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1. 01:10 PM - Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (John IV)
2. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (Barry Collman)
3. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (nico css)
4. 01:31 PM - Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (John IV)
5. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (Tylor Hall)
6. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (swperk@earthlink.net)
7. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (Jim Addington)
8. 09:15 PM - Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V (John IV)
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
JB,
Thanks for the tip, I will give Morris a call.
John IV
PS. Can anyone verify whether or not my original request for information went
out over the email list or if it's just here on the forum?
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
Hi John IV,
Your email got to my Inbox OK, over here in cold, snowy England!
Best Regards,
Barry Collman
Aero Commander Specialist
Air-Britain (Historians) Ltd.
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From: "John IV" <n69ck@beechowners.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
I saw it on the list, John.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John IV
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V
JB,
Thanks for the tip, I will give Morris a call.
John IV
PS. Can anyone verify whether or not my original request for information
went out over the email list or if it's just here on the forum?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281329#281329
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
Barry & Nico,
Thank you both for your reply. I just wanted to make sure the post had made it
to the email list. The lack of responses was making me a bit suspicious that
something had gone awry.
Thanks again for your verification.
John IV
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
John,
I got your request and I am surprised that no one replyed.
Do you know much about the 680 turbo prop series.
They all have or had the 3000 PSI hydraulic system turning a pump that does the
pressurization in the cabin.
I know one of our members has a 681 and the pressurization has been removed.
The Century series conversions changed to bleed air pressurization as well as the
different engine -150. The 690's came that way from the factory.
Tylor Hall
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
Hi John,
I have a 681 Turbo Commander (2 models after the 680V) and it has had the Century
engine conversion done, changing from the original TPE331-43BL engines to the
TPE331-1-151K engines. One of the major changes from the 680T/V/W/ series to
the 681 was factory installed bleed air pressurization. Having said that, my
dad used to own a 680W with -43BL engines and it had bleed air pressurization.
One of the advantages of a 680V is that it is exempt from the 208A service bulletin
that requires a recurring 36-month spar inspection. Whether that outweighs
the disadvantage of having a plane with engines that are minimally supported
is a decision that you will have to make.
I'd be happy to talk to you more about any questions you may have, but I have to
agree with JB that Morris is by far and away the expert on these planes.
Regards,
Stan
N681SP
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tylor Hall <tylorhall@mac.com>
>Sent: Jan 13, 2010 1:34 PM
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V
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>John,
>I got your request and I am surprised that no one replyed.
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>Do you know much about the 680 turbo prop series.
>They all have or had the 3000 PSI hydraulic system turning a pump that does the
pressurization in the cabin.
>I know one of our members has a 681 and the pressurization has been removed.
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>The Century series conversions changed to bleed air pressurization as well as
the different engine -150. The 690's came that way from the factory.
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>Tylor Hall
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>On Jan 13, 2010, at 2:10 PM, John IV wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
Hey Barry, You got the cold we sent. It got down to 8 degrees with a chill
factor of -5. That is cold for 30 north of Dallas. Please don't send it
back.
Here is hoping you have a Happy New Year.
Jim
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi John IV,
Your email got to my Inbox OK, over here in cold, snowy England!
Best Regards,
Barry Collman
Aero Commander Specialist
Air-Britain (Historians) Ltd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John IV" <n69ck@beechowners.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V
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| JB,
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Commander 680V |
Stan et. al.,
Thanks for all of the replies this evening.
I'm not particularly well versed in the 680 series of planes, but have spent the
last few days digging through the maint. manual, IPC, service letters and flight
manual to learn the various systems. I have to say that it's perhaps not
put together quite the way I would have done it (hydraulic motor powered cabin
huffer etc) but nothing has jumped out at me as being terribly outlandish so
far.
My biggest concern and my reason for making the original posting was to see if
anyone knew of any weak points in these aircraft that one should worry about ie.
does xxx have a tendency to break at regular intervals or does yyy have a history
of failing more often than a similar system on a similar aircraft.
I understand the orphaned nature of the airframe and particularly the engines and
while those certainly aren't things working in the planes favor they're items
that I'm willing to live with IF the aircraft and its systems are well made
and reliable (not more prone to failure to a similar aircraft of similar vintage).
Thanks again for the tips, and please keep them coming. I'm all ears for anything
you're willing to share.
John IV
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