---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/24/09: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:09 AM - Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:07 AM - Re: FW: Aircraft for Sale - Conquest I (Bill Hamilton) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:19 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:52 AM PST US From: "Bill Hamilton" Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: Aircraft for Sale - Conquest I Folks, Further to Russell's comments, the problem with the Conquests is that Cessna have put an absolute life on most of the airframe, 22,000h from memory, and cost of complying with the Cessna SID (Supplementary Inspection Document) virtually means that is the absolute life. A number have been scrapped here in AU, as a result. The Commander situation is mild, by comparison. Cheers, Bill Hamilton =========================================================================== ================================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rlegg@austarnet.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: Aircraft for Sale - Conquest I Hi Folks, I have just watched (closely), the work involved in running two of these airframes through the SIDS process. The first one a Conquest 1, had extensive tail and wing work done 'in-house' by the owner/operator who sourced a consulting AME Airframe specialist to do the work onsite. The airframe still needs extensive 'fuselage' reworking and that will need to be done elsewhere. The cost so far has been quoted as A$600,000 without the extra fuselage work! That suddenly makes the 'US$0' deal look a whole lot less attractive unless you have a lot of air time booked for the finished product. The second one a Conquest 11, had the same tail and wing work but was 'passed' on the fuselage work. This still came in at around A$400,00 and the airframe was down for five months...again the work was done 'inhouse' by the same consultant. And yes, I know I have been distracted by Cessnas but there are no Commanders in my part of remote Oz! Cheers Russell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.