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1. 07:38 AM - Re: Sump Drain valve for 680F (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
2. 07:43 AM - Re: Sump Drain valve for 680F (Scottmain2003@aol.com)
3. 08:28 AM - Re: Sump Drain valve for 680F (Tom Fisher)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: Sump Drain valve for 680F (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
5. 12:55 PM - In the spirit of this holiday (nico css)
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Subject: | Sump Drain valve for 680F |
Hi Moe,
Thanks for the response. I think the challenge will be to get the valve
removed and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the place.
And then re-installing it. Any suggestions, short of de-fueling the
tank..??
Randy
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Randy,
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door under the
wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to shut off the
fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early Hilborn
Injectors in about 1972. Meaning that it was military surplus. Most likely
the valve needs to be removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts book,
which is a very good thing..........................
Regards.
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Randy <mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net> Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump, the valve did not
close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard. After opening and
closing several times, the dripping stopped. I have not opened the valve
since, for fear of it sticking open again. Has anybody experienced this
situation..?? I was unable to identify the valve in my parts manual. Is it
the same in all Commanders..?? I may need a replacement valve. Anyone have
one..?? Thanks.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F / N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Subject: | Re: Sump Drain valve for 680F |
That sump is the low spot in the system. get a bunch of gerry cans and
drain it dry. I know........someone stole all my gas one night. wasn't a drop
left.
In a message dated 5/24/2009 10:39:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
Hi Moe,
Thanks for the response. I think the challenge will be to get the valve
removed and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the place.
And then re-installing it. Any suggestions, short of de-fueling the
tank..??
Randy
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Randy,
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door under
the wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to shut off
the fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early Hilborn
Injectors in about 1972. Meaning that it was military surplus. Most likely the
valve needs to be removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts book,
which is a very good thing..........................
Regards.
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: _Randy Dettmer, AIA_ (mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net)
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump, the valve did not
close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard. After opening and
closing several times, the dripping stopped. I have not opened the valve
since, for fear of it sticking open again. Has anybody experienced this
situation..?? I was unable to identify the valve in my parts manual. Is it
the same in all Commanders..?? I may need a replacement valve. Anyone have
one..?? Thanks.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F / N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Subject: | Re: Sump Drain valve for 680F |
Drain the tank, you don't want to fool around with combustibles under
your loved possession.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Hi Moe,
Thanks for the response. I think the challenge will be to get the
valve removed and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the
place. And then re-installing it. Any suggestions, short of de-fueling
the tank..??
Randy
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Randy,
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door
under the wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to
shut off the fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early
Hilborn Injectors in about 1972. Meaning that it was military surplus.
Most likely the valve needs to be removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts
book, which is a very good thing..........................
Regards.
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:57 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump, the valve did
not close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard. After
opening and closing several times, the dripping stopped. I have not
opened the valve since, for fear of it sticking open again. Has anybody
experienced this situation..?? I was unable to identify the valve in my
parts manual. Is it the same in all Commanders..?? I may need a
replacement valve. Anyone have one..?? Thanks.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F / N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Subject: | Sump Drain valve for 680F |
Thanks guys. Good reason to go for a flight to burn up most of the fuel
from the center tank before draining in to jugs. Randy.
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Drain the tank, you don't want to fool around with combustibles under your
loved possession.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy <mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net> Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Hi Moe,
Thanks for the response. I think the challenge will be to get the valve
removed and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the place.
And then re-installing it. Any suggestions, short of de-fueling the
tank..??
Randy
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Randy,
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door under the
wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to shut off the
fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early Hilborn
Injectors in about 1972. Meaning that it was military surplus. Most likely
the valve needs to be removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts book,
which is a very good thing..........................
Regards.
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Randy <mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net> Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump, the valve did not
close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard. After opening and
closing several times, the dripping stopped. I have not opened the valve
since, for fear of it sticking open again. Has anybody experienced this
situation..?? I was unable to identify the valve in my parts manual. Is it
the same in all Commanders..?? I may need a replacement valve. Anyone have
one..?? Thanks.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F / N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Subject: | In the spirit of this holiday |
I thought I'd share this with you all.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls
and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms,
dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -
Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
One of the serious problems in planning the fight against American doctrine,
is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any
obligation to follow their doctrine...- From a Soviet Junior Lt's Notebook
"The best tank terrain is that without anti-tank weapons." -Russian military
doctrine.
..At a prewar diplomatic conference, the Nazi Foreign Minister Ribbentrop
"sniffed" to Eden and Churchill that if there was another war, the Italians
would be on Germany's side! To which Churchill supposedly replied: "that
seems only fair, we had them last time!"...
"The reason the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos,
and the American Army practices it on a daily basis." - from a post-war
debriefing of a German General
Memorial Day Toasts & Quotes
"To her we drink, for her we pray, our voices silent never.
For her we'll fight -- let come what may, The Stars and Stripes forever."
"Here's to the Army and Navy, and the battles they have won. Here's to
America's colors-- The colors that never run!"
"May the tree of liberty flourish round the globe, and every human being
partake of its fruits."
"May noise never excite us to battle, or confusions reduce us to defeat."
EULOGY FOR A VETERAN
Do not stand at my grave and weep.
I am not there, I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the Gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the mornings hush,
I am the swift uplifting rush
of quiet birds in circled flight,
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there, I did not die.
(Author unknown)
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