---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/26/10: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:36 AM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (BobsV35B@aol.com) 2. 02:40 PM - ACLU onslaught (cybersuperstore) 3. 04:14 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (lloyd silverman) 4. 04:19 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (cybersuperstore) 5. 04:37 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (Jim Addington) 6. 04:44 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (lloyd silverman) 7. 05:34 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (Jim Addington) 8. 06:01 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (lloyd silverman) 9. 06:06 PM - Re: ACLU onslaught (Chris) 10. 06:21 PM - Re: ACLU onslaught () 11. 06:24 PM - Re: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM (lloyd silverman) 12. 07:42 PM - Need some postal addresses (Andrew & Bridget Watson) 13. 08:02 PM - Re: ACLU onslaught (cybersuperstore) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:35 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Good Morning Lloyd, I may be getting in on this late, but have you recently had work done on both engines? Vibrations such as you describe are often caused by a very conscientious mechanic who tightly secures every wire, hose, cable, and shaft that he can find. That stiffens the engine's connection to the fuselage and occasionally transmits vibrations at resonant RPM ranges. The reason we have flexible engine mounts, hoses, and wires instead of solid mounts and hard lines is to provide enough flexibility to allow the engine to wiggle when it wants to wiggle without wiggling the airframe. Just snipping a few Ty-Wraps may do the job. Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 4/25/2010 11:38:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, yourtcfg@aol.com writes: "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. jb -----Original Message----- From: lloyd silverman Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. THANKS,LLOYD ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:30 PM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught The sad thing is that there are only a few people that want to do this. Please keep passing this on... cid:1.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com I AM HONORED TO DO THIS Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed and another suit to end prayer from the military completely. They're making great progress. The Navy Chaplains can no longer mention Jesus' name in prayer thanks to the retched ACLU and our new administration. I'm not breaking this one. If I get it a 1000 times, I'll forward it a 1000 times! Let us pray... cid:2.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com cid:3.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com cid:4.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com cid:5.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com cid:6.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com cid:7.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com cid:9.2868767658@web59911.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Prayer chain for our Military... Don't break it! Please send this on after a short prayer.. Prayer for our soldiers Don't break it! Prayer: 'Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.' Prayer Request: When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our troops around the world. There is nothing attached. Just send this to people in your address book. Do not let it stop with you. Of all the gifts you could give a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, Airman, & others deployed in harm's way, prayer is the very best one. GOD BLESS YOU FOR PASSING IT ON! __BARRACUDA_SIGN__ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:52 PM PST US From: "lloyd silverman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKSDAN. IT'S THE RIGHT ENGINE ONLY. ILL CHECK COMPRESSION AND BLADE ANGLES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Wold To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Umm.. Don't do that? Cheers, DJW On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, > wrote: > "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both > engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. > jb > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > > To: commander-list > > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm > Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > > MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U > RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. > THANKS,LLOYD > > > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > > tp://forums.matronics.com > > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:18 PM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Could it be a misfire? Injector or magneto? _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKSDAN. IT'S THE RIGHT ENGINE ONLY. ILL CHECK COMPRESSION AND BLADE ANGLES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Wold Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Umm.. Don't do that? Cheers, DJW On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, wrote: > "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both > engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. > jb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > To: commander-list > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm > Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > > MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U > RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. > THANKS,LLOYD > > ========== > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ========== > tp://forums.matronics.com > ========== > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > >nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:15 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM I got my prop back from the prop shop and the vibration was bad enough to do damage to the spinner and back plate. We were 50 miles off show when we discovered it. I managed to get it home and took it back to the prop shop and found the blade they had replace was too long and out of pitch. Mine did not vibrate enough to notice but it sure did some damage. Jim Addington N444BD _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKSDAN. IT'S THE RIGHT ENGINE ONLY. ILL CHECK COMPRESSION AND BLADE ANGLES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Wold Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Umm.. Don't do that? Cheers, DJW On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, wrote: > "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both > engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. > jb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > To: commander-list > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm > Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > > MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U > RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. > THANKS,LLOYD > > ========== > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ========== > tp://forums.matronics.com > ========== > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > >nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:29 PM PST US From: "lloyd silverman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKS,BOB. I CHECKED ADEQUATE FLEX ON HOSES & HARNESSES. BY THE WAY ,IT'S RT ENGINE ONLY ----- Original Message ----- From: BobsV35B@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:35 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Good Morning Lloyd, I may be getting in on this late, but have you recently had work done on both engines? Vibrations such as you describe are often caused by a very conscientious mechanic who tightly secures every wire, hose, cable, and shaft that he can find. That stiffens the engine's connection to the fuselage and occasionally transmits vibrations at resonant RPM ranges. The reason we have flexible engine mounts, hoses, and wires instead of solid mounts and hard lines is to provide enough flexibility to allow the engine to wiggle when it wants to wiggle without wiggling the airframe. Just snipping a few Ty-Wraps may do the job. Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 4/25/2010 11:38:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, yourtcfg@aol.com writes: "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. jb -----Original Message----- From: lloyd silverman To: commander-list Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. THANKS,LLOYD http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:45 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Some day I will read what I write before I send it. Sorry i ran it together. Jim _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:34 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM I got my prop back from the prop shop and the vibration was bad enough to do damage to the spinner and back plate. We were 50 miles off show when we discovered it. I managed to get it home and took it back to the prop shop and found the blade they had replace was too long and out of pitch. Mine did not vibrate enough to notice but it sure did some damage. Jim Addington N444BD _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKSDAN. IT'S THE RIGHT ENGINE ONLY. ILL CHECK COMPRESSION AND BLADE ANGLES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Wold Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Umm.. Don't do that? Cheers, DJW On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, wrote: > "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both > engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. > jb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > To: commander-list > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm > Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > > MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U > RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. > THANKS,LLOYD > > ========== > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ========== > tp://forums.matronics.com > ========== > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > >nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:56 PM PST US From: "lloyd silverman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKS NICO, PLUGS ALL LOOK CLEAN AFTER RUN. ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersuperstore To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM Could it be a misfire? Injector or magneto? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:13 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKSDAN. IT'S THE RIGHT ENGINE ONLY. ILL CHECK COMPRESSION AND BLADE ANGLES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Wold To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Umm.. Don't do that? Cheers, DJW On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, > wrote: > "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both > engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. > jb > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > > To: commander-list > > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm > Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > > MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U > RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. > THANKS,LLOYD > > ========== > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ========== > tp://forums.matronics.com > ========== > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > >nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:30 PM PST US From: Chris Subject: Re: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught >Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed Although it's believable that the aclu might pull such a stunt, this email is totally false. Y'all should check facts before posting such things. chris ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:26 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught Why don't you (and you know who "you" are) stick to Twin Commander topics only and keep the B.S. politics off the site. I know it's a free country and free speech but we don't need it on this board. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught >Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed Although it's believable that the aclu might pull such a stunt, this email is totally false. Y'all should check facts before posting such things. chris ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:10 PM PST US From: "lloyd silverman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM JIM,THANKS FOR THE INFO. ILL LET U KNOW WHEN I FIND THE ANSWER. LLOYD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Addington To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:33 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM I got my prop back from the prop shop and the vibration was bad enough to do damage to the spinner and back plate. We were 50 miles off show when we discovered it. I managed to get it home and took it back to the prop shop and found the blade they had replace was too long and out of pitch. Mine did not vibrate enough to notice but it sure did some damage. Jim Addington N444BD ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:13 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM THANKSDAN. IT'S THE RIGHT ENGINE ONLY. ILL CHECK COMPRESSION AND BLADE ANGLES. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Wold To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Umm.. Don't do that? Cheers, DJW On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:25 AM, > wrote: > "Excessive" vibration will not be solved by dynamic balancing. Both > engines?? Check engine compression and propeller blade angles. Good luck. > jb > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > > To: commander-list > > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 6:46 pm > Subject: Commander-List: VIBRATION AT 1400RPM > > MY 500B WITH IO540'S HAS EXCESIVE VIBRATION AT 1400 RPM. ANY IDEAS, OR CAN U > RECOMMEND SOMEONE WHO CAN DYNAMICALY BALANC PROP IN NEW YORK AT MGJ. > THANKS,LLOYD > > ========== > t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ========== > tp://forums.matronics.com > ========== > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > >nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:26 PM PST US From: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" Subject: Commander-List: Need some postal addresses Hello everybody, I finally received the paper copies of my book, Dragon in the Sky--it's a bit disappointing as not all the errors the publisher made were corrected. I did try to get a legal ruling to force them to make the changes, but was unsuccessful. To be honest, the errors are not major: the header page for Part Three is labelled Part Two, and there are a couple of places where the punctuation is missing due to (apparently) font incompatibilities. Nico van Niekerk, Tom Fisher, Don Girod and Bruce Campbell, please send me your postal addresses so I can send you your copies with my thanks for your help. Email me directly, please, at: andrew (dot) bridget (at) telus (dot) net - replace " (dot) " with a period and " (at) " with the @ symbol. Thanks! Best wishes, Andrew ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:48 PM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught I'll take my medicine. It was sent accidentally and I was duly slapped around by someone else who sent me the snopes on it. Sorry about that, folks. You must know I would never do something like that intentionally, right? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dfalik@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught Why don't you (and you know who "you" are) stick to Twin Commander topics only and keep the B.S. politics off the site. I know it's a free country and free speech but we don't need it on this board. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: ACLU onslaught >Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed Although it's believable that the aclu might pull such a stunt, this email is totally false. Y'all should check facts before posting such things. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.