I assume that you want to replace the large battery with something
lighter.
I have two G35 batteries in place of the G50. Aero Commander did a
service mod years ago. All I did was substitute modern batteries for the
models they used. Have all the paperwork here somewhere.
If you are interested I will find it and forward it.
Cheers
Richard
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:22 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Moe,
I am not able to go but am glad you are.
I pestered John to death about the battery set up and he has lost
his contacts with the FAA. My AI is going to see if we can use two 12
aircraft gell cell batteries. It is sad that the FAA does not have
anyone with enough back bone to say yes.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:17 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Folks,
Is anyone other than Linn and Myself going to the NRA convention
this week in Phoenix? We will be flying N680RR down on Thursday.
Moe Mills
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Jim Addington
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Every city, state and country that has banded guns has seen a big
increase in crime. If you go to the CHL class and work hard to get it
you are not going to do something stupid to lose it, plus, you know
better what you can do and had better not do. All the signs that say no
guns allowed are telling the crooks that this is a safe place to rob.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Feldtman
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:11 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
fyi ---
State Representative Joe Driver (R-Garland) would allow Concealed
Handgun Licensees to protect themselves on the campuses of public
colleges and universities. Campus settings are not "crime-free" zones.
Adult students, faculty, staff and visitors who are 21 or older, who
pass an extensive state and federal criminal records check, and who
complete a rigorous handgun training course, should not be denied their
right to self-defense simply because they study, live, work on or visit
a college or university campus. CHLs have been lawfully carrying
handguns for protection virtually everywhere in Texas for more than a
dozen years, and there is no statistical data or evidence that they
would suddenly transform into irresponsible criminals if legally allowed
to enter a college or university setting.
This important self-defense reform needs to pass this year, before
the anti-gun extremists in Washington gain momentum that filters down to
the state level. Please call and email your State Representatives and
urge them to SUPPORT HB 1893 on the House floor and to OPPOSE any
amendments not supported by the bill sponsor.
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Steve W <steve2@sover.net> wrote:
Agreed in principle Nico. I've approved of family packing when
appropriate, and I know of a couple instances where friends and family
both have only had to display some heat to turn away bad people
intending to do harm. It is appropriate and constitutionally protected
to be able to reasonably defend oneself.
I do think there is a problem inherent in the advance of the
technology of 'arms'. When the framers wrote our founding documents, one
man with a muzzle loading musket would have a difficult time killing two
people. But now it is possible to quickly and efficiently kill lots more
people faster. Virginia Tech was 30 something people? Binghamton was 13,
Alabama was 10 or eleven? This wsn't done with a Peacemaker. Hundreds of
rounds can be fired in minutes. We're now seeing mass killings as a
regular occurrence and it isn't even registering, or if it is at all its
seen as further evidence we need easier access to more lethal weapons.
The point Nico, is that while I am guaranteed the right to arms,
does this right extend without limit? Its just odd how people have been
completely inflexible and absolutist when it comes to some
constitutional rights, yet perfectly willing to give up on others in the
name of being kept safe from terrorist bad guys. Its that fear and
safety thing again, maybe. Having easy and unlimited access to any and
all weapons make one 'feel' safer, while at the same time on a
macrocosmic scale increasing the likelyhood of being killed by them.
You could perform a robbery or murder with a 38 special, or maybe
defend yourself, but we're seeing something different happening now. I
don't have answers, maybe only questions.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: nico css
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Come on, Steve. Nobody is going to shoot someone solely because
there is a gun in his hand. If there is enough motive and demeanor, a
killing is fixed, gun or not. Knowing the other guy might also be
packing heat has been proven to be an instant sedative.
You would be much more inclined to seek peace with your neighbor
through other means, even reasoning with him or getting to like 'new'
country music, if you know he has the same hardware that you do. With
gun control, you never know what he hides and what he is capable of
doing knowing all you have is your cell phone with 911 on your speed
dial.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:34 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Yes. We were set up as a Republic and should remain so. That's why
it was so odd during the last administration to watch so called
conservatives cheerleading the seizing and consolidation of Exexcutive
and Federal power. It's a great idea if its your guy and in the name of
keeping you safe, but no one seemed to consider it might not always be
their guy and the rules were set up with the bigger picture in mind.
Lower the bar for a President you like, allow him to bypass rule of law
and courts, and then panic because the next one you don't like may
inherit those similar powers.
I don't know how one avoids having to read the Constitution and
determining how to apply the thing. It took over a hundred years for
folks to wonder if all men created equal meant women too. Two hundred
years later some folks figured they couldn't have meant black people
also? Naw...... At the time this looked like a new and activist
interpretation to many, and maybe it was. Real freedom isn't just for
things I like and approve of.
Keep and bear arms. I'm in a bad mood with an itchy trigger finger
and my neighbors playing that vapid 'new' country music again. Even with
slugs, the pump 20 isn't a big enough threat. Can I keep a 105mm trained
on his house 24 hours a day?
Sooner or later Milt is going to form his Commander list posse and
come to get me. If the land mines don't get him first, I've been mixing
up home-made anthrax, with scrapings from glowing watches and baby poop.
Sure to stop him dead in his tracks...... Is that protected?
Are Federal drug laws ok? What do I care if someone is growing
weed in their outhouse.
It is very reassuring to hear of the exodus to Texas. God knows
they've got the room. But what are you going to do about Austin?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Feldtman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
that's why the founders set up a Republic - each state has it's
own autonomy - except what the constitution says in clear black and
white. it is NOT a living document for interpretation. I suggest we all
re-read that document.
I've seen more "out of state" license plates here in Texas in
the last three months than I have ever seen before. Has the exodus
quietly begun?
The Republic of Texas won't have GA user fees! And I can go back
to carrying heat in the plane.
bobf
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Steve W <steve2@sover.net>
wrote:
<steve2@sover.net>
I wasn't going to spoil it for David. He's a good sport. And
Nico had written a very well thought out post. Even Milt wrote a smart
and well balanced one. (Until the other one about the Militia guys
maybe not being wackos. They are wackos but should be left alone. And
New England and California? That's like mixing a New England version of
the Waltons with Baywatch.)
That piece was written to inflame passion, anger and fear; and
the real author knew exactly what buttons to push to do so. There is
such crazy assed shit being said on all sides, but hardly anyone seems
to care if what is said is true or not. I remember pissing off a bunch
of the far left about ten years ago over an environmental and farming
issue when I had to learn the facts instead of parroting back the crap
that was then coming through as faxes.
I learned people were less interested in the truth than
reinforcing something they already chose to believe. So a work program
becomes evidence of an evil plot designed to create an army of Obama
supporters who will seize power and make you honkies listen to better
music and eat salad.
It so often comes down to the manipulation and reinforcement of
fear. Fear of loss, fear for safety, and the constant warnings now from
so many sources pointing out new and dire threats. (I wonder, are pilots
as a class more vigilant to identification of threat.) I'm not going to
sacrifice everything that's best about us, pervert my values and live in
perpetual fear because we're threatened.
To hell with political parties and the moronic sides they make
people take. But if a State wants to try some really, really stupid
ideas and opt out of Federal laws and programs, I think they should be
allowed to. Like now, if the citizens of Texas think guns are really too
hard to get and want to opt out of Federal laws designed to keep guns
from bad guys, and automatic weapons off the streets... Go for it. Give
it a wack and see if if you like it.
I think much of the time it is less right and left than it is
rural sensibilities against city requirements. When we were just
frontier and people were spread out common sense and little interference
makes more sense. With you people breeding like rabbits, too much of the
population is packed together like sardines. I'm not so sure rural rules
would work in cities, and I wouldn't want to tell those folks what's
best for them. Likewise out in the sticks, I like being left alone.
I'll quit now. Been working on a major project way too many
weeks in a row. A little punchy.
(Note: the views above definately do not represent those of the
swell little company I work for.)
Please resume your regular programming.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum"
<john@vormbaum.com>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
<john@vormbaum.com>
As much as I loved reading this, alas, it wasn't written by
Kaiser. In fact,
nobody knows who wrote it except for the signature "TPS".
Bummer:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
David Owens
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:48 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
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"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of
the world. I
hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
- Barack Obama
History Unfolding
I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15
books on
history that have been published in six languages, and I have
studied
history all my life. I have come to think there is something
monumentally
large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis,
or a
mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they
are merely
single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming
into a
sharper focus.
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it
because I
know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people
react to it..
Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something
happening within
our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen
years. The pace
has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our
banks make
massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
(JCS: Re above and below, I say in order to severlywound our
country and
our economy, and reduce our will to resist.)
We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has
little or no
real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars
(that is
$2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell
us to whom
or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine.
And that is
three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously
just this
past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are
the terms
unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I
thought this was a
government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our
elected leaders.
Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally
de-industrializing our
economy. Why?
We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our
history, and no
longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and
why we are
worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think
critically,
read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not
picketing,
school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close
election
(violently in California over a proposition that is so
controversial that it
simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and
one woman.
Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We
have
corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected
judges to write
laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream
Marxist
groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a
banana
republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in
free fall,
major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge
of
collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and
our entire
government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach
college and I
know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering
in its
length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...
And we are at
war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending
people of the
same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of
your
children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows
anything about,
who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as
big
asWasilla, Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are
with real
radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we
learn about
him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely
you have
heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory
civilian
defense force stronger than our military for use inside our
borders? No? Oh,
of course. The media would never play that for you over and over
and then
demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and
$150,000 wardrobe
are more important.)
Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word:
Change. Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children
as I am now.
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he
has never,
ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will
divide us
along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to
realign the pieces
into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed
coming. And when
it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
And that is only the beginning..
As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come
to experience
what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s.
In those
times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser
from the
streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.
What they
should have known was that he was associated with groups that
shouted,
shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he
edged his way
onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative
"losers" read
it right now.
And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people
were losing
jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and
waved a lot.
And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear
that his
"brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which
they did -
regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a
full-throttled
economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly,
but surely
he seized the controls of government power, person by person,
department by
department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German
citizens were
at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where
they were
taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do
so. No Jews of
course,
How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs
to the
jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the
military-industrial
complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating
gun control,
health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to
re-instill
pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the
world. He
did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did
this all in
the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely
got what
they voted for.
If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in
the history
books.
So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected
in 1933 and
were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed.
WhenWinston
Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated
in the
House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he
was booed into
his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.
And the
world came to regret that he was not listened to.
Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most
cultured country
in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals,
laboratories, and
universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time
span than just
two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own
citizens,
killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against
parents, and
neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions,
of course.
The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional
decisions, I have
a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of
evidence tell me
(even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what
history is
shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can
hope I am
wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring
what is
transpiring around me..
I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will
scoff at me,
others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some
degree, perhaps
I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and
tell them
exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.
I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is
our vote in
the next elections.
David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States
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Subject: | Re: It is time... |
Steve, I hope you took what I said as a joke about coming over, I do believe
the ACLU has hone this country harm.
Jim
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
It was a joke Jim. And you shouldn't bring a baseball bat to a gun fight.
But when you do come with the posse, do me a favor and approach the house
slowly. We'll first be using the 2" potato canon because I don't want to
hurt anyone. This thing takes a really long time to reload.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim <mailto:jtaddington@verizon.net> Addington
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Steve, that would be a good move, some of us might stop emailing and come
see you in person,. with a base ball bat. That bunch has done more harm to
this country than can ever be corrected.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Nico, I'm thinking maybe just this once I won't go into the valuable service
the ACLU lawyers perform for our country.....
----- Original Message -----
From: nico <mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com> css
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
now yoy have steve all worked up again... :-)
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
This is my problem with the FAA, they are so afraid of their job and the
real problem if they are afraid of attorneys and law suits. Greedy attorneys
have just about killed this country and that is what makes up most of the
Democratic Party. We don't have a chance.
Jim A
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
I remember my 500's battery once went flat and a guy with a Centurion gave
me a jump. His was a 24 volt system (I think) and it cranked the Lycomings
so fast it started faster then it had ever before. I tried without success
to get the Commander upgraded to 24 volts or even two of its regular
batteries clamped together but nobody in the sticks would make that call. It
was a long time ago and I might have some of the details wrong, but I
remember the "no", "no", "can't be done", "don't do it" responses I got
until I gave up.
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Bill,
I hope you can find that, it might give us something to fight with.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Hamilton
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Moe,
I can't immediately find it, but buried away in the FARs is a general
provision to substitute modern gel cell for wet lead acid, it seem to me
that, at most, the substitution needs only a field approval.
About the only problem is the difference in weigh, and CofG.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard &
Jacqui Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Jim & Moe,
Whats the battery story?
I assume that you want to replace the large battery with something lighter.
I have two G35 batteries in place of the G50. Aero Commander did a service
mod years ago. All I did was substitute modern batteries for the models they
used. Have all the paperwork here somewhere.
If you are interested I will find it and forward it.
Cheers
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:22 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Moe,
I am not able to go but am glad you are.
I pestered John to death about the battery set up and he has lost his
contacts with the FAA. My AI is going to see if we can use two 12 aircraft
gell cell batteries. It is sad that the FAA does not have anyone with enough
back bone to say yes.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Folks,
Is anyone other than Linn and Myself going to the NRA convention this week
in Phoenix? We will be flying N680RR down on Thursday.
Moe Mills
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Jim Addington <mailto:jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Every city, state and country that has banded guns has seen a big increase
in crime. If you go to the CHL class and work hard to get it you are not
going to do something stupid to lose it, plus, you know better what you can
do and had better not do. All the signs that say no guns allowed are telling
the crooks that this is a safe place to rob.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Feldtman
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
fyi ---
State Representative Joe Driver (R-Garland) would allow Concealed Handgun
Licensees to protect themselves on the campuses of public colleges and
universities. Campus settings are not "crime-free" zones. Adult students,
faculty, staff and visitors who are 21 or older, who pass an extensive state
and federal criminal records check, and who complete a rigorous handgun
training course, should not be denied their right to self-defense simply
because they study, live, work on or visit a college or university campus.
CHLs have been lawfully carrying handguns for protection virtually
everywhere in Texas for more than a dozen years, and there is no statistical
data or evidence that they would suddenly transform into irresponsible
criminals if legally allowed to enter a college or university setting.
This important self-defense reform needs to pass this year, before the
anti-gun extremists in Washington gain momentum that filters down to the
state level. Please call and email your State Representatives and urge them
to SUPPORT HB 1893 on the House floor and to OPPOSE any amendments not
supported by the bill sponsor.
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Steve W <steve2@sover.net> wrote:
Agreed in principle Nico. I've approved of family packing when appropriate,
and I know of a couple instances where friends and family both have only had
to display some heat to turn away bad people intending to do harm. It is
appropriate and constitutionally protected to be able to reasonably defend
oneself.
I do think there is a problem inherent in the advance of the technology of
'arms'. When the framers wrote our founding documents, one man with a muzzle
loading musket would have a difficult time killing two people. But now it is
possible to quickly and efficiently kill lots more people faster. Virginia
Tech was 30 something people? Binghamton was 13, Alabama was 10 or eleven?
This wsn't done with a Peacemaker. Hundreds of rounds can be fired in
minutes. We're now seeing mass killings as a regular occurrence and it isn't
even registering, or if it is at all its seen as further evidence we need
easier access to more lethal weapons.
The point Nico, is that while I am guaranteed the right to arms, does this
right extend without limit? Its just odd how people have been completely
inflexible and absolutist when it comes to some constitutional rights, yet
perfectly willing to give up on others in the name of being kept safe from
terrorist bad guys. Its that fear and safety thing again, maybe. Having easy
and unlimited access to any and all weapons make one 'feel' safer, while at
the same time on a macrocosmic scale increasing the likelyhood of being
killed by them.
You could perform a robbery or murder with a 38 special, or maybe defend
yourself, but we're seeing something different happening now. I don't have
answers, maybe only questions.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: nico css <mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Come on, Steve. Nobody is going to shoot someone solely because there is a
gun in his hand. If there is enough motive and demeanor, a killing is fixed,
gun or not. Knowing the other guy might also be packing heat has been proven
to be an instant sedative.
You would be much more inclined to seek peace with your neighbor through
other means, even reasoning with him or getting to like 'new' country music,
if you know he has the same hardware that you do. With gun control, you
never know what he hides and what he is capable of doing knowing all you
have is your cell phone with 911 on your speed dial.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Yes. We were set up as a Republic and should remain so. That's why it was so
odd during the last administration to watch so called conservatives
cheerleading the seizing and consolidation of Exexcutive and Federal power.
It's a great idea if its your guy and in the name of keeping you safe, but
no one seemed to consider it might not always be their guy and the rules
were set up with the bigger picture in mind. Lower the bar for a President
you like, allow him to bypass rule of law and courts, and then panic because
the next one you don't like may inherit those similar powers.
I don't know how one avoids having to read the Constitution and determining
how to apply the thing. It took over a hundred years for folks to wonder if
all men created equal meant women too. Two hundred years later some folks
figured they couldn't have meant black people also? Naw...... At the time
this looked like a new and activist interpretation to many, and maybe it
was. Real freedom isn't just for things I like and approve of.
Keep and bear arms. I'm in a bad mood with an itchy trigger finger and my
neighbors playing that vapid 'new' country music again. Even with slugs, the
pump 20 isn't a big enough threat. Can I keep a 105mm trained on his house
24 hours a day?
Sooner or later Milt is going to form his Commander list posse and come to
get me. If the land mines don't get him first, I've been mixing up home-made
anthrax, with scrapings from glowing watches and baby poop. Sure to stop him
dead in his tracks...... Is that protected?
Are Federal drug laws ok? What do I care if someone is growing weed in their
outhouse.
It is very reassuring to hear of the exodus to Texas. God knows they've got
the room. But what are you going to do about Austin?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com> Feldtman
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
that's why the founders set up a Republic - each state has it's own autonomy
- except what the constitution says in clear black and white. it is NOT a
living document for interpretation. I suggest we all re-read that document.
I've seen more "out of state" license plates here in Texas in the last three
months than I have ever seen before. Has the exodus quietly begun?
The Republic of Texas won't have GA user fees! And I can go back to carrying
heat in the plane.
bobf
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Steve W <steve2@sover.net> wrote:
I wasn't going to spoil it for David. He's a good sport. And Nico had
written a very well thought out post. Even Milt wrote a smart and well
balanced one. (Until the other one about the Militia guys maybe not being
wackos. They are wackos but should be left alone. And New England and
California? That's like mixing a New England version of the Waltons with
Baywatch.)
That piece was written to inflame passion, anger and fear; and the real
author knew exactly what buttons to push to do so. There is such crazy assed
shit being said on all sides, but hardly anyone seems to care if what is
said is true or not. I remember pissing off a bunch of the far left about
ten years ago over an environmental and farming issue when I had to learn
the facts instead of parroting back the crap that was then coming through as
faxes.
I learned people were less interested in the truth than reinforcing
something they already chose to believe. So a work program becomes evidence
of an evil plot designed to create an army of Obama supporters who will
seize power and make you honkies listen to better music and eat salad.
It so often comes down to the manipulation and reinforcement of fear. Fear
of loss, fear for safety, and the constant warnings now from so many sources
pointing out new and dire threats. (I wonder, are pilots as a class more
vigilant to identification of threat.) I'm not going to sacrifice everything
that's best about us, pervert my values and live in perpetual fear because
we're threatened.
To hell with political parties and the moronic sides they make people take.
But if a State wants to try some really, really stupid ideas and opt out of
Federal laws and programs, I think they should be allowed to. Like now, if
the citizens of Texas think guns are really too hard to get and want to opt
out of Federal laws designed to keep guns from bad guys, and automatic
weapons off the streets... Go for it. Give it a wack and see if if you like
it.
I think much of the time it is less right and left than it is rural
sensibilities against city requirements. When we were just frontier and
people were spread out common sense and little interference makes more
sense. With you people breeding like rabbits, too much of the population is
packed together like sardines. I'm not so sure rural rules would work in
cities, and I wouldn't want to tell those folks what's best for them.
Likewise out in the sticks, I like being left alone.
I'll quit now. Been working on a major project way too many weeks in a row.
A little punchy.
(Note: the views above definately do not represent those of the swell little
company I work for.)
Please resume your regular programming.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
As much as I loved reading this, alas, it wasn't written by Kaiser. In fact,
nobody knows who wrote it except for the signature "TPS". Bummer:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
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"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I
hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
- Barack Obama
History Unfolding
I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on
history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied
history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally
large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a
mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely
single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a
sharper focus.
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I
know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it..
Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within
our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace
has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make
massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
(JCS: Re above and below, I say in order to severlywound our country and
our economy, and reduce our will to resist.)
We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no
real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is
$2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom
or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is
three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this
past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms
unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a
government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders.
Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our
economy. Why?
We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no
longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are
worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically,
read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing,
school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election
(violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it
simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman.
Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have
corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write
laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist
groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana
republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall,
major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of
collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire
government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I
know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its
length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten... And we are at
war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the
same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your
children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about,
who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big
asWasilla, Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are with real
radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about
him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have
heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian
defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh,
of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then
demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe
are more important.)
Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never,
ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us
along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces
into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when
it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
And that is only the beginning..
As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience
what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s. In those
times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the
streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they
should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted,
shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way
onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read
it right now.
And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing
jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot.
And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his
"brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did -
regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled
economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely
he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by
department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were
at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were
taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of
course,
How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the
jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial
complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control,
health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill
pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He
did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in
the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely got what
they voted for.
If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history
books.
So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and
were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. WhenWinston
Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the
House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into
his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the
world came to regret that he was not listened to.
Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country
in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and
universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just
two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens,
killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and
neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course.
The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have
a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me
(even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is
shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am
wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is
transpiring around me..
I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me,
others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps
I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them
exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.
I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in
the next elections.
David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States
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Subject: | Re: It is time... |
Bill,
Thanks. My 680Fp came with a NiCad battery and was changed to a lead
acid battery. In reading the early log books it appears that the NiCad
was very problematic.
Moe
From: Steve W
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
It was a joke Jim. And you shouldn't bring a baseball bat to a gun
fight. But when you do come with the posse, do me a favor and approach
the house slowly. We'll first be using the 2" potato canon because I
don't want to hurt anyone. This thing takes a really long time to
reload.
Steve
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From: Jim Addington
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Steve, that would be a good move, some of us might stop emailing and
come see you in person,. with a base ball bat. That bunch has done more
harm to this country than can ever be corrected.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:17 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Nico, I'm thinking maybe just this once I won't go into the valuable
service the ACLU lawyers perform for our country.....
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From: nico css
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
now yoy have steve all worked up again... :-)
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:48 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
This is my problem with the FAA, they are so afraid of their job and
the real problem if they are afraid of attorneys and law suits. Greedy
attorneys have just about killed this country and that is what makes up
most of the Democratic Party. We don't have a chance.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:20 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
I remember my 500's battery once went flat and a guy with a
Centurion gave me a jump. His was a 24 volt system (I think) and it
cranked the Lycomings so fast it started faster then it had ever before.
I tried without success to get the Commander upgraded to 24 volts or
even two of its regular batteries clamped together but nobody in the
sticks would make that call. It was a long time ago and I might have
some of the details wrong, but I remember the "no", "no", "can't be
done", "don't do it" responses I got until I gave up.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:03 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Bill,
I hope you can find that, it might give us something to fight with.
Jim A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Hamilton
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:21 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Moe,
I can't immediately find it, but buried away in the FARs is a
general provision to substitute modern gel cell for wet lead acid, it
seem to me that, at most, the substitution needs only a field approval.
About the only problem is the difference in weigh, and CofG.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
& Jacqui Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:00 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Jim & Moe,
Whats the battery story?
I assume that you want to replace the large battery with something
lighter.
I have two G35 batteries in place of the G50. Aero Commander did a
service mod years ago. All I did was substitute modern batteries for the
models they used. Have all the paperwork here somewhere.
If you are interested I will find it and forward it.
Cheers
Richard
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:22 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Moe,
I am not able to go but am glad you are.
I pestered John to death about the battery set up and he has lost
his contacts with the FAA. My AI is going to see if we can use two 12
aircraft gell cell batteries. It is sad that the FAA does not have
anyone with enough back bone to say yes.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:17 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Folks,
Is anyone other than Linn and Myself going to the NRA convention
this week in Phoenix? We will be flying N680RR down on Thursday.
Moe Mills
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Jim Addington
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Every city, state and country that has banded guns has seen a big
increase in crime. If you go to the CHL class and work hard to get it
you are not going to do something stupid to lose it, plus, you know
better what you can do and had better not do. All the signs that say no
guns allowed are telling the crooks that this is a safe place to rob.
Jim
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Feldtman
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:11 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
fyi ---
State Representative Joe Driver (R-Garland) would allow Concealed
Handgun Licensees to protect themselves on the campuses of public
colleges and universities. Campus settings are not "crime-free" zones.
Adult students, faculty, staff and visitors who are 21 or older, who
pass an extensive state and federal criminal records check, and who
complete a rigorous handgun training course, should not be denied their
right to self-defense simply because they study, live, work on or visit
a college or university campus. CHLs have been lawfully carrying
handguns for protection virtually everywhere in Texas for more than a
dozen years, and there is no statistical data or evidence that they
would suddenly transform into irresponsible criminals if legally allowed
to enter a college or university setting.
This important self-defense reform needs to pass this year, before
the anti-gun extremists in Washington gain momentum that filters down to
the state level. Please call and email your State Representatives and
urge them to SUPPORT HB 1893 on the House floor and to OPPOSE any
amendments not supported by the bill sponsor.
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Steve W <steve2@sover.net> wrote:
Agreed in principle Nico. I've approved of family packing when
appropriate, and I know of a couple instances where friends and family
both have only had to display some heat to turn away bad people
intending to do harm. It is appropriate and constitutionally protected
to be able to reasonably defend oneself.
I do think there is a problem inherent in the advance of the
technology of 'arms'. When the framers wrote our founding documents, one
man with a muzzle loading musket would have a difficult time killing two
people. But now it is possible to quickly and efficiently kill lots more
people faster. Virginia Tech was 30 something people? Binghamton was 13,
Alabama was 10 or eleven? This wsn't done with a Peacemaker. Hundreds of
rounds can be fired in minutes. We're now seeing mass killings as a
regular occurrence and it isn't even registering, or if it is at all its
seen as further evidence we need easier access to more lethal weapons.
The point Nico, is that while I am guaranteed the right to arms,
does this right extend without limit? Its just odd how people have been
completely inflexible and absolutist when it comes to some
constitutional rights, yet perfectly willing to give up on others in the
name of being kept safe from terrorist bad guys. Its that fear and
safety thing again, maybe. Having easy and unlimited access to any and
all weapons make one 'feel' safer, while at the same time on a
macrocosmic scale increasing the likelyhood of being killed by them.
You could perform a robbery or murder with a 38 special, or maybe
defend yourself, but we're seeing something different happening now. I
don't have answers, maybe only questions.
Steve
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From: nico css
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Come on, Steve. Nobody is going to shoot someone solely because
there is a gun in his hand. If there is enough motive and demeanor, a
killing is fixed, gun or not. Knowing the other guy might also be
packing heat has been proven to be an instant sedative.
You would be much more inclined to seek peace with your neighbor
through other means, even reasoning with him or getting to like 'new'
country music, if you know he has the same hardware that you do. With
gun control, you never know what he hides and what he is capable of
doing knowing all you have is your cell phone with 911 on your speed
dial.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:34 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
Yes. We were set up as a Republic and should remain so. That's why
it was so odd during the last administration to watch so called
conservatives cheerleading the seizing and consolidation of Exexcutive
and Federal power. It's a great idea if its your guy and in the name of
keeping you safe, but no one seemed to consider it might not always be
their guy and the rules were set up with the bigger picture in mind.
Lower the bar for a President you like, allow him to bypass rule of law
and courts, and then panic because the next one you don't like may
inherit those similar powers.
I don't know how one avoids having to read the Constitution and
determining how to apply the thing. It took over a hundred years for
folks to wonder if all men created equal meant women too. Two hundred
years later some folks figured they couldn't have meant black people
also? Naw...... At the time this looked like a new and activist
interpretation to many, and maybe it was. Real freedom isn't just for
things I like and approve of.
Keep and bear arms. I'm in a bad mood with an itchy trigger finger
and my neighbors playing that vapid 'new' country music again. Even with
slugs, the pump 20 isn't a big enough threat. Can I keep a 105mm trained
on his house 24 hours a day?
Sooner or later Milt is going to form his Commander list posse and
come to get me. If the land mines don't get him first, I've been mixing
up home-made anthrax, with scrapings from glowing watches and baby poop.
Sure to stop him dead in his tracks...... Is that protected?
Are Federal drug laws ok? What do I care if someone is growing
weed in their outhouse.
It is very reassuring to hear of the exodus to Texas. God knows
they've got the room. But what are you going to do about Austin?
Steve
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From: Robert Feldtman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
that's why the founders set up a Republic - each state has it's
own autonomy - except what the constitution says in clear black and
white. it is NOT a living document for interpretation. I suggest we all
re-read that document.
I've seen more "out of state" license plates here in Texas in
the last three months than I have ever seen before. Has the exodus
quietly begun?
The Republic of Texas won't have GA user fees! And I can go back
to carrying heat in the plane.
bobf
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Steve W <steve2@sover.net>
wrote:
<steve2@sover.net>
I wasn't going to spoil it for David. He's a good sport. And
Nico had written a very well thought out post. Even Milt wrote a smart
and well balanced one. (Until the other one about the Militia guys
maybe not being wackos. They are wackos but should be left alone. And
New England and California? That's like mixing a New England version of
the Waltons with Baywatch.)
That piece was written to inflame passion, anger and fear; and
the real author knew exactly what buttons to push to do so. There is
such crazy assed shit being said on all sides, but hardly anyone seems
to care if what is said is true or not. I remember pissing off a bunch
of the far left about ten years ago over an environmental and farming
issue when I had to learn the facts instead of parroting back the crap
that was then coming through as faxes.
I learned people were less interested in the truth than
reinforcing something they already chose to believe. So a work program
becomes evidence of an evil plot designed to create an army of Obama
supporters who will seize power and make you honkies listen to better
music and eat salad.
It so often comes down to the manipulation and reinforcement of
fear. Fear of loss, fear for safety, and the constant warnings now from
so many sources pointing out new and dire threats. (I wonder, are pilots
as a class more vigilant to identification of threat.) I'm not going to
sacrifice everything that's best about us, pervert my values and live in
perpetual fear because we're threatened.
To hell with political parties and the moronic sides they make
people take. But if a State wants to try some really, really stupid
ideas and opt out of Federal laws and programs, I think they should be
allowed to. Like now, if the citizens of Texas think guns are really too
hard to get and want to opt out of Federal laws designed to keep guns
from bad guys, and automatic weapons off the streets... Go for it. Give
it a wack and see if if you like it.
I think much of the time it is less right and left than it is
rural sensibilities against city requirements. When we were just
frontier and people were spread out common sense and little interference
makes more sense. With you people breeding like rabbits, too much of the
population is packed together like sardines. I'm not so sure rural rules
would work in cities, and I wouldn't want to tell those folks what's
best for them. Likewise out in the sticks, I like being left alone.
I'll quit now. Been working on a major project way too many
weeks in a row. A little punchy.
(Note: the views above definately do not represent those of the
swell little company I work for.)
Please resume your regular programming.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum"
<john@vormbaum.com>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
<john@vormbaum.com>
As much as I loved reading this, alas, it wasn't written by
Kaiser. In fact,
nobody knows who wrote it except for the signature "TPS".
Bummer:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
David Owens
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:48 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: It is time...
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"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of
the world. I
hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
- Barack Obama
History Unfolding
I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15
books on
history that have been published in six languages, and I have
studied
history all my life. I have come to think there is something
monumentally
large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis,
or a
mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they
are merely
single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming
into a
sharper focus.
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it
because I
know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people
react to it..
Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something
happening within
our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen
years. The pace
has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our
banks make
massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
(JCS: Re above and below, I say in order to severlywound our
country and
our economy, and reduce our will to resist.)
We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has
little or no
real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars
(that is
$2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell
us to whom
or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine.
And that is
three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously
just this
past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are
the terms
unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I
thought this was a
government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our
elected leaders.
Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally
de-industrializing our
economy. Why?
We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our
history, and no
longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and
why we are
worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think
critically,
read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not
picketing,
school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close
election
(violently in California over a proposition that is so
controversial that it
simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and
one woman.
Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We
have
corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected
judges to write
laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream
Marxist
groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a
banana
republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in
free fall,
major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge
of
collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and
our entire
government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach
college and I
know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering
in its
length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...
And we are at
war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending
people of the
same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of
your
children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows
anything about,
who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as
big
asWasilla, Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are
with real
radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we
learn about
him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely
you have
heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory
civilian
defense force stronger than our military for use inside our
borders? No? Oh,
of course. The media would never play that for you over and over
and then
demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and
$150,000 wardrobe
are more important.)
Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word:
Change. Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children
as I am now.
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he
has never,
ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will
divide us
along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to
realign the pieces
into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed
coming. And when
it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
And that is only the beginning..
As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come
to experience
what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s.
In those
times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser
from the
streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.
What they
should have known was that he was associated with groups that
shouted,
shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he
edged his way
onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative
"losers" read
it right now.
And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people
were losing
jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and
waved a lot.
And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear
that his
"brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which
they did -
regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a
full-throttled
economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly,
but surely
he seized the controls of government power, person by person,
department by
department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German
citizens were
at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where
they were
taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do
so. No Jews of
course,
How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs
to the
jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the
military-industrial
complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating
gun control,
health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to
re-instill
pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the
world. He
did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did
this all in
the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely
got what
they voted for.
If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in
the history
books.
So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected
in 1933 and
were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed.
WhenWinston
Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated
in the
House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he
was booed into
his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.
And the
world came to regret that he was not listened to.
Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most
cultured country
in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals,
laboratories, and
universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time
span than just
two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own
citizens,
killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against
parents, and
neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions,
of course.
The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional
decisions, I have
a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of
evidence tell me
(even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what
history is
shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can
hope I am
wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring
what is
transpiring around me..
I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will
scoff at me,
others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some
degree, perhaps
I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and
tell them
exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.
I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is
our vote in
the next elections.
David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States
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Subject: | Re: Aero Commander - Winglets... |
I had both the flap gap seals and winglets done at the same time. The
flap gap seals will increase your take off roll (as I remember about 150
feet). One sage told me that if the winglets were to be installed then
the flap gap seals were a must as they would make up for the loss in
airspeed that the winglets would cause. This seems about right. Having
said this, if I had it to do over again I would have both installed
because the winglets sure do improve the ramp presence of the plane.
They are so cool that you almost don't notice that a large portion of
the paint job is missing.
Moe Mills
N680RR
680Fp
Proud holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: David Fitzgerald
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aero Commander - Winglets...
I got both done at the same time on my 500S and together they got me 10
knots extra TAS
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of craig
kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aero Commander - Winglets...
If the response could also include opinions/data on the flap gap
seals as well please!
Craig
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Marcos Della <mdella@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Marcos Della <mdella@gmail.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Aero Commander - Winglets...
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 9:51 AM
Didn't know if this was an airplane mailing list or a gunsite
mailing list :-)
Anyway, does anyone have experiance with winglets and the 560 Aero
Commander? That is, are they worth the cost, who has the best
setup/STC/whatever for justification...
I have a torn apart 560 that I'm in the process of restoring (have
been for a couple of years) and am slowly working through areas that
might be considered unusual for the older Aero Commanders...
Marcos
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Subject: | Re: Aero Commander - Winglets... |
Winglets look great, but an no performance gain, maybe a very small loss.? I have
them on my Commander 680E and love the way they look.? Gap seals on the other
hand do work as advertised.? The will improve the cruse about 3-5 kts.? The
down side is they hurt the short field performance some, noticeably.? I would
still install them.? Even from the short (1700) fields I fly from, the airplanes
work fine.? What model 560 do you fly??? I am not certain that either upgrade
is available on the straight 560.? jb
-----Original Message-----
From: craig kennedy <white_rhino_ps@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:00 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aero Commander - Winglets...
If the response could also include opinions/data on the flap gap seals as well
please!
Craig
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Marcos Della <mdella@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Marcos Della <mdella@gmail.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Aero Commander - Winglets...
Didn't know if this was an airplane mailing list or a gunsite mailing list :-)
Anyway, does anyone have experiance with winglets and the 560 Aero Commander??
That is, are they worth the cost, who has the best setup/STC/whatever for justification...
I have a torn apart 560 that I'm in the process of restoring (have been for a couple
of years) and am slowly working through areas that might be considered unusual
for the older Aero Commanders...
Marcos
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HI KIDS.
There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large
(very expensive) G-50C.? There is an old Commander?service letter (#52), from
1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry.? I found this gem about
2 months after I replaced the G-50C?($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!!? Oh
well.? If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy.? The substitution of
PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry.? jb
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