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1. 08:09 AM - Re: Fly-In (yourtcfg@aol.com)
2. 08:51 AM - Re: Simulated single-engine settings (Chris)
3. 10:51 AM - Re: Simulated single-engine settings (BobsV35B@aol.com)
4. 11:24 AM - Fw: PROPS (yourtcfg@aol.com)
5. 02:23 PM - Re: PROPS (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
6. 06:34 PM - low suction mystery (Gary Moshluk)
7. 07:19 PM - Re: PROPS (yourtcfg@aol.com)
8. 09:39 PM - Re: low suction mystery (yourtcfg@aol.com)
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Hi Barry, et al:
Good questions and ones that others on the chatlist may want to know, so we're
putting the info out for all to see.
1.? There ARE a couple of seats left in box seating and yes, the price is $325
for the entire event.
2.? Commanders will be parking at Sterling Air.? There is some construction going
on at the airport which may require some back taxiing.? I will be there all
day Wednesday with a hand held radio to direct the Commanders.? The physical
address for Sterling Air is 2640 College Parkway, Carson City, Nevada.? There
IS a small tie down fee so be sure to pay before departing.? There is both full?and
self-service fuel at the airport with full service being arranged through
El Aero.? We are in the process of negotiating with?El Aero to give the same
price for full service fuel truck as the self serve and will keep you apprised.?
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3.? For thos of you renting cars at the Carson City Airport they can be picked
up at El Aero which is right next to the Terminal Bldg.? Be sure to let Enterprise
know you want to pick up your car at El Aero's southside location as they
have a couple of locations on the airport.?
4.? Wednesday night's welcome dinner and Thursday's seminars will be held in the
terminal bldg right next door to Sterling Air and the physical address is 2600
E College Parkway.?
5.? The address for Hampton Inn is 10 Hospitality Way (although our GPS didn't
recognize this address.? However it is right off of 395 so pretty easy to find.?
If anyone has additional questions, don't hesitate to ask.? Looking forward to
seeing everyone again and meeting new friends.?
~Jim & Sue Metzger
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 3:53 am
Subject: Fly-In
Hi JimBob,
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I've got a few questions about the Fly-In.
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1.
Are any seats still available in "the box" and am I right in thinking they're $325?
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2.
Where will the Commanders be parking at Carson City?
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3.
Can you let me know the name of the organisation whose facility they'll be parked
at?
Their address?will be useful to key into my SatNav.
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Very Best Regards,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Simulated single-engine settings |
BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> Choose a MP that is about an inch below what it took to get to the
> governing range.
I've used that technique as well Bob. I've compared carefully measured
performance with one actually feathered (which I do occasionally for
practice) to your method and the numbers are certainly close enough to
provide valid simulation.
For my two cents, I think some practice with one engine at idle (more
drag then actually feathered) is valuable too. Dragging one around in
that configuration for a while makes the real thing feel a lot easier.
I also do occasionally make landings (under safe conditions of course)
with one actually feathered. Landings ARE different with an actual
feathered engine versus simulated zero thrust.
chris
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| Subject: | Re: Simulated single-engine settings |
Me Too Chris!
That's why I said higher and lower powers are often handy for training
purposes.<G>
As Always, It All Depends!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 8/31/2009 10:52:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
cschuerm@cox.net writes:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> Choose a MP that is about an inch below what it took to get to the
> governing range.
I've used that technique as well Bob. I've compared carefully measured
performance with one actually feathered (which I do occasionally for
practice) to your method and the numbers are certainly close enough to
provide valid simulation.
For my two cents, I think some practice with one engine at idle (more
drag then actually feathered) is valuable too. Dragging one around in
that configuration for a while makes the real thing feel a lot easier.
I also do occasionally make landings (under safe conditions of course)
with one actually feathered. Landings ARE different with an actual
feathered engine versus simulated zero thrust.
chris
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Hi All,
The 680 props have been sold and delivered, but I still have a set of beautiful
props that fit either a 520, 560 or 56A (no recurring AD note).? They are ready
to ship complete with log books.? I also have spinners if interested.?
Give me a call 360-903-6901 if interested.
~jb
-----Original Message-----
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 9:21 pm
Subject: Commander-List: PROPS
HI KIDS... I am in Alabama picking up some really nice propellers.? I have a pair
of HC-MV20c propellers for a 680 with less than 100 hrs SINCE NEW!!!!!!? Good
condition.? I also have a pair of "MV" (no reoccurring AD) props with MV 8433
blades for the 560/560A with less than 410hr since new blades, hubs (consecutive
S/N)?and clamps.? Like new.? They are all?for sale.? Interested??? jb@360-903-6901.?
See ya at the fly-in!!!
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Will your spinners fit a 680 with the Metzger prop converson ?If so how
much for two spinners. Thanks Gil
In a message dated 8/31/2009 12:25:09 P.M. Central America Standard ,
yourtcfg@aol.com writes:
Hi All,
The 680 props have been sold and delivered, but I still have a set of
beautiful props that fit either a 520, 560 or 56A (no recurring AD note). They
are ready to ship complete with log books. I also have spinners if
interested.
Give me a call 360-903-6901 if interested.
~jb
-----Original Message-----
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 9:21 pm
Subject: Commander-List: PROPS
<WBR>HI KIDS... I am in Alabama picking up some really nice propel I have
a pair of HC-MV20c propellers for a 680 with less than 100 hrs SINCE
NEW!!!!!! Good condition. I also have a pair of "MV" (no reoccurring AD) props
with MV 8433 blades for the 560/560A with less than 410hr since new
blades, hubs (consecutive S/N) and clamps. Like new. They are all for sale.
Interested?? _jb@360-903-6901_ (mailto:jb@360-903-6901) . See ya at the
fly-in!!!
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| Subject: | low suction mystery |
To all Commander aficionados,
Having an issue with low suction specifically when running the left
engine alone. The right engine system is operating normally without the
left engine running producing about 4.2 Hg of suction. The left engine
alone will only produce 2.2 to 2.3 Hg max even at higher RPM settings.
I have a straight 560 fitted with dual wet suction pumps. The engine
driven vac pumps are piped to bulkhead fittings on each firewall into
the nacelle. The bulkhead fitting is connected to the regulator (via
hose and clamps). The regulator is "T"'d for attaching the low vacuum
switch and check valve, thence to the hardline forward to the instrument
panel. Ostensibly the dual check valves protect the operating vacuum
source from an open leak on the opposite side
When I rebuilt the instrument panel I relocated the engine gages,
centering them over/above the throttle pedestal to allow for a panel
mounted radio stack AND I added an artificial horizon, DG (airspeed and
altimeter) to the co-pilot side.
Harry Merrit sent me a used vacuum pump and regulator; both of which I
installed today. Best I can get off the left side vacuum pump is 2.2 HG
of suction. The regulator adjustments so far have had a negligible
effect on the suction pressure. I had thought up until today the
problem resided with the (engine driven) pump and/or regulator ahead of
the check valve in the left nacelle but the pump and regulator still
won't get me the required suction off the left side.
Anyone out there with a theory as to what I should be looking for?
Gary (c.s "Blaster")
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Sadly, no.? The "heavy Hartzell"? requires the larger spinners.? i may know where
there is a pair of those.? I'll check.? jb
-----Original Message-----
From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: PROPS
Will your spinners fit a 680 with the Metzger prop?converson ?If so how much for
two spinners. Thanks Gil
?
In a message dated 8/31/2009 12:25:09 P.M. Central America Standard , yourtcfg@aol.com
writes:
Hi All,
?
The 680 props have been sold and delivered, but I still have a set of beautiful
props that fit either a 520, 560 or 56A (no recurring AD note).? They are ready
to ship complete with log books.? I also have spinners if interested.?
?
Give me a call 360-903-6901 if interested.
?
~jb
-----Original Message-----
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 9:21 pm
Subject: Commander-List: PROPS
HI KIDS... I am in Alabama picking up some really nice propellers.? I have a pair
of HC-MV20c propellers for a 680 with less than 100 hrs SINCE NEW!!!!!!? Good
condition.? I also have a pair of "MV" (no reoccurring AD) props with MV 8433
blades for the 560/560A with less than 410hr since new blades, hubs (consecutive
S/N)?and clamps.? Like new.? They are all?for sale.? Interested??? jb@360-903-6901.?
See ya at the fly-in!!!
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| Subject: | Re: low suction mystery |
Sounds like a bad "used" pump??? Need a greaaaaat pair of props for your 560???
jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Moshluk <gmosh@charter.net>
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:26 pm
Subject: Commander-List: low suction mystery
To all Commander aficionados,
?
Having an issue with low suction specifically?when running the?left engine alone.?
The right engine system is operating normally without the left engine running
producing about 4.2 Hg of suction.? The left engine alone will only produce
2.2 to 2.3 Hg max?even at higher?RPM settings.
?
I have a straight 560 fitted with dual?wet suction pumps.?? The?engine driven vac
pumps?are piped to bulkhead fittings on?each firewall into the nacelle.? The
bulkhead fitting is connected?to the regulator (via hose and clamps).? The regulator?is
"T"'d??for attaching?the?low vacuum switch?and?check valve, thence
to the hardline forward?to the instrument panel.? Ostensibly the dual check valves
protect the operating vacuum source from an open leak on the opposite side
?
When I rebuilt the instrument panel I?relocated the engine gages, centering them?over/above
the throttle pedestal to allow for a panel mounted radio?stack AND
I added an artificial horizon, DG (airspeed and altimeter) to the co-pilot side.?
? ???
?
Harry Merrit?sent me?a used vacuum pump and regulator; both of which I installed
today.? Best I can get off the left side vacuum pump is 2.2 HG of suction.?
The regulator?adjustments so far have had a negligible effect on the suction pressure.?
I had thought up until today the problem resided with the (engine driven)
pump and/or regulator ahead of the check valve in the left nacelle but the
pump and regulator still won't get me the required suction off the left side.?
?
Anyone out there with a theory?as to?what I should be looking for?
?
Gary (c.s "Blaster")???
?
?
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