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1. 04:33 AM - Re: SO OTHERS MAY LIVE (Barry Collman)
2. 08:05 AM - Commander 520, N4175B (Barry Collman)
3. 08:16 AM - Re: Commander 520, N4175B (sr14572@yahoo.com)
4. 11:34 AM - Re: Commander 520, N4175B (Jack B. Mills)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: Commander 520, N4175B (sr14572@yahoo.com)
6. 01:08 PM - Re: Commander 520, N4175B (Barry Collman)
7. 05:42 PM - Re: SO OTHERS MAY LIVE (lloyd silverman)
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| Subject: | SO OTHERS MAY LIVE |
Hi JimBob,
Sad to see another Commander 'bite the dust', but good to know that parts
from s/n 531 will keep others flying.
Any chance you rescued the s/n plate for me?
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: 25 October 2010 03:58
Subject: Commander-List: SO OTHERS MAY LIVE
HI KIDS...Sue and I just returned from a 12 day road trip from Portland
Maine to Portland OR!! The trip was a blast stopping at Nigeria Fall, The
Ford museum and MT Rushmore. The reason for the trip was to end the life of
an old Commander with dignity. N6000N, a 560E, has made her last flight.
My evolvement with her began a couple of years ago when Morris Kernick and I
used her to venture to Galena Alaska to rescue a 680 Commander form years of
neglect and fly it to a new home at an A&P school in south AL. Then, last
year N6000N was purchased by a corp in New Jersey. It is a bit of a sad
story. The old gal had deteriorated from years of "Alaska Maintenance" to
the point of no real return. Sadly, the N.J. Corp dumped many thousands of
dollars into her in all the wrong places. In the end, she was flown to
Northeast air, a Commander service center, for an annual inspection. During
her stay she caught the eye of an FAA rep and was grounded (I still have the
tag on the door handle). With no hope of saving her now, the N.J. Corp
(they now own a Citation) donated her to Wings of Hope. W.O.H. placed her
on ebay and the rest is history. But not to worry!! While as an airplane
she had no value, as parts she will live on!!! Her propellers, spinners and
many other small parts are already installed on a 680E, N4278S, owned by a
TCFG member from Ohio. I then loaded all the rest of the "Good Stuff" into
the rented truck, and Sue and I brought it home where it will all eventually
make its way into other Commanders. I still have the engines, Cleveland
brakes, all control surfaces, landing gear and many other bits available.
She will see that many other Commanders live on!! jb
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| Subject: | Commander 520, N4175B |
Hello All,
Commander 520, s/n 81, N4175B was repossessed by the Coast National Bank, of
San Luis Obispo, California in April 2009 from an owner in Bradley,
California.
Registration was cancelled by the FAA last week so presumably it is in the
process of being scrapped.
If anybody banks with them, please close your account immediately, in
protest.
But, does anybody know this Commander and can verify its current whereabouts
and status?
Best Regards,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 520, N4175B |
You would probably get more mileage if you file a complaint against that ba
nk =0Awith the comptroller of the currency, or the FDIC.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0AFrom: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-brita
in.co.uk>=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, October 25, 2010
10:33:00 AM=0ASubject: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B=0A=0A=0AHello
All,=0A-=0ACommander 520, s/n 81, N4175B was repossessed by the Coast Nat
ional Bank, of San =0ALuis Obispo, California in April 2009 from an owner i
n Bradley, California.=0ARegistration was cancelled by the FAA last week so
presumably it is in the =0Aprocess of being scrapped.=0AIf anybody banks w
ith them, please close your account immediately, in protest.=0A-=0ABut, d
oes anybody know this Commander and can verify its current whereabouts and
==== =0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 520, N4175B |
Based on previous experience (non aircraft) the comptroller of the
currency is deaf, blind and doesn't give a damn.
Moe Mills
N680RR
From: sr14572@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B
You would probably get more mileage if you file a complaint against that
bank with the comptroller of the currency, or the FDIC.
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From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 10:33:00 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B
Hello All,
Commander 520, s/n 81, N4175B was repossessed by the Coast National
Bank, of San Luis Obispo, California in April 2009 from an owner in
Bradley, California.
Registration was cancelled by the FAA last week so presumably it is in
the process of being scrapped.
If anybody banks with them, please close your account immediately, in
protest.
But, does anybody know this Commander and can verify its current
whereabouts and status?
Best Regards,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 520, N4175B |
I agree, but a complaint starts the wheels turning, lawyers get involved, a
nd if =0Athe bank.....that did the dirty deed, has any dirt under its finge
rnails, its =0Aone more complaint they have to deal with.- If I knew all
the particulars, I =0Acould draft one and once polished up, we can all mail
one in?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jack B. Mil
ls <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Mon, October 25, 2010 2:25:52 PM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Commander
520, N4175B=0A=0A=0ABased-on previous experience (non aircraft) the compt
roller of the currency is =0Adeaf, blind and doesn't give a damn.=0A-=0A
-=0AMoe Mills=0AN680RR=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: sr14572@yahoo.com =0ASent: Monday
, October 25, 2010 8:14 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: R
e: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B=0A=0AYou would probably get more m
ileage if you file a complaint against that bank =0Awith the comptroller of
the currency, or the FDIC.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0AFrom: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>=0ATo: commander-li
st@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, October 25, 2010 10:33:00 AM=0ASubject: Comma
nder-List: Commander 520, N4175B=0A=0A=0AHello All,=0A-=0ACommander 520,
s/n 81, N4175B was repossessed by the Coast National Bank, of San =0ALuis O
bispo, California in April 2009 from an owner in Bradley, California.=0AReg
istration was cancelled by the FAA last week so presumably it is in the =0A
process of being scrapped.=0AIf anybody banks with them, please close your
account immediately, in protest.=0A-=0ABut, does anybody know this Comman
der and can verify its current whereabouts and =0Astatus?=0A-=0ABest Rega
rds,=0ABarry=0A =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Li
st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhref="http://forums.
matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A href="http://www.matronics.
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| Subject: | Commander 520, N4175B |
Hey Guys,
My comments were made very much with tongue in cheek :-)
No need to actually take any action!
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
sr14572@yahoo.com
Sent: 25 October 2010 19:41
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B
I agree, but a complaint starts the wheels turning, lawyers get involved,
and if the bank.....that did the dirty deed, has any dirt under its
fingernails, its one more complaint they have to deal with. If I knew all
the particulars, I could draft one and once polished up, we can all mail one
in?
_____
From: Jack B. Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 2:25:52 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B
Based on previous experience (non aircraft) the comptroller of the currency
is deaf, blind and doesn't give a damn.
Moe Mills
N680RR
From: sr14572@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B
You would probably get more mileage if you file a complaint against that
bank with the comptroller of the currency, or the FDIC.
_____
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 10:33:00 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 520, N4175B
Hello All,
Commander 520, s/n 81, N4175B was repossessed by the Coast National Bank, of
San Luis Obispo, California in April 2009 from an owner in Bradley,
California.
Registration was cancelled by the FAA last week so presumably it is in the
process of being scrapped.
If anybody banks with them, please close your account immediately, in
protest.
But, does anybody know this Commander and can verify its current whereabouts
and status?
Best Regards,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: SO OTHERS MAY LIVE |
JB, I OWN A 500B (N6290X) THAT LACKS TWO THINGS; A NEW PANEL & OF COURSE
CLEVELAND BRAKES. I BELIEVE THE 560 & 500B brakes are identical. if so
how much will it take to pry them loose . by the way I flew to Portland
& parked at northeast Air this august for 5 days. we saw N6000N rotting
on the pavement. I'M BASED AT ORANGE COUNTY AIRPORT 60 MILES NORTH OF
N.Y.C. THANKS,LLOYD SILVERMAN
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Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:58 PM
Subject: Commander-List: SO OTHERS MAY LIVE
HI KIDS...Sue and I just returned from a 12 day road trip from
Portland Maine to Portland OR!! The trip was a blast stopping at
Nigeria Fall, The Ford museum and MT Rushmore. The reason for the trip
was to end the life of an old Commander with dignity. N6000N, a 560E,
has made her last flight. My evolvement with her began a couple of
years ago when Morris Kernick and I used her to venture to Galena Alaska
to rescue a 680 Commander form years of neglect and fly it to a new home
at an A&P school in south AL. Then, last year N6000N was purchased by a
corp in New Jersey. It is a bit of a sad story. The old gal had
deteriorated from years of "Alaska Maintenance" to the point of no real
return. Sadly, the N.J. Corp dumped many thousands of dollars into her
in all the wrong places. In the end, she was flown to Northeast air, a
Commander service center, for an annual inspection. During her stay she
caught the eye of an FAA rep and was grounded (I still have the tag on
the door handle). With no hope of saving her now, the N.J. Corp (they
now own a Citation) donated her to Wings of Hope. W.O.H. placed her on
ebay and the rest is history. But not to worry!! While as an airplane
she had no value, as parts she will live on!!! Her propellers, spinners
and many other small parts are already installed on a 680E, N4278S,
owned by a TCFG member from Ohio. I then loaded all the rest of the
"Good Stuff" into the rented truck, and Sue and I brought it home where
it will all eventually make its way into other Commanders. I still have
the engines, Cleveland brakes, all control surfaces, landing gear and
many other bits available. She will see that many other Commanders live
on!! jb
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