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Subject: | Sump Drain valve for 680F |
I have replaced the drain valves in 70QT w/ the easy and rebuildable cessna
drains. they work very well. Ck w/ gary Kromer at commander aero for par
ts and paper work. gmc
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
I have removed several with the airplane fueled=2C you need to be careful
=2C well organized and fast!! jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Sent: Sun=2C 24 May 2009 8:27 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Drain the tank=2C you don't want to fool around with combustibles under you
r loved possession.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Dettmer=2C AIA
Sent: Sunday=2C May 24=2C 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Hi Moe=2C
Thanks for the response. I think the challenge will be to get the valve re
moved and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the place. An
d then re-installing it. Any suggestions=2C short of de-fueling the tank..
??
Randy
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo=2C CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday=2C May 23=2C 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Randy=2C
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door under th
e wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to shut off the
fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early Hilborn Inject
ors in about 1972. Meaning that it was military surplus. Most likely the
valve needs to be removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts book=2C
which is a very good thing..........................
Regards.
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Randy Dettmer=2C AIA
Sent: Saturday=2C May 23=2C 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump=2C the valve did not
close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard. After opening and
closing several times=2C the dripping stopped. I have not opened the valve
since=2C for fear of it sticking open again. Has anybody experienced this
situation..?? I was unable to identify the valve in my parts manual. Is
it the same in all Commanders..?? I may need a replacement valve. Anyone
have one..?? Thanks.
Randy Dettmer=2C AIA
680F / N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo=2C CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Subject: | Prop Locks on 690 Commander |
Has anyone out there had a prop lock string retainer come off with engine
running ? This happened to my TPE 331 -10 . It appears that the spring
pressure and centrifugal force of the retainer was all pressing against the
cotter pin .The pin sheared off and the spring and retain fell out of my
spinner as the engine ran down ..cotter pin was cad plated ,should it be
stainless??? N674NM
Nicolas E. Martin
Martin Container, Inc.
1402 E. Lomita Blvd.
Wilmington, Ca 90748
Tel: 310-830-5000, Fax : 310-830-2562
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Thanks guys. Good reason to go for a flight to burn up most of the fuel
from the center tank before draining in to jugs. Randy.
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Drain the tank, you don't want to fool around with combustibles under your
loved possession.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy <mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net> Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Hi Moe,
Thanks for the response. I think the challenge will be to get the valve
removed and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the place.
And then re-installing it. Any suggestions, short of de-fueling the
tank..??
Randy
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
Randy,
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door under the
wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to shut off the
fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early Hilborn
Injectors in about 1972. Meaning that it was military surplus. Most likely
the valve needs to be removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts book,
which is a very good thing..........................
Regards.
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
From: Randy <mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net> Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump, the valve did not
close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard. After opening and
closing several times, the dripping stopped. I have not opened the valve
since, for fear of it sticking open again. Has anybody experienced this
situation..?? I was unable to identify the valve in my parts manual. Is it
the same in all Commanders..?? I may need a replacement valve. Anyone have
one..?? Thanks.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F / N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Subject: | Re: Prop Locks on 690 Commander |
Nope, I have however had the springs beak and the pins stick.=C2- In eth
er case the propeller will feather.=C2- jb
Has anyone out there had a prop lock string retainer come off with engine
running ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Martin <nick@container.com>
Sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 9:59 am
Subject: Commander-List: Prop Locks on 690 Commander
Has anyone out there had a prop lock string retainer come off with engine
running ? This happened to my TPE 331 -10 . It appears that the spring pr
essure and centrifugal force of the retainer was all pressing against the
cotter pin .The pin sheared off and the spring and retain fell out of my
spinner as the engine ran down .cotter pin was cad plated ,shoul
d it be stainless??? N674NM
=C2-
Nicolas E. Martin
Martin Container, Inc.
1402 E. Lomita Blvd.
Wilmington, Ca 90748
Tel: 310-830-5000, Fax : 310-830-2562
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
=C2-
Thanks guys.=C2- Good reason to go for a flight to burn up most of the
fuel from the center tank before draining in to jugs.=C2- Randy.
=C2-
=C2-
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA=C2- 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
=C2-
From: owner-commande
r-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.
com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
=C2-
Drain the tank, you don't want to fool around with combustibles under your
loved possession.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
=C2-
Hi Moe,
Thanks for the response.=C2- I think the challenge will be to get the va
lve removed and the fuel line capped without spraying gas all over the pla
ce.=C2- And then re-installing it.=C2- Any suggestions, short of de-fu
eling the tank..??
=C2-
Randy
=C2-
=C2-
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA=C2- 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
=C2-
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe-rosspistons
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
=C2-
Randy,
=C2-
This valve (the twist valve that you access through the small door under
the wing) looks suspiciously like the Eelco valve that I used to shut off
the fuel in my D Altered 57 Chevy. Drag Car equipped with early Hilborn
Injectors=C2-in about 1972
.=C2- Meaning that it was military surplus.=C2-=C2-Most likely=C2-
the valve needs to be=C2-removed and new "o" rings installed.
You are correct that the valve is not listed in the Commander parts book,
which is a very good thing..........................
=C2-
Regards.
=C2-
Moe
N680RR
Proud Holder of The Golden Pedal Award
=C2-
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Sump Drain valve for 680F
=C2-
The last time I drained fuel from the center tank sump, the valve did not
close completely and fuel continued to drip overboard.=C2- After openin
g and closing several times, the dripping stopped.=C2- I have not opened
the valve since, for fear of it sticking open again.=C2- Has anybody ex
perienced this situation..??=C2- I was unable to identify the valve in
my parts manual.=C2- Is it the same in all Commanders..??=C2- I may
need a replacement valve.=C2- Anyone have one..??=C2- Thanks.
=C2-
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F / N6253X
=C2-
=C2-
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA=C2- 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
=C2-
date.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
2/4/2009 4:35 PM
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