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Mon 11/02/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 03:41 AM - Re: Quiet appointments. Is this true? (Gary Moshluk)
     2. 08:09 AM - Re: Quiet appointments. Is this true? (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
     3. 08:55 AM - Re: Fw: Good Oshkosh Video (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
     4. 03:27 PM - Road Landing [from AVweb] (I guess they aren't going to publish this after all) (nico css)
     5. 09:54 PM - FW: Obamacare (nico css)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:41:08 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Moshluk" <gmosh@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Quiet appointments. Is this true?
    Nico, So much for growing into the job. These appointments must have been made on halloween! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css To: 'nico' Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Commander-List: Quiet appointments. Is this true? Remember his line in his book: If things go badly, I will stand with Islam. He is hedging his bets. Where do you think the preponderance of armed force is going to come from when he feels the need to stand up his domestic police force? They will come to him through the auspices of the UN. They will be from the many Islamic nations sworn to destroy us. Who will stop them unless we rise up and slay them ourselves?? Obama Appoints 2 Devout Muslims to Homeland Security Posts (NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, Jew or Protestant...? Just wondering) Doesn't this make you feel safer already?? Obama and Janet Nappy Appoint Devout Muslim to Homeland Security Post, Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development. Source for announcement: Homeland Security Press Room http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/obama-appointment -arif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html Kareem Shora, who was born in Damascus, Syria was appointed by DHS Secretary Napolitano on Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC) Washington, DC June 5, 2009 www.adc.org The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) is proud to announce that earlier today at a ceremony held in Albuquerque , New Mexico , DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in ADC National Executive Director Kareem Shora s a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC). ********************************************** Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? That should make our homeland much safer, huh!! Was it not men of the "Devout Muslim Faith" that flew planes into U.S. buildings not too long ago. What the heck is this president thinking?


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    Time: 08:09:09 AM PST US
    From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Quiet appointments. Is this true?
    If we don`t vote them out( Congress and Obama) this next election this country is going to go down hill very fast. The people in this country that want more entitlements will FAR out number we AMERICANS that love this country and our FREEDOM ! We will have to find an alternative or move ! Gil In a message dated 11/2/2009 5:41:36 A.M. Central America Standard T, gmosh@charter.net writes: Nico, So much for growing into the job. These appointments must have been made on halloween! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: _nico css_ (mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com) Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Commander-List: Quiet appointments. Is this true? Remember his line in his book: If things go badly, I will stand with Islam. He is hedging his bets. Where do you think the preponderance of armed force is going to come from when he feels the need to stand up his domestic police force? They will come to him through the auspices of the UN. They will be from the many Islamic nations sworn to destroy us. Who will stop them unless we rise up and slay them ourselves?? Obama Appoints 2 Devout Muslims to Homeland Security Posts (NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, Jew or Protestant...? Just wondering) Doesn't this make you feel safer already?? Obama and Janet Nappy Appoint Devout Muslim to Homeland Security Post, Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development. Source for announcement: _Homeland Security Press Room_ (http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1240595153301.shtm) _http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/obama-appointment-a rif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html_ (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/obama-appointment-arif-ali-khan-asst-secretary-dhs.html) Kareem Shora, who was born in Damascus, Syria was appointed by DHS Secretary Napolitano on Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC) Washington, DC June 5, 2009 _www.adc.org_ (http://www.adc.org/) The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) is proud to announce that earlier today at a ceremony held in Albuquerque , New Mexico , DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in ADC National Executive Director Kareem Shora s a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC). ********************************************** Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? That should make our homeland much safer, huh!! Was it not men of the "Devout Muslim Faith" that flew planes into U.S. buildings not too long ago. What the heck is this president thinking?


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    Time: 08:55:23 AM PST US
    From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fw: Good Oshkosh Video
    Great photo`s. Thanks for sharing them. Gil In a message dated 11/1/2009 9:12:32 A.M. Central America Standard T, rcdettmer@charter.net writes: WOW. Great Video. Great memories from Oskosh 09. Thanks for sharing. Randy Dettmer, AIA 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com ____________________________________ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:50 AM Subject: Commander-List: Fw: Good Oshkosh Video ----- Original Message ----- From: _scott_ (mailto:sboyn@frontiernet.net) silverman_ (mailto:lloydsss11@msn.com) Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Fwd: Good Oshkosh Video Subject: Fwd: Good Oshkosh Video Check Oshkosh 09. ____________________________________ From: _markhambob@juno.com_ (mailto:markhambob@juno.com) Sent: 10/26/2009 7:54:28 P.M. Central Standard Time Subj: Good Oshkosh Video --- If you like airplanes....you'll like this.... Here is a really neat video from Oshkosh this year. Enjoy. Some great flying machines! _http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=nKU0uQki5Dc_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=nKU0uQki5Dc) www.aeroelectric.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:27:21 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Road Landing [from AVweb] (I guess they aren't going to
    publish this after all) From: Aviation Safety [mailto:aviation_safety@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: RE: Road Landing [from AVweb] Thank you for your note about your experience in landing an airplane on a road. On behalf of Aviation Safety magazine and AVweb, we sincerely appreciate your taking the time to share your experience with us. As you may recall, we asked for your response as part of a project to do a podcast with two pilots who have landed on roads. Although it took way too long, we're putting the finishing touches on that project. Thanks for your response, and best wishes to you in your flying. Jeb Joseph E. (Jeb) Burnside Editor-in-Chief Aviation Safety magazine www.aviationsafetymagazine.com jeb.burnside@belvoirpubs.com 941.306.2245 _____ From: nico@nicsysco.com Subject: Road Landing [from AVweb] ROAD LANDING This might not fit your exact story-profile, but in the 1970's and early '80s, I used to land on roads in Southern Africa on a regular basis. During those years, there were seldom anybody else in the sky when one ventures away from the cities, especially north west towards Botswana and Namibia. I was part of a construction company back then and we landed a contract to build a flood control/irrigation dam near the Botswana border. Driving out to survey the site before sending establishment crews to set up camp and build an airfield, was an arduous affair with hardly any roads, no signs, and not many people speaking English. Flying there and pick a road or open area to land was par for the course in those days. Not that I needed a reason to fly, I should add. On this particular trip I flew a Cherokee 300, was alone and I made sure that I didn't have too much fuel on board, preparing for very short landings and take-offs. The Cherokee is not the plane of choice for road and bush landings, because of the low wing. A high wing, fowler flap equipped plane, especially with a STOL conversion, like a Cessna 206 or 207 is the ideal tri-cycle plane for such work. The Cherokee had to do for this trip and the only influence the low wing had on the trip was road selection: no culverts, bridges, shrubs close to the road, and so on. When I left, my guys wanted to know how I will prove that I actually landed at the site. I said I'll bring back a rock with fresh soil on it. And off I went armed with the topographical map of the dam-site. Since navigational aids fade quickly in that direction, dead reckoning navigation is best not forgotten and I ended up more or less in the vicinity after about an hour's flight, but I could not pin-point the exact location to scout for a camp-site and airfield. I saw, however, a nice gravel road running north-south that should be close by the construction site. The most important part of landing on a road is the preparation: make sure that a safe landing can be executed and that a take-off would be easy. I found that three inspection passes cover surface and obstacles, approach, length, and overrun for both the landing and the take-off. After landing, the unexpected happened. I couldn't help to think that I was swarmed by hordes of ants, but they were black kids, nicely dressed in school uniforms, that rushed out of school to witness this never-before-seen phenomenon. I must have stirred up the excitement with my precautionary passes and when I actually touched down smack in the middle of their school complex, school was out. From the air, there was no indication that there was a school there because their school consisted of mud huts and shelters built of tree branches. Didn't look like anything in particular at all from the air. Pushing through roughly two-thousand kids now pushing up against the plane, I could see an adult making his way towards me with a smile as large as the Grand Canyon. I couldn't help but notice that he was smartly dressed with shirt and tie, quite an unexpected site out in the bush. He shook my hand vigorously and welcomed me at their school commenting on the excitement I caused at his school and making for many essays to be written in the future about the day a plane landed in the school yard. After exchanging some niceties, I pulled my topographic map out from the plane and explained to him what I was looking for and if he could point the location on my map. He immediately recognized the local names on the map and pointed to a small range of hills to the north and said the spot is just over those hills and added some landmarks I should look out for. It turned out he was the school's principal and geography teacher. That was truly unexpected. Take-off time. I walked to the side of the road and picked up a brick-sized rock with fresh red-soil on it and tucked it safely into the plane. The kids were singing and chanting with delight at the site before them and I had no chance getting them to move away from the Cherokee. So, I asked the principal if he could get the kids to move off the road as I will be accelerating and they might not get out of the way in time. He waved and yelled something in Tswana causing them to scatter along the road in the direction of my take-off. As they lined the road, the one behind the one in front leaning a bit into the road to see the plane, creating a funnel of kids right into the middle of the road not more than 300 feet ahead. Several times I had to get out onto the wing, waving them off the road. When I started the engine, the road closed again with exciting kids wanting to see and hear the roar of the 300 hp Lycoming, which must have sounded like something from outer space to them. So I continued my dance out onto the wing and back again a couple of times, until I had about 500 feet of clear road ahead of me, cautious of a possible hard stop if they would not move off the road in time as I approach on my takeoff roll. So I let all 300 horses go with the awesome roar that the Lycoming can produce and the resultant dust storm behind it. Fortunately, the kids saw what was coming and they smartly moved out of the way in a wave. I had more than enough space to take off without endangering anyone, except perhaps the additional homework that I brought onto them. I proceeded to the construction site and successfully identified where we would build the camp-site and airfield. When I landed at Lanseria, west of Johannesburg, my guys were waiting for me having heard me calling in on the comm and I promptly delivered the rock with fresh red-soil. I guess the teachable moment is to expect anything and always be on guard. Nico van Niekerk, Thousand Oaks, CA 91359 nico@acu.org (818) 574-7146 _____ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up


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    Time: 09:54:21 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: FW: Obamacare
    Why ABC Fired John Stossel John Stossel was fired from ABC (20-20)'s shortly after he trashed Obamacare in a news feature. The actual airing of the special was delayed until AFTER Henry Waxman's House committee voted on HR3200. All this was, of course, "coincidence." It looks like FOX news has picked him up. Ovver a million people have seen this on YouTube. It needs to be shown to a great many more people. It's a graphic message that President Obama has no desire for you to see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GMKK_fWKg




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