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1. 08:15 AM - Re: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR (yourtcfg@aol.com)
2. 08:41 AM - Re: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR (Keith S. Gordon)
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| Subject: | Re: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR |
Thanks Keith so much. I have not had a subscription to ANY news paper for
years. Every time they report ANYTHING about a subject I am intimate wit
h, they get it WRONG. Usually WAY WRONG. That means that all of the othe
r information they print is also wrong, we just don't know the subject mat
ter well enough to know what the errors are. It is therefor a waste of ti
me to read the paper. Thanks for your correction. Hope you can make it
to Hillsboro!! jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S. Gordon <cloudcraft@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 9:04 pm
Subject: Commander-List: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR
Twin Commanders,
An Aero Commander 500B crashed near Burns, Oregon, while en route from Red
ding, CA (KRDD) to Montana.
The news article I read is listed here:
http://www.ktvz.com/news/24607311/detail.html
I did some very quick and dirty research because the news report was full
of typical inaccuracies and I wrote the following comment for the article
but did not post it because I would have had to register on their web sit
e ... and I'm already registered on too many web sites.
So, for you gentlemen:
There are several inaccuracies in this report, which is to be expected fro
m the general news media. Aero Commanders do not have a history of wing
failures. There are a few instances of tail failure on the turbine power
ed models and there is a recurring inspection required on some models of
Twin Commanders for wing spar corrosion. The model 500B is exempt from
this inspection requirement. A search of FAA Airman's Records shows two
pilots with the name of the deceased pilot, (perhaps father and son) livi
ng in Bonsall, California. Neither are instrument rated; only one is list
ed as having a multi-engine rating. If there were clouds in the area as
reported by the witness, ("...Witnesses said the plane, a 1962 Aero Comma
nder Model 500-B, could be heard coming out of the clouds, straight for th
e ground...=9D) an instrument rating to be in those clouds would hav
e been required. There is no record of an Instrument Flight Plan in the
ATC system for an Twin Commander 500B on Wednesday between Redding, CA (K
RDD) and Montana, nor anywhere else.
Keith S. Gordon
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR |
Every time they report ANYTHING about a subject I am intimate with, they
get it WRONG. Usually WAY WRONG.
Capt. JimBob,
Until one is the subject (target) of a news article, or, as you say, it's
about a subject you're intimately familiar with, one can never appreciate
how bad the vast majority of news reporting is. Keep that in mind when
you read / watch / hear news of any kind.
I may have seemed harsh in my assessment of the the crash; I don't hold an
y anger towards the people who died in this crash. I can only begin to ima
gine what they felt when they came out the bottom of a cloud close to the
ground and realized their lives were over. Was it terror? Peace? We'll
never know. I also know the anguish their family and friends are experie
ncing now.
My reaction was to the reporting and the sense of drama the reporter was
trying to create with misplaced facts. OK. I am being protective of the
aircraft line. I admit that.
As for Hillsboro, it will be a last minute go / no go decision for me due
to my work "schedule" -- which is a word that can't be used in a sentence
describing corporate aviation.
Best to all,
Keith S. Gordon
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
-----Original Message-----
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 8:14 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR
Thanks Keith so much. I have not had a subscription to ANY news paper for
years. Every time they report ANYTHING about a subject I am intimate wit
h, they get it WRONG. Usually WAY WRONG. That means that all of the othe
r information they print is also wrong, we just don't know the subject mat
ter well enough to know what the errors are. It is therefor a waste of ti
me to read the paper. Thanks for your correction. Hope you can make it
to Hillsboro!! jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S. Gordon <cloudcraft@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 9:04 pm
Subject: Commander-List: AC500B Crash, Burns, OR
Twin Commanders,
An Aero Commander 500B crashed near Burns, Oregon, while en route from Red
ding, CA (KRDD) to Montana.
The news article I read is listed here:
http://www.ktvz.com/news/24607311/detail.html
I did some very quick and dirty research because the news report was full
of typical inaccuracies and I wrote the following comment for the article
but did not post it because I would have had to register on their web sit
e ... and I'm already registered on too many web sites.
So, for you gentlemen:
There are several inaccuracies in this report, which is to be expected fro
m the general news media. Aero Commanders do not have a history of wing
failures. There are a few instances of tail failure on the turbine power
ed models and there is a recurring inspection required on some models of
Twin Commanders for wing spar corrosion. The model 500B is exempt from
this inspection requirement. A search of FAA Airman's Records shows two
pilots with the name of the deceased pilot, (perhaps father and son) livi
ng in Bonsall, California. Neither are instrument rated; only one is list
ed as having a multi-engine rating. If there were clouds in the area as
reported by the witness, ("...Witnesses said the plane, a 1962 Aero Comma
nder Model 500-B, could be heard coming out of the clouds, straight for th
e ground...=9D) an instrument rating to be in those clouds would hav
e been required. There is no record of an Instrument Flight Plan in the
ATC system for an Twin Commander 500B on Wednesday between Redding, CA (K
RDD) and Montana, nor anywhere else.
Keith S. Gordon
Wing Commander Gordon
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