---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/18/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:36 AM - Re: 2 12V BATTERIES (Bill Hamilton) 2. 04:55 AM - Winglets for Straight 560 (Russell Legg) 3. 11:49 AM - (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 4. 06:11 PM - Re: 2 12V BATTERIES (nico css) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:59 AM PST US From: "Bill Hamilton" Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES http://www.batterymart.com/p-hawker-sbs-J16-aircraft-battery.html Folks, The above shows a Hawker Odyssey battery described as an "aircraft battery", they are similar to the Hawker Genesis we mostly use down here. Seems to me that a conversion from old fashioned Gill/Concorde wet lead acid shouldn't be too much problem. There are a string of STCs for the more "up market" 24 volt Hawker batteries for Commanders, 680/690, but they are probably priced similarly to the dinosaur batteries. CASA ( Campaign Against Sustainable Aviation) in Australia is generally regarded as far more difficult to get along with, compared to FAA, so a 337 conversion should not represent too much of a problem, with a copy of SL 52 in hand, and the price/performance/life/zero-zilch-nil maintenance is very attractive. Two 12v Genesis as above will run maybe $300, two of the above around $300. Cheers, Bill Hamilton From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES JB, Please send me a copy of old Commander service letter # 52. moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com Thanks! Moe Mills Member in Good Standing & Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award. From: yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES HI KIDS. There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C. There is an old Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry. I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!! Oh well. If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy. The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry. jb _____ We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:28 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Winglets for Straight 560 From: Russell Legg Hi Folks, Commander Aero has the necessary approval for fitting Aerodyne Winglets to the Straight 560 model. As recently as last year they fitted a set to a much modified Straight 560. Visit their website or contact Gary Kromer. Cheers Russell ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:19 AM PST US From: MASON CHEVAILLIER Subject: Commander-List: All=2C Please be advisd that N70QT (formerlly 2001M) 680Fp w/ MrRPM convers ion=2C is for sale. If interested please contact me at 817-877-4977 or mob 817-517-4977. Mason ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:32 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES Bill, is that CASA business an activist group bent on sabotaging aviation? Their name sounds ambiguous. _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hamilton Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:36 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES http://www.batterymart.com/p-hawker-sbs-J16-aircraft-battery.html Folks, The above shows a Hawker Odyssey battery described as an "aircraft battery", they are similar to the Hawker Genesis we mostly use down here. Seems to me that a conversion from old fashioned Gill/Concorde wet lead acid shouldn't be too much problem. There are a string of STCs for the more "up market" 24 volt Hawker batteries for Commanders, 680/690, but they are probably priced similarly to the dinosaur batteries. CASA ( Campaign Against Sustainable Aviation) in Australia is generally regarded as far more difficult to get along with, compared to FAA, so a 337 conversion should not represent too much of a problem, with a copy of SL 52 in hand, and the price/performance/life/zero-zilch-nil maintenance is very attractive. Two 12v Genesis as above will run maybe $300, two of the above around $300. Cheers, Bill Hamilton From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES JB, Please send me a copy of old Commander service letter # 52. moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com Thanks! Moe Mills Member in Good Standing & Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award. From: yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: Commander-List: 2 12V BATTERIES HI KIDS. There was a post about the installation of 2 12V batteries in place of the large (very expensive) G-50C. There is an old Commander service letter (#52), from 1962, that allows that change with only a logbook entry. I found this gem about 2 months after I replaced the G-50C ($750.00) IN MY OWN AIRPLANE!!!!!! Oh well. If you are a TCFG member, I will get you a copy. The substitution of PMAed Gel Cells would not require anything beyond a log entry. jb _____ We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? 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