---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/28/10: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:08 AM - Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments... (Matt Dralle) 1. 07:06 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Tylor Hall) 2. 07:26 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Barry Collman) 3. 07:51 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 4. 08:00 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Deneal Schilmeister (MacbookPro)) 5. 08:05 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (yourtcfg@aol.com) 6. 08:08 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Barry Collman) 7. 08:29 AM - Re: Commander 685 for sale. (kitepilot@kitepilot.com) 8. 08:36 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (WINGFLYER1@aol.com) 9. 08:48 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (budplaster@aol.com) 10. 08:59 AM - Photos to Berry (Tylor Hall) 11. 09:35 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Tylor Hall) 12. 09:56 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (cybersuperstore) 13. 10:00 AM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (yourtcfg@aol.com) 14. 12:51 PM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (Jim Addington) 15. 05:24 PM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (lloyd silverman) 16. 07:43 PM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (White_rhino_ps) 17. 09:28 PM - Re: GO-480s FOR SALE (yourtcfg@aol.com) 18. 11:13 PM - Website (cybersuperstore) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:30 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments... Dear Listers, There are just three days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. 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I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb > > Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:09 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I've asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:34 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent "hobby", as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I've asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE From: "Deneal Schilmeister (MacbookPro)" On 11/28/10 9:48 AM, "Randy Dettmer, AIA" wrote: > Hi Barry, > I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings a nd > vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up y our > excellent =B3hobby=B2, as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, tha t are > appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. Ditto! -- > > http://deneals.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE From: yourtcfg@aol.com I am so sorry Barry. I will send you some pix of N6000N as she looked aft er I removed the engines. I so look forward to reading your posts. I am going to check out a 520 Commander in Hillsboro again. I looked at her a few years ago and passed on buying her. Since then I have acquired a pair of great propellers that would put her back into service. I will ta ke some pix of her if I can run her down again. Now that my phone takes pix, it should be easy. PLEASE keep up the wonderful work. You are the world expert on Commanders! jb -----Original Message----- From: Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 7:48 am Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent =9Chobby=9D, as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your har d work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I=99ve asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 year s. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? Th ese engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr in spection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I th ink they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:56 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Randy, Well, that may be the case, but from where I'm sitting, it most certainly doesn't seem to be. Quite often I ask questions and there's no reply. That's zilch, zero, rien, nichts, nada - whatever language is used. On more than one occasion, I've asked that if anybody sees a Commander, please photograph it and send it to me. Probably had less than 10 in all these years. So, as I said, "what's the point? Bert Berry and myself spend countless hundreds of hours trying to identify Commanders from photographs that we garner from all corners of the World. Little point in trying if we haven't got up-to-date shots to compare them with. Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: 28 November 2010 15:49 Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent "hobby", as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I've asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:47 AM PST US From: "kitepilot@kitepilot.com" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 685 for sale. If anyone is interested on this, I still have (heavily involved in aviation) family in Venezuela. I don't know neither the plane nor the seller, but I landed in that airport while lost in my second solo flight in 1984. :) ET cybersuperstore writes: > Eish. That looks like it requires a serious investment. It seems more like a > deal to take it away at no cost to clean up the airport. > > _____ > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry > Collman > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:19 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Commander 685 for sale. > > > > Hi All, > > > > There's a 685 for sale, with details at: > > > > http://clasificados.volarenvenezuela.com/index.php?page=out > &id=272 > > > > A few points though. > > Firstly, it isn't a "1975" example, having been Certificated as N9205N on > 01Nov72. > > Secondly, the Serial Number isn't "11272" (a 690A!), but is 12014. > > Thirdly, It was exported to Venezuela in May76, but has not been cancelled > from the FAA Register. > > Lastly, the present Registration mark in Venezuela should strictly be > presented as YV2448, not "YV-2448". > > > > Seems as though the price it's available for sale at is US$60,000. > > > > Best Regards, > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:20 AM PST US From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Great job Barry ! I didn`t know you were collecting photo`s of commanders .What is your postal address . I`ll send you a picture of N-6418-Q a 680 commander based in Murfreesboro , Tn .I bought it in Sept. 2005 . It is a fine airplane . I`m trying to find a good painter , if you have any suggestion s let me know . I have put a new interior in and now need to paint the exterior .The engines have about 425 hours and runs great . Thanks Gil Wa lker In a message dated 11/28/2010 10:10:05 A.M. Central America Standard, barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: Hi Randy, Well, that may be the case, but from where I=99m sitting, it most certainly doesn=99t seem to be. Quite often I ask questions and there=99s no reply. That=99s zilch, zero, rien, nichts, nada =93 whatever language is used. On more than one occasion, I=99ve asked that if anybody sees a Comm ander, please photograph it and send it to me. Probably had less than 10 in all these years. So, as I said, =9Cwhat=99s the point? Bert Berry and myself spend countless hundreds of hours trying to identif y Commanders from photographs that we garner from all corners of the World . Little point in trying if we haven=99t got up-to-date shots to comp are them with. Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Det tmer, AIA Sent: 28 November 2010 15:49 Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent =9Chobby=9D, as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 _www.dettmerarchitecture.com_ (http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/) ____________________________________ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Col lman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I=99ve asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hal l Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, _yourtcfg@aol.com_ (mailto:yourtcfg@aol.com) wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? _www.buildersbooks.com_ (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) _http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List_ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List) _http://forums.matronics.com_ (http://forums.matronics.com/) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE From: budplaster@aol.com Barry, Positive Influences and their force upon others is never revealed totally and are accurately unknown as to how much good they are sharing . Of cour se, I can only speak for myself when I tell you I became a commander owner partly because of information I obtained from you (1994). Without that in formation I may still be an owner of one of the lesser machines. I have no w owned three commanders and still have the 1957 560E I purchased in 1994. I attended the 2004 Fly-In, Kansas City, to meet you, show my commander and tell you how grateful I was for your contributions in helping me obta in my airplane. Even though our contact may not be on a daily basis, knowi ng you are "there" is a tremendous source of information unequaled. Buddy A. Plaster, Ph.D. Apple Valley, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: Barry Collman Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 7:23 am Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I=99ve asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 year s. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? Th ese engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr in spection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I th ink they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? ======================== =========== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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There are photos of the interior on his web site. http://www.barronthomas.com/ It has been sitting for over 5 years according to some people at the French Valley Airport, CA. The price has come down due to metal in the oil. ?? unconfirmed. http://gallery.me.com/tylorhall#100518&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=0 You should be able to open this gallery and down load the photos. JB are the breaks Cleveland? Can you tell from the photo? More photos later. Tylor Hall tylorhall@mac.com First Fueling Systems, Inc. 100 Iron Ave. SE Albuquerque, NM 87102 505-400-8373 Cell 505-247-3001 505-247-3005 FAX www.firstfueling.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:50 AM PST US From: Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Berry, I was in CA last week with Moe. We tried to move his 680FP back to NM but weather stopped us. I had to fly back on SWA. I did stop in at 4 different airports. I will post a gallery on line so you can see and down load them. Tylor Hall On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Barry Collman wrote: > Hi Randy, > > Well, that may be the case, but from where I=92m sitting, it most certainly doesn=92t seem to be. > Quite often I ask questions and there=92s no reply. That=92s zilch, zero, rien, nichts, nada ' whatever language is used. > > On more than one occasion, I=92ve asked that if anybody sees a Commander, please photograph it and send it to me. > Probably had less than 10 in all these years. > So, as I said, =93what=92s the point? > > Bert Berry and myself spend countless hundreds of hours trying to identify Commanders from photographs that we garner from all corners of the World. > Little point in trying if we haven=92t got up-to-date shots to compare them with. > > Regards, > Barry > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA > Sent: 28 November 2010 15:49 > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE > > Hi Barry, > I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent =93hobby=94, as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. > > Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB > 680F / N6253X > > > > Dettmer Architecture > 663 Hill Street > San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 > 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 > www.dettmerarchitecture.com > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE > > Hello All, > > Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. > I feel sure that I=92ve asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. > > Barry > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall > Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE > > JB, > NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. > I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. > The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. > I have a bunch of photos. > Tylor > > > On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: > > HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb > > Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? > > > > > > > www.buildersbooks.com > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:53 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Barry the very backbone of the group. No doubt. _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:49 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent "hobby", as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I've asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE From: yourtcfg@aol.com BARRY...........You should have the pix of N6000N, if not, let me know and I will forward them again. Sue will send a pix of each of the 5 Commande rs I took to the A&P school last year. They are in the slide show we show each year at dinner, but I don't think I sent them to you, sorry. N6000N last flew about 12-2009 and was removed from service on Oct 12-2010 . The remains of the airframe and paperwork were transferred to Northeast Air (A Twin Commander service center) in Portland Maine. Don't know why they wanted her???? There is a straight 680 rotting in Nampa Idaho (N985RA I think). It has been grounded by the FAA and will likely never fly again. I shouldl be there next week on a delivery and snap some pix and send them. XOXOXO Love, jb -----Original Message----- From: Tylor Hall Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 8:29 am Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Berry, I was in CA last week with Moe. We tried to move his 680FP back to NM but weather stopped us. I had to fly back on SWA. I did stop in at 4 different airports. I will post a gallery on line so you can see and down load them. Tylor Hall On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Barry Collman wrote: Hi Randy, Well, that may be the case, but from where I=99m sitting, it most ce rtainly doesn=99t seem to be. Quite often I ask questions and there=99s no reply. That=99s zilch, zero, rien, nichts, nada =93 whatever language is used. On more than one occasion, I=99ve asked that if anybody sees a Comma nder, please photograph it and send it to me. Probably had less than 10 in all these years. So, as I said, =9Cwhat=99s the point? Bert Berry and myself spend countless hundreds of hours trying to identify Commanders from photographs that we garner from all corners of the World. Little point in trying if we haven=99t got up-to-date shots to compa re them with. Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: 28 November 2010 15:49 Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent =9Chobby=9D, as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your har d work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I=99ve asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 year s. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? Th ese engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr in spection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I th ink they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com = ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:15 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Barry, I agree with Randy, please keep up the good work as we would be lost with out you and your knowledge. Jim Addington N444BD _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hi Barry, I am pretty quiet on the chat list. However, always enjoy your postings and vast knowledge about the fleet of Commanders out there. Please keep up your excellent "hobby", as I am sure there many more out there, beside me, that are appreciative (and impressed) with your hard work. Thanks very much. Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Hello All, Sometimes, I really do wonder why I bother with my hobby. I feel sure that I've asked for sightings of Commanders that seem to be out of use, and photographs, but nobody seems to care. Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall Sent: 28 November 2010 15:02 Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE JB, NO, I have not found a phone number to contact him. I looked at 8468C that is sitting at French Valley, Ca for the last 5 years. The oil has drained into the engine since there is no oil in the tanks. I have a bunch of photos. Tylor On Nov 27, 2010, at 11:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? These engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr inspection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think they are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:11 PM PST US From: "lloyd silverman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:51 PM PST US From: White_rhino_ps Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE Jim, What plane did they come off of? Craig Sent from my iPad On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:09 PM, yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: > > HI KIDS.I have a pair of GO-480 G1B6s for sale. Logs say 750SMOH????? Th ese engines were removed from 560E N6000N and I have given them a 100hr insp ection. $8000 for the pair. Call me, they have, well, a history. I think t hey are OK engines. I flew them about 40hrs. jb > > Tylor.Were you able to reach Jerry Kent?? Did you buy the GSO-480s??? > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-480s FOR SALE From: yourtcfg@aol.com They were removed from a 560E, N6000N. The engines were in regular use un til Dec of 09. I ground ran them in Oct and they ran great. I have done a 100 hr insp on them. 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