---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/14/09: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:42 PM - AC-680FLP Hydraulic line problems (Ray Mansfield) 2. 10:02 PM - Re: AC-680FLP Hydraulic line problems (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:54 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Commander-List: AC-680FLP Hydraulic line problems Clear DayHello, Had a small hydraulic line in the left wheel well break a while back. Had to land with no brakes, flaps, or steering. Got that fixed. Flew plane to the A&P location for an annual. Test flight after the annual, hydraulic leak in either the up or down line to the right main gear, actual line hasn't been isolated yet. My question...both hydraulic lines, on different side of the plane (comletely different lines also) have broken within 2 hours of flying time. Is there any hydraulic line history or trend for Commanders whereby hydraulic lines start to fail at the same time. In other words, is this going to be a problem in the next hours of flight or next years of flight. Does anyone have experience here? Had to have new engine mounts and wastegates replaced during the annual. Paul Gendron in Ft Lauderdale, FL did a good job with the work. Corrosion on the mounts and manual wastegates were out of shape and quite thin at the elbows. Plane has been down over 4 months and now this hydraulic line problem. Ray Mansfield N91ES 850-217-5185 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:03 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC-680FLP Hydraulic line problems Clear DayMy hydraulic failure was due to a badly made replacement hard line in the right wheel well which put creases in the outside portion of a 90 degree curve. Tom formally C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Mansfield To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: Commander-List: AC-680FLP Hydraulic line problems Hello, Had a small hydraulic line in the left wheel well break a while back. Had to land with no brakes, flaps, or steering. Got that fixed. Flew plane to the A&P location for an annual. Test flight after the annual, hydraulic leak in either the up or down line to the right main gear, actual line hasn't been isolated yet. My question...both hydraulic lines, on different side of the plane (comletely different lines also) have broken within 2 hours of flying time. Is there any hydraulic line history or trend for Commanders whereby hydraulic lines start to fail at the same time. In other words, is this going to be a problem in the next hours of flight or next years of flight. Does anyone have experience here? Had to have new engine mounts and wastegates replaced during the annual. Paul Gendron in Ft Lauderdale, FL did a good job with the work. Corrosion on the mounts and manual wastegates were out of shape and quite thin at the elbows. Plane has been down over 4 months and now this hydraulic line problem. Ray Mansfield N91ES 850-217-5185 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.