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Tue 11/24/09


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     0. 12:09 AM - Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 05:07 AM - Re: FW: Aircraft for Sale - Conquest I (Bill Hamilton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:09:19 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
    There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator


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    Time: 05:07:52 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Hamilton" <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: FW: Aircraft for Sale - Conquest I
    Folks, Further to Russell's comments, the problem with the Conquests is that Cessna have put an absolute life on most of the airframe, 22,000h from memory, and cost of complying with the Cessna SID (Supplementary Inspection Document) virtually means that is the absolute life. A number have been scrapped here in AU, as a result. The Commander situation is mild, by comparison. Cheers, Bill Hamilton =========================================================================== ================================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rlegg@austarnet.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: Aircraft for Sale - Conquest I Hi Folks, I have just watched (closely), the work involved in running two of these airframes through the SIDS process. The first one a Conquest 1, had extensive tail and wing work done 'in-house' by the owner/operator who sourced a consulting AME Airframe specialist to do the work onsite. The airframe still needs extensive 'fuselage' reworking and that will need to be done elsewhere. The cost so far has been quoted as A$600,000 without the extra fuselage work! That suddenly makes the 'US$0' deal look a whole lot less attractive unless you have a lot of air time booked for the finished product. The second one a Conquest 11, had the same tail and wing work but was 'passed' on the fuselage work. This still came in at around A$400,00 and the airframe was down for five months...again the work was done 'inhouse' by the same consultant. And yes, I know I have been distracted by Cessnas but there are no Commanders in my part of remote Oz! Cheers Russell




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