Commander-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/29/10


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 07:39 AM - AV16B-1159 (Bill Kirkwood)
     2. 07:51 AM - Re: Landing gear strut lubricaton & IFR currency (Jack B. Mills)
     3. 08:41 AM - Re: AV16B-1159 (Harry Merritt)
     4. 08:43 AM - AC 680FLP Pressure reducer (Ray Mansfield)
     5. 09:28 AM - Re: AC 680FLP Pressure reducer (Harry Merritt)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:39:59 AM PST US
    Subject: AV16B-1159
    From: Bill Kirkwood <bkirkwoo@elp.rr.com>
    Anyone know where I could get a fuel selector valve overhauled?


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    Time: 07:51:54 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Mills" <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear strut lubricaton & IFR currency
    Keith, Thank you very much for the advice. Most likely I will self insure, as pressurization is a good thing here in the rare air high mesa country. Regards, Moe N680RR 680Fp From: Keith S. Gordon Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:05 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Landing gear strut lubricaton & IFR currency On the topic of wiping down struts: I'd like to get Morris Kernick's thoughts on this. My thoughts are: a.. AvGas, while a great solvent, does not lubricate the strut. b.. WD40 (Witch Doctor 40) cleans and lubricates when its fresh, gets really gummy when it's old or cold and will roll an O ring fast. c.. If you're not going to wipe down your struts with 5606 prior to each flight, find a substance that is compatible with the material the O ring is made from. a.. I have no idea what that other substance would be. Moe: I had a client, Roy Everingham, who I trained in his AC-680F(P) who was not instrument rated. AVEMCO insisted on him removing the pressurization equipment! I intervened and argued that a man in is 70s, flying from San Diego to Lake Tahoe, would not be well served by lack of pressurization along that route. AVEMCO's answer was that statistically, a non-instrument rated pilot in a pressurized aircraft is going to be stuck on top of an overcast and (here's the punch line) "We have the cancelled checks to prove it." We compromised. I said that rather than remove the pressurization system that he could disable it. That seemed to satisfy the agent. The answer to your next question is, "No." You may have better luck with another underwriter -- but I doubt it. Insurance companies do not like pressurized twins to be flown my non-instrument rated or instrument-current pilots. Alternatives? Self insure or get and stay current. Keith S Gordon Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. -----Original Message----- From: Jack B. Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:00 pm Subject: Re: Commander-List: Landing gear strut lubricaton I am with you, John, also this action keeps you from getting the $ 50,000.00 Fine (no joking) at Pensacola, Fl. for throwing the sumped avgas on the tarmack. On another note, are any of you able to keep insurance on a pressurized Commander, without having an instrument check ride at least once a year? After moving to Farmington, NM it is not necessary to stay instrument current, as we have two types of weather here....vis. at least 100 miles, or so bad that you don't want to Taxi. Also, since my retirement, most flying is just for fun, and if I must sit on the ground until the weather clears at MYF or somewhere, this only means that I have more time to enjoy the local stuff. My insurance carrier (AVEMCO) who has been good for many years, insists on the check ride only because of the pressurization. Also, because of the pressurization, a co-pilot will be needed when I turn 70. If someone has a good 680F or 680FL I would consider trading up, down, or sideways for my 680Fp, which has mid time engines, all the bells and whistles, is certified known icing, and is in really great shape except the paint job which could use some help. Due to the high density altitude here I can only consider forced induction with big horsepower. Moe Mills N680RR 680Fp From: John Vormbaum Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:55 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Landing gear strut lubricaton Personally, I always thought that the only thing stickier than super glue is hydraulic fluid. I use Commander-Approved Strut Cleaning Fluid (i.e. some fuel from the sump, on a paper towel) to wipe down the struts before I fly. It gets them clean easily and evaporates quickly. I haven=99t heard of DOW40 but am curious to hear from anyone who has used it. Cheers, /John 500B N353CC From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Gerrish Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: Commander-List: Landing gear strut lubricaton I have been reading the communications for a couple of years, but this is my first try at asking for input. Before every flight we wipe hydraulic fluid on the strut to make it less sticky and wipe off any grime. I had a mechanic at our airport (KHWY, Warrenton, Va.) suggest to me that a product I believe called DOW40 be sprayed on instead. His thought was that it kept the oleo slippery longer and did no harm to the internal seals. Does anyone have opinion or experience with this product. 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    Time: 08:41:06 AM PST US
    From: "Harry Merritt" <avtectwo@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: AV16B-1159
    Yes Harry Merritt 321 267-3141 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Kirkwood" <bkirkwoo@elp.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: Commander-List: AV16B-1159 > > Anyone know where I could get a fuel selector valve overhauled? > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:43:11 AM PST US
    From: "Ray Mansfield" <hcourier@cox.net>
    Subject: AC 680FLP Pressure reducer
    Hello, I am in need of an overhaul of a pressure reducer from the hydraulic system of an Aero Commander 680FLP, Mr. RPM conversion. The pump pressure is about 3,000 psi and the aircraft system works around 1,000 psi. Had the pressure go to 2,000 psi recently and broke a line. Most recent runup was OK but I don't trust it now. Have had two complete hydraulic failures this year, don't want any more. Maintenance guys have found someone to overhaul, but it's around $5,500 (ripoff price) and 45-60 days. I can't believe a pressure reducer is that complicated an item.. Does anyone have a pressure reducer for sale...sorry I don't have a part number at the moment. Experienced Commander folks will probably know what I need, but I can get the part #. Thanks, Ray Mansfield


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    Time: 09:28:58 AM PST US
    From: "Harry Merritt" <avtectwo@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: AC 680FLP Pressure reducer
    yes harry merritt 321 267-3141 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Mansfield To: Commander List Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: Commander-List: AC 680FLP Pressure reducer Hello, I am in need of an overhaul of a pressure reducer from the hydraulic system of an Aero Commander 680FLP, Mr. RPM conversion. The pump pressure is about 3,000 psi and the aircraft system works around 1,000 psi. Had the pressure go to 2,000 psi recently and broke a line. Most recent runup was OK but I don't trust it now. Have had two complete hydraulic failures this year, don't want any more. Maintenance guys have found someone to overhaul, but it's around $5,500 (ripoff price) and 45-60 days. I can't believe a pressure reducer is that complicated an item.. Does anyone have a pressure reducer for sale...sorry I don't have a part number at the moment. Experienced Commander folks will probably know what I need, but I can get the part #. Thanks, Ray Mansfield




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