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1. 06:56 AM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Zac Armstrong)
2. 04:46 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Tylor Hall)
3. 05:36 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Chris)
4. 05:49 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (craig kennedy)
5. 06:23 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Tylor Hall)
6. 06:35 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Zac Armstrong)
7. 06:37 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Tylor Hall)
8. 06:44 PM - n409ac[1].pdf (cybersuperstore)
9. 07:06 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (cybersuperstore)
10. 07:20 PM - Re: AC500 Question or two (Tylor Hall)
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| Subject: | AC500 Question or two |
Thanks! I know the GIO powered birds have alot more "umph"=2C especially w
hen it comes to weight lifting capability. But=2C I don't want the extra h
eadaches of the gear boxes as it is becoming harder and harder (not to ment
ion more expensive) to find people to work on them! Great video.
All the world's great civilizations have followed the same path: from bonda
ge to spiritual faith=3B from spiritual faith to courage=3B from courage to
liberty=3B from liberty to abundance=3B from abundance to selfishness=3B f
rom selfishness to complacency=3B from complacency to apathy=3B from apathy
to dependence=3B from dependence back to bondage. If we are to be the exc
eption to history=2C then we must break the cycle=2C for those who do not r
emember the past are condemned to repeat it.
-Based on statements/excepts from Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler and George Sa
ntayana.
> From: nico@cybersuperstore.com
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
> Date: Sun=2C 6 Jun 2010 23:11:04 -0700
>
tore.com>
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> You'll get them every time with that.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lor
ber
> Sent: Sunday=2C June 06=2C 2010 11:01 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
>
> <blorber@southwestcirrus.com>
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> I've probably told this story=2C but when 400CH (680FL(P)) first came to
> Las Vegas=2C there was an Aero Star parked next to us.
>
> One day=2C the owner of the Aero Star walked up while I was adding a 5th
> (6th?) coat of wax and said=2C "that's a nice plane=2C but I like a littl
e
> more speed."
>
> "Well=2C let's race=2C" I said.
>
> He got an indignant look on his face and said something to the effect
> of=2C "oh=2C that plane will never keep up with mine."
>
> I smiled and said=2C "you didn't let me finish. The race is moving 8
> people plus hunting gear from here to Del Rio=2C TX."
>
>
> cybersuperstore wrote:
> > I once loaded 9 people into the 500 when we had to fly
> > them out of Inhaca Island (off the east coast of Mozambique) in 1984. I
t
> was
> > a non-event in terms of performance and comfort.
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| Subject: | Re: AC500 Question or two |
ZAC,
You should sent the Serial No to Barry Coleman. He is our historian. He can give
you a print out of who has owned the airplane from day one and all the 337
that are on file. It is like a CarFAX history of the airplane.
If it is the one in Trade-a-plane at $22,000 it could be a good buy. Just don't
overload it at high altitudes.
Tylor Hall
On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Zac Armstrong wrote:
> Thanks! I know the GIO powered birds have alot more "umph", especially when
it comes to weight lifting capability. But, I don't want the extra headaches
of the gear boxes as it is becoming harder and harder (not to mention more expensive)
to find people to work on them! Great video.
>
> All the world's great civilizations have followed the same path: from bondage
to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to
complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence
back to bondage. If we are to be the exception to history, then we must
break the cycle, for those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat
it.
>
> -Based on statements/excepts from Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler and George Santayana.
>
>
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>
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> > From: nico@cybersuperstore.com
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
> > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:11:04 -0700
> >
> >
> > You'll get them every time with that.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
> > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:01 PM
> > To: commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
> >
> > <blorber@southwestcirrus.com>
> >
> > I've probably told this story, but when 400CH (680FL(P)) first came to
> > Las Vegas, there was an Aero Star parked next to us.
> >
> > One day, the owner of the Aero Star walked up while I was adding a 5th
> > (6th?) coat of wax and said, "that's a nice plane, but I like a little
> > more speed."
> >
> > "Well, let's race," I said.
> >
> > He got an indignant look on his face and said something to the effect
> > of, "oh, that plane will never keep up with mine."
> >
> > I smiled and said, "you didn't let me finish. The race is moving 8
> > people plus hunting gear from here to Del Rio, TX."
> >
> >
> > cybersuperstore wrote:
> > > I once loaded 9 people into the 500 when we had to fly
> > > them out of Inhaca Island (off the east coast of Mozambique) in 1984. It
> > was
> > > a non-event in terms of performance and comfort.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >======================
> &g===================
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: AC500 Question or two |
> If it is the one in Trade-a-plane at $22,000 it could be a good buy.
Seriously? I'd wager you could buy the nicest 500 on the planet and end
up with a smaller investment than it would take to get that poor heap
even marginally airworthy. Love to see the old gal get restored but
sure looks to me like it probably a total corrosion pit, likely has junk
engines and props, and would need a total rebuild if the airframe is
even salvageable.
chris
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| Subject: | Re: AC500 Question or two |
Sad, but looks to be bubbling nicely in the damp FL sun.....
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From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 5:28:27 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
> If it is the one in Trade-a-plane at $22,000 it could be a good buy.
Seriously? I'd wager you could buy the nicest 500 on the planet and end up with
a smaller investment than it would take to get that poor heap even marginally
airworthy. Love to see the old gal get restored but sure looks to me like it
probably a total corrosion pit, likely has junk engines and props, and would
need a total rebuild if the airframe is even salvageable.
chris
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| Subject: | Re: AC500 Question or two |
Hay, be nice guys.
How about 500 SG in Controller. It is even in Lic. Dec 2009.
Nice radios.
New interior in 2003,
GPS, A/P
It looks flyable. Corrosions ? it is parked inside for now.
Tylor Hall
On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:48 PM, craig kennedy wrote:
> Sad, but looks to be bubbling nicely in the damp FL sun.....
>
> From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 5:28:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
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| Subject: | AC500 Question or two |
We were thinking about 500SG in CA=2C not the one for 22K. One thing I hav
e learned from restoring our Bonanza is to start off with a nice airplane.
I definitely won't be buying a 22K -500. I do also know that while a 500
is a lot cheaper initially=2C it does have some limitations (performance) a
nd can eat a very large hole in a wallet (as with any airplane).
All the world's great civilizations have followed the same path: from bonda
ge to spiritual faith=3B from spiritual faith to courage=3B from courage to
liberty=3B from liberty to abundance=3B from abundance to selfishness=3B f
rom selfishness to complacency=3B from complacency to apathy=3B from apathy
to dependence=3B from dependence back to bondage. If we are to be the exc
eption to history=2C then we must break the cycle=2C for those who do not r
emember the past are condemned to repeat it.
-Based on statements/excepts from Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler and George Sa
ntayana.
From: tylorhall@mac.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
Hay=2C be nice guys.
How about 500 SG in Controller. It is even in Lic. Dec 2009.
Nice radios.
New interior in 2003=2C
GPS=2C A/P
It looks flyable. Corrosions ? it is parked inside for now.
Tylor Hall
On Jun 7=2C 2010=2C at 6:48 PM=2C craig kennedy wrote:
Sad=2C but looks to be bubbling nicely in the damp FL sun.....
From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Mon=2C June 7=2C 2010 5:28:27 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
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| Subject: | Re: AC500 Question or two |
Zac,
A straight 500 has 0-540 engines, carburetors and 250 HP, not the IO injected.
That came in the 500B, U and S versions. The 500 A had the Cont. i0-470 260
HP, The Colmill conversion changed it up to the IO-520 Cont.
Tylor Hall
On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:48 PM, craig kennedy wrote:
> Sad, but looks to be bubbling nicely in the damp FL sun.....
>
> From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 5:28:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
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I wasn't aware that there is an Aero Commander 200D. Sir Barry?
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| Subject: | AC500 Question or two |
Darn! Colemil, not Miller.
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
Zac,
A straight 500 has 0-540 engines, carburetors and 250 HP, not the IO
injected. That came in the 500B, U and S versions. The 500 A had the Cont.
i0-470 260 HP, The Colmill conversion changed it up to the IO-520 Cont.
Tylor Hall
On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:48 PM, craig kennedy wrote:
Sad, but looks to be bubbling nicely in the damp FL sun.....
_____
From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 5:28:27 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Commander-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri
bution
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| Subject: | Re: AC500 Question or two |
Miller made the long nose that Aero Commander copyed later.
Tylor
On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:05 PM, cybersuperstore wrote:
> Darn! Colemil, not Miller.
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:27 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
>
> Zac,
> A straight 500 has 0-540 engines, carburetors and 250 HP, not the IO injected.
That came in the 500B, U and S versions. The 500 A had the Cont. i0-470 260
HP, The Colmill conversion changed it up to the IO-520 Cont.
>
> Tylor Hall
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:48 PM, craig kennedy wrote:
>
>
> Sad, but looks to be bubbling nicely in the damp FL sun.....
>
> From: Chris <cschuerm@cox.net>
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 5:28:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500 Question or two
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> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
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