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Wed 11/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     0. 12:15 AM - What's My Contribution Used For?  (Matt Dralle)
     1. 06:51 AM - Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communities develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did. (Andrew & Bridget Watson)
     2. 08:14 AM - 520 PROJECT (yourtcfg@aol.com)
     3. 08:22 AM - Re: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communities develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did. (yourtcfg@aol.com)
     4. 08:43 AM - Re: 520 PROJECT (BertBerry1@aol.com)
     5. 08:51 AM - Re: 520 PROJECT (Barry Collman)
     6. 09:40 AM - Epistemology (STW)
     7. 10:06 AM - Re: Epistemology (nico css)
     8. 10:21 AM - Re: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communi... (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
     9. 10:25 AM - Re: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communi... (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
    10. 10:25 AM - Re: 520 PROJECT (yourtcfg@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:15:55 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
    Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator


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    Time: 06:51:24 AM PST US
    From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@telus.net>
    Subject: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communities
    develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did. I found this interesting... I didn't know he was Muslim. Too bad some of the things he says are just plain incorrect. For example, he says at 2:32 in the clip, "It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra, our magnetic compass..." Um... just hold on a second, the Chinese developed the compass; they aren't Muslim, they are Daoist (Taoist). I guess you were misinformed, Mr President. Oh well. Here's the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28 God bless, Andrew


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    Time: 08:14:58 AM PST US
    Subject: 520 PROJECT
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    HI KIDS/I have run on to a pretty nice 520. Not flown in ten years but ha ngared the entire time. Missing logs, 400 hr , three blade props with log s. The airplane was being restore and much good work has been done. Need s finishes. Paint is attractive and presentable. Interior has some missi ng components . No radios. The airplane had upper mid time engines. It is clean and would make a nice project for some one. I think 30K will bu y it, the props are worth 15K. jb


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    Time: 08:22:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim
    Communities develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did.
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    simply amazing. jb -----Original Message----- From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@telus.net> Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 5:33 am Subject: Commander-List: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communities develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did. andrew.bridget@telus.net> I found this interesting... I didn't know he was Muslim. Too bad some of the hings he says are just plain incorrect. For example, he says at 2:32 in th e lip, "It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of lgebra, our magnetic compass..." m... just hold on a second, the Chinese developed the compass; they aren't uslim, they are Daoist (Taoist). I guess you were misinformed, Mr Presiden t. h well. ere's the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28 od bless, ndrew ======================== =========== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Commander-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 08:43:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 520 PROJECT
    From: BertBerry1@aol.com
    Which one is it? Where is it located? -----Original Message----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: 520 PROJECT HI KIDS/I have run on to a pretty nice 520. Not fl own in ten years but hangared the entire time. Missing logs, 400 hr , three blade props with logs. The a irplane was being restore and much good work has been d one. Needs finishes. Paint is attractive and presentabl e. Interior has some missing components . No radios. The airplane had upper mid time engines. It is c lean and would make a nice project for some one. I think 30K will buy it, the props are worth 15K. j b


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    Time: 08:51:17 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: 520 PROJECT
    Just what I was about to ask ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: BertBerry1@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 520 PROJECT Which one is it? Where is it located? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:08:54 -0500 To: <commander-list@matronics.com> Subject: Commander-List: 520 PROJECT HI KIDS/I have run on to a pretty nice 520. Not flown in ten years but hangared the entire time. Missing logs, 400 hr , three blade props with logs. The airplane was being restore and much good work has been done. Needs finishes. Paint is attractive and presentable. Interior has some missing components . No radios. The airplane had upper mid time engines. It is clean and would make a nice project for some one. I think 30K will buy it, the props are worth 15K. jb =B7~=89=B2,=03pr=89=AC=D3}=03=A2z=C1=AE


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    Time: 09:40:06 AM PST US
    From: "STW" <steve2@sover.net>
    Subject: Epistemology
    I just got back from the first vacation in several years. From Vermont, to Brooklyn, through West Virginia to Kentucky, picked up a couple year old Dyna SuperGlide, down through Tennesee and Alabama to show my wife a beautiful part of the country she'd never been to. Made it out as far as Key West. My first American bike and I'm impressed as hell with the quality of the build and the competance of the machine. Six speeds, fuel injection, incredible torque, and very good handling. Plus for the first time really, my wife can actually be comfortable. I still love Moto Guzzi, and Triumph is pretty good, but we both wanted to buy American this time. (Braking is just ok, but I can fix that.) Back hard at it now, working on these crazy instrument approach obstacle surveys. But really good to be out of touch from politics and the news for a while. I don't know how you guys keep at it day after day. Folks, I'm taking a break from the list for a while rather than stir up a hornet's nest responding to the ridiculus crap that keeps washing in over the transom. Checking the list is supposed to be a nice break from a busy day working my ass off, and to provide a good place for information about airplanes. I can stand the heat, but I don't think its healthy to stay in this kitchen. I can't keep my mouth shut when what is demonstrably false is presented as fact. (Honest! I double dog dare you to fact check a fraction of what is being said in the news, in email, in books.... and what you're repeating.) It's a damn shame conservatism is throwing it's intellectuals overboard in a rush to stoke seething popular passion. We need genuine conservatism. But when the faithful reporting of truth is abandoned, what has become of conservatism will continue to be marginalized. I hold no malice toward anyone here. Be well. Steve Welebny


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    Time: 10:06:29 AM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Epistemology
    Nice bike, Steve. How would you fix the braking? Nico -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of STW Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: Commander-List: Epistemology I just got back from the first vacation in several years. From Vermont, to Brooklyn, through West Virginia to Kentucky, picked up a couple year old Dyna SuperGlide, down through Tennesee and Alabama to show my wife a beautiful part of the country she'd never been to. Made it out as far as Key West. My first American bike and I'm impressed as hell with the quality of the build and the competance of the machine. Six speeds, fuel injection, incredible torque, and very good handling. Plus for the first time really, my wife can actually be comfortable. I still love Moto Guzzi, and Triumph is pretty good, but we both wanted to buy American this time. (Braking is just ok, but I can fix that.) Back hard at it now, working on these crazy instrument approach obstacle surveys. But really good to be out of touch from politics and the news for a while. I don't know how you guys keep at it day after day. Folks, I'm taking a break from the list for a while rather than stir up a hornet's nest responding to the ridiculus crap that keeps washing in over the transom. Checking the list is supposed to be a nice break from a busy day working my ass off, and to provide a good place for information about airplanes. I can stand the heat, but I don't think its healthy to stay in this kitchen. I can't keep my mouth shut when what is demonstrably false is presented as fact. (Honest! I double dog dare you to fact check a fraction of what is being said in the news, in email, in books.... and what you're repeating.) It's a damn shame conservatism is throwing it's intellectuals overboard in a rush to stoke seething popular passion. We need genuine conservatism. But when the faithful reporting of truth is abandoned, what has become of conservatism will continue to be marginalized. I hold no malice toward anyone here. Be well. Steve Welebny


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    Time: 10:21:25 AM PST US
    From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim
    Communi... Bottom line ! Obama is a socialist that wants to be the THE FIRST RULER of THE NEW WORLD ORDER ! This idiot is going to ruin this country if we allow it to happen ! If we don`t vote them out this next go around , this country will fade as we have known it and it will take drastic measures to get it turned around if ever. Gil In a message dated 11/18/2009 10:23:21 A.M. Central America Standard, yourtcfg@aol.com writes: simply amazing. jb -----Original Message----- From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@telus.net> Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 5:33 am Subject: Commander-List: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communities develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did. <_andrew.bridget@telus.net_ (mailto:andrew.bridget@telus.net) > I found this interesting... I didn't know he was Muslim. Too bad some of the things he says are just plain incorrect. For example, he says at 2:32 in the clip, "It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra, our magnetic compass..." Um... just hold on a second, the Chinese developed the compass; they aren't Muslim, they are Daoist (Taoist). I guess you were misinformed, Mr President. Oh well. Here's the clip: _http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28) God bless, Andrew =================================== =_blank>www.aeroelectric.com m/" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==================================== t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List ==================================== tp://forums.matronics.com ==================================== (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List)


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    Time: 10:25:54 AM PST US
    From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim
    Communi... If we don`t know what he is by now we have a real problem . Nothing that he does surprises me. Just look at how he and Holder are going to try the 9/11 gang. I can`t believe that so many so called Americans can support this ------=-----. In a message dated 11/18/2009 10:23:21 A.M. Central America Standard, yourtcfg@aol.com writes: simply amazing. jb -----Original Message----- From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@telus.net> Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 5:33 am Subject: Commander-List: Obama - Muslim? And did Innovation in the Muslim Communities develop the compass? Actually, no. The Chinese did. <_andrew.bridget@telus.net_ (mailto:andrew.bridget@telus.net) > I found this interesting... I didn't know he was Muslim. Too bad some of the things he says are just plain incorrect. For example, he says at 2:32 in the clip, "It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra, our magnetic compass..." Um... just hold on a second, the Chinese developed the compass; they aren't Muslim, they are Daoist (Taoist). I guess you were misinformed, Mr President. Oh well. Here's the clip: _http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28) God bless, Andrew =================================== =_blank>www.aeroelectric.com m/" target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com =_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==================================== t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List ==================================== tp://forums.matronics.com ==================================== (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List)


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    Time: 10:25:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 520 PROJECT
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    It is in a hangar in Hillsboro OR. jb -----Original Message----- From: BertBerry1@aol.com Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 8:39 am Subject: Re: Commander-List: 520 PROJECT Which one is it? Where is it located? From: yourtcfg@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: 520 PROJECT HI KIDS/I have run on to a pretty nice 520. Not flown in ten years but ha ngared the entire time. Missing logs, 400 hr , three blade props with log s. The airplane was being restore and much good work has been done. Need s finishes. Paint is attractive and presentable. Interior has some missi ng components . No radios. The airplane had upper mid time engines. It is clean and would make a nice project for some one. I think 30K will bu y it, the props are worth 15K. jb ======================== =========== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Commander-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== ===========




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