---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/02/09: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:08 PM - FW: F16 vs. C-130 (nico css) 2. 01:39 PM - Re: FW: F16 vs. C-130 (David Owens) 3. 03:11 PM - Re: FW: F16 vs. C-130 (Dan Wold) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:34 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: FW: F16 vs. C-130 Too precious. F16 vs. C-130 A C-130 was lumbering along when a cocky F-16 flashed by. The jet jockey decided to show off. The fighter jock told the C-130 pilot, 'watch this!' and promptly went into a barrel roll followed by a steep climb. He then finished with a sonic boom as he broke the sound barrier. The F-16 pilot asked the C-130 pilot what he thought of that? The C-130 pilot said, 'That was impressive, but watch this!' The C-130 droned along for about 5 minutes and then the C-130 pilot came back on and said: 'What did you think of that?' Puzzled, the F-16 pilot asked, 'What the heck did you do?' The C-130 pilot chuckled. 'I stood up, stretched my legs, walked to the back, took a leak, then got a cup of coffee and a cinnamon roll.' When you are young & foolish - speed & flash may seem a good thing !!! When you get older & smarter - comfort & dull is not such a bad thing!!! Us older folks understand this one. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:58 PM PST US From: "David Owens" Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: F16 vs. C-130 This is very scary, this was sent to me by a very good friend of mine and he does not send things that are not true.I do not know the man that wrote this letter... Thought all of you would like to read it.M.L. One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox. This was NOT what happened. I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she was not there. The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. Now..they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her. (don't ask me..I don't make the rules, but I've studied) The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said "shut up infidel dog!" She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin. This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say "I got your back." I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said "you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!" As I "led" him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, "You WILL do the same!" He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage. We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston . The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent "we and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on. Again...this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked "What the hell is going on!?!?" I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said "I'm getting off this plane". The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. (now I'm mad!) I said "I am a grown man who bought this ticket, who's time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I'm going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!" And I heard a voice behind me say "so am I". Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am. Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston . If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is. They wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it. I'm telling this to you because I want you to know.. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes.. -Tedd Petruna ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: F16 vs. C-130 From: Dan Wold I don't normally post here, but I think we need to set the record straight. Please read this http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp in reference to David Owens post. Don't believe everything you hear on the internet - scratch that - don't believe *anything* you read on the internet without doing a bit of research. I'm sick of getting emails from the Commander list that don't have to do with Aero Commanders. Let's all do ourselves a favor and keep the political and chain emails out of our list. If it doesn't involve a Commander, don't post it, I really don't care about your political opinions and most others don't either. Thanks, DW On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:37 PM, David Owens wro te: > This is very scary, this was sent to me by a very good friend of mine an d > he does not send things that are not true=85I do not know the man that wr ote > this letter... Thought all of you would like to read it=85M.L. > > One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesda y, > November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th you may > have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to > Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before > takeoff. It was on Fox. > > This was NOT what happened. > > I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full > attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout t he > plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the > stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that > time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the > back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very > aggressively. This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she > repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He > ignored her as if she was not there. > > The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd > stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, on e > in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of > a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. > Now=85.they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim ma n > goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to > her. (don=92t ask me=85.I don=92t make the rules, but I=92ve studied) T he 3rd > stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at > this time. To which one of the men said =93shut up infidel dog!=94 She went to > take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that > exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin. This is > where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a > voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say =93I got your back. =94 I > grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said =93you WILL go > sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!=94 As I =93led=94 him ar ound me > to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck an d > his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, > =93You WILL do the same!=94 He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he > was going to go. As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TS A > agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were to ld > to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to obli ge > actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 > were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage. > > We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, > when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!! Stone faced, e yes > front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the > back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! > Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told th e > TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The > agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their > luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to > Houston . The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent =93we a nd > our crew will not fly this plane!=94 After a word or two, the entire cre w, > luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened > again and a whole new crew walked on. > > Again=85..this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked =93What t he > hell is going on!?!?=94 I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the > delay and I would be home shortly. I said =93I=92m getting off this plan e=94. > The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. ( now > I=92m mad!) I said =93I am a grown man who bought this ticket, who=92s t ime is > mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I=92m goi ng > through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that > door!!=94 And I heard a voice behind me say =93so am I=94. Then everyon e behind > us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking o ff > that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a > statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to > the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was > supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am. > > Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston . > > If this wasn=92t a dry run, I don=92t know what one is. They wanted to s ee how > TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers > would handle it. > > I=92m telling this to you because I want you to know=85. > The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes=85. > > -Tedd Petruna > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.