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1. 06:08 AM - Re: Winglets (Stan)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: Winglets (Tom Fisher)
3. 07:57 AM - Re: Winglets (swperk@earthlink.net)
4. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Commanders (Bill Kirkwood)
5. 11:51 AM - Re: Winglets (Tom Fisher)
6. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Commanders (Barry Collman)
7. 05:40 PM - Commander 680 FLP (Ray Mansfield)
8. 08:19 PM - Re: Commander 680 FLP (Robert S. Randazzo)
9. 09:07 PM - Re: Commander 680 FLP+ HYDRAULIC fAILURE (Wiliam Boelte)
Message 1
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Hi Tom,
Are you looking for both or just one? If it's just one, which side do you
need?
Regards,
Stan
From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
Thanks Barry, I am still hoping that there might be a surplus one out
there from a retired (read wrecked) Commander.
Tom.
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Collman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
Hi Tom,
You need to contact Commander-Aero, at Dayton-Wright Brothers airport,
Ohio.
(www.commander-aero.com)
Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Winglets
Hey folks, who should I contact for winglet information?
Tom
C-GISS
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Both.
Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Are you looking for both or just one? If it's just one, which side do you
> need?
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
> From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>
> Thanks Barry, I am still hoping that there might be a surplus one out
> there from a retired (read wrecked) Commander.
> Tom.
> C-GISS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry Collman
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> You need to contact Commander-Aero, at Dayton-Wright Brothers airport,
> Ohio.
> (www.commander-aero.com)
>
> Best Regards,
> Barry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Fisher
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: Winglets
>
>
> Hey folks, who should I contact for winglet information?
>
> Tom
> C-GISS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Tom,
I asked because I have the right-hand winglet from an 840, but not the left-hand
one. I don't know if it would even fit your application, but if you need it
(or know someone who does) let me know.
Regards,
Stan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>Sent: Jul 7, 2009 6:38 AM
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>
>
>Both.
>Tom.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:07 AM
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>
>
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> Are you looking for both or just one? If it's just one, which side do you
>> need?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stan
>>
>> From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>>
>> Thanks Barry, I am still hoping that there might be a surplus one out
>> there from a retired (read wrecked) Commander.
>> Tom.
>> C-GISS
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Barry Collman
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>>
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> You need to contact Commander-Aero, at Dayton-Wright Brothers airport,
>> Ohio.
>> (www.commander-aero.com)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Barry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tom Fisher
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Commander-List: Winglets
>>
>>
>> Hey folks, who should I contact for winglet information?
>>
>> Tom
>> C-GISS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Also 560E, N4618E, stored for over a year near El Paso, TX, is back with
new engines and props.
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 10:44 -0700, craig kennedy wrote:
> Hello gang,
>
> Just thought I would update the group that 560F N747H, stored for over
> a year in the middle of nowhere (Paris, TX), is running again with
> rebuilt engines and props. Richard Cam at Aeroquest did a great job
> getting all the problems sorted out. Just a few more days to tidy up
> the remaining issues and she should be up for fun and adventure.
> Maybe even a trip for the annual get together.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
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Well I need (want) the pair but now the word is out for yours, thanks.
Tom...
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: <swperk@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I asked because I have the right-hand winglet from an 840, but not the
> left-hand one. I don't know if it would even fit your application, but if
> you need it (or know someone who does) let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>>Sent: Jul 7, 2009 6:38 AM
>>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>>
>><tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>>
>>Both.
>>Tom.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
>>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Are you looking for both or just one? If it's just one, which side do
>>> you
>>> need?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stan
>>>
>>> From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>>>
>>> Thanks Barry, I am still hoping that there might be a surplus one out
>>> there from a retired (read wrecked) Commander.
>>> Tom.
>>> C-GISS
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Barry Collman
>>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Winglets
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> You need to contact Commander-Aero, at Dayton-Wright Brothers airport,
>>> Ohio.
>>> (www.commander-aero.com)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Barry
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Tom Fisher
>>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:30 PM
>>> Subject: Commander-List: Winglets
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey folks, who should I contact for winglet information?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> C-GISS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hi Bill & Craig,
Good news guys!
I'm sure we all agree that to hear of two Commanders restored to an
airworthy condition is great to hear.
Bill's 560E was owned from new for nearly 10 years by Douglas Aircraft
Co/McDonnell Douglas.
Craig's 560F was owned for just over 40 years by a single owner, Hoover
Inc., of Nashville, Tennessee.
Hope to see them both at Reno!
Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Kirkwood" <bkirkwoo@elp.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commanders
<bkirkwoo@elp.rr.com>
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| Also 560E, N4618E, stored for over a year near El Paso, TX, is back
with new engines and props.
|
| On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 10:44 -0700, craig kennedy wrote:
| > Hello gang,
| >
| > Just thought I would update the group that 560F N747H, stored for
over a year in the middle of nowhere (Paris, TX), is running again with
| > rebuilt engines and props.
| > Richard Cam at Aeroquest did a great job getting all the problems
sorted out.
| > Just a few more days to tidy up the remaining issues and she should
be up for fun and adventure.
| > Maybe even a trip for the annual get together.
| >
| > Craig
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| Subject: | Commander 680 FLP |
Clear DayHello Commander website folks,
The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some
corrosion has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount. The
maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.
Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount. I don't know the details,
part nos, etc. If you have knowledge of where such an animal can be
found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our
maintenance guy at 256-845-9129. He's the owner of Valley Aviation in
Ft. Payne, AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.
You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.
A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion. I
recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine
wheel well broke. It broke at the flange where the line was secured by
the nut to the connector. I can't describe the part other than it was
normal aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve
and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel
well. We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering.
Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway there. Coasted into
the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop. No
damage to plane or pax. The boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.
You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a
680FLP. Call me if you want more details.
Ray Mansfield
850-217-5185
N91ES
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| Subject: | Commander 680 FLP |
Ray-
Can you send a photo of the offending segment? That would help some of us
with similar systems to identify and learn.
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Mansfield
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP
Hello Commander website folks,
The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some corrosion
has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount. The maintenance
folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.
Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount. I don't know the details,
part nos, etc. If you have knowledge of where such an animal can be found
or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our maintenance guy
at 256-845-9129. He's the owner of Valley Aviation in Ft. Payne, AL and
knows part nos and details about the engine mount.
You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.
A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion. I recently
lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine wheel well
broke. It broke at the flange where the line was secured by the nut to the
connector. I can't describe the part other than it was normal aluminium
tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve and was in front of
the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel well. We lost all
hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering. Landed at Birmingham,
AL....there's a long runway there. Coasted into the grass between the
taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop. No damage to plane or pax. The
boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.
You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a 680FLP.
Call me if you want more details.
Ray Mansfield
850-217-5185
N91ES
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 680 FLP+ HYDRAULIC fAILURE |
Clear Day I experienced a complete hydraulic failure three weeks ago. I
noticed the hydraulic pressure fluctuating between 500 and 450 psi. I
pulled the Aux. Hyd. Circuit Breaker and saved some fluid. I didn't
follow Wing Commander Gordon's advice- Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima
Culpa.
I was surprised how slow one must fly for the nose wheel to extend.
About 80 kts. Made a no flap, landing and held the nose off until about
30 kts. and turned off of the runway. I had a little hydraulic fluid
left and the Aux. Hyd. Pump provided some brakes. Once clear of the
runway, I shut it down and got a tow to the ramp.
The culprit was the hydraulic pressure switch in the left nacelle under
the Hydraulic Reservoir. There was no metal in the filter but we changed
both pumps and replaced the switch. There was also a small leak in a
hydraulic line similar to the one described by Ray Mayfield; we changed
that one also.
Kindest regards,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert S. Randazzo
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, 07 July, 2009 22:18
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP
Ray-
Can you send a photo of the offending segment? That would help some
of us with similar systems to identify and learn.
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Mansfield
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:40 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP
Hello Commander website folks,
The plane I fly is going through it's annual inspection and some
corrosion has been found on the left engine, left side motor mount. The
maintenance folks say it's bad enough that the mount must be replaced.
Sooooooo.....we're looking for a motor mount. I don't know the
details, part nos, etc. If you have knowledge of where such an animal
can be found or think you might have one, please call Brent Cowart, our
maintenance guy at 256-845-9129. He's the owner of Valley Aviation in
Ft. Payne, AL and knows part nos and details about the engine mount.
You can also email me or call with any information if that's easier.
A note to any Aero Commander 680FLP owners, MR RPM conversion. I
recently lost all hydraulics when a small hyd line in the left engine
wheel well broke. It broke at the flange where the line was secured by
the nut to the connector. I can't describe the part other than it was
normal aluminium tubing, not very long, about 4-5" with a compount curve
and was in front of the accumulator in the aft area of the left wheel
well. We lost all hydraulic fluid, gear, flaps, brakes and steering.
Landed at Birmingham, AL....there's a long runway there. Coasted into
the grass between the taxiway and ramp otherwise couldn't stop. No
damage to plane or pax. The boss was on board, but he's a cool guy.
You might want to check for cracked hydraulic lines if you have a
680FLP. Call me if you want more details.
Ray Mansfield
850-217-5185
N91ES
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