---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/12/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:11 PM - Re: Facebook page (Jack B. Mills) 2. 01:11 PM - Re: Commander Spotting KGRR (Jack B. Mills) 3. 01:55 PM - Re: Facebook page (sr14572@yahoo.com) 4. 02:25 PM - Re: Rare Placard (cybersuperstore) 5. 03:33 PM - Re: Rare Placard (dongirod) 6. 03:52 PM - Re: Rare Placard (BobsV35B@aol.com) 7. 04:23 PM - Re: Facebook page (Tom Fisher) 8. 05:59 PM - 680FP (Dan Farmer) 9. 07:50 PM - Re: Rare Placard (dongirod) 10. 08:48 PM - Re: Air Force One Commander (cybersuperstore) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:23 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Mills" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page Gary, Your greeting begs the question "what do you normally do with your iPhone? Moe Mills N680RR 680Fp From: Gary Wilson Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page Nice pussy lips Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:13 AM, "cybersuperstore" wrote: Tom Do you have an email adres to which I can send it off the list? Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:21 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page I would like to change some of that story now that I am better informed but I understand that what is ever out there stays out there. T... ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersuperstore To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Facebook page Hi Tom. Yes, I made reference to the fact that you lost that particular bird in the ocean with some other precious things. I have the whole story and additional pictures somewhere and will eventually come across it. I'll add the registration to the pics. Thanks Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:29 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page The green 500B was mine and you are missing the Canadian registration C-FBCR. I like the site. Tom... ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersuperstore To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Commander-List: Facebook page Folks, I added another bunch of photographs to the Aero Commander Facebook Page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Aero-Commander/144424762275884 Click on the Like This button to be notified when new stuff goes up. If you find anything out of place or duplicated, or have suggestions as how to arrange things, I welcome suggestions. 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Mills" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Spotting KGRR Hmmmmm, cameras in the GPS, something more to be cautious of, and my greatest fear has been the guy in my gym locker room who always seems to be on his cell phone. Moe N680RR 680Fp From: Keith S. Gordon Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Spotting KGRR Photography using a Garmin 550t GPS? What on earth will be next I ask!?! I know. It's getting ridiculous. Cameras are built into everything now. Maybe that's good, but I have my concerns! Knowing you as I do, I made the data plates a priority. Too bad the lighting was so flat and dim in the gray overcast yesterday. My digital camera (that has a built in camera) is on the charger and will go into my flight bag for the next trip. Best, Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. NBAA Access Committee Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep -----Original Message----- From: Barry Collman Sent: Sat, Dec 11, 2010 12:13 pm Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander Spotting KGRR Hi Keith, I=99m really grateful to you for the shots of two of John=99s Commanders, especially the s/n plates as I=99m trying to build up a collection of these in order to get the Manufacturer=99s Aircraft Association=99s 6-digit s/n plate numbers. Photography using a Garmin 550t GPS? What on earth will be next I ask!?! Really great to hear from you again. Very Best Regards, Barry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:27 PM PST US From: "sr14572@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page hahaha, it was an email from my nephew, and I forwarded to all my perverted =0Abuddies.- only, i didnt check the list when I sent it.- Only notice d it after I =0Asent it.- Believe me, I was embarrased.-- =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jack B. Mills =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, December 12, 2010 4:35:34 PM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page=0A=0A=0AG ary,=0A-=0AYour greeting begs the question "what do you normally do with your iPhone?=0A-=0AMoe Mills=0AN680RR=0A680Fp=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: Gary Wilso n =0ASent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 9:51 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matroni cs.com =0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page=0A=0ANice pussy lips =0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Dec 12, 2010, at 12:13 AM, "cybersupersto re" =0Awrote:=0A=0A=0ATom=0A>Do you have an emai l adres to which I can send it off the list?=0A>Nico=0A>-=0A>=0A>=0A_____ ___________________________=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.c om =0A[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom F isher=0A>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:21 PM=0A>To: commander-list@matr onics.com=0A>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page=0A>=0A>=0A>I would like to change some of that story now that I am better informed but I =0A>u nderstand that what is ever out there stays out there.=0A>T...=0A>----- Ori ginal Message ----- =0A>>From: cybersuperstore =0A>>To: commander-list@matr onics.com =0A>>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:49 PM=0A>>Subject: RE: Com mander-List: Facebook page=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Hi Tom. =0A>>Yes, I made reference to the fact that you lost that particular bird in the =0A>>ocean with some other precious things. I have the whole story and additional =0A>>pictures somewhere and will-eventually come across it. I'll add the registration =0A>>to the pics. =0A>>=0A>>Thanks=0A>>Nico=0A>>-=0A>>=0A>>=0A___________ _____________________=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com =0A [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher =0A>>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:29 PM=0A>>To: commander-list@matroni cs.com=0A>>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>The gre en 500B was mine and you are missing the Canadian registration C-FBCR.=0A>> I like the site.=0A>>Tom...=0A>>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>>From: cy bersuperstore =0A>>>To: commander-list@matronics.com =0A>>>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:49 PM=0A>>>Subject: Commander-List: Facebook page=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>Folks, =0A>>>-=0A>>>I added another bunch of photographs to t he Aero Commander Facebook Page. =0A>>>-=0A>>>http://www.facebook.com/#!/ pages/Aero-Commander/144424762275884=0A>>>-=0A>>>Click on the Like This b utton to be notified when new stuff goes up.=0A>>>-=0A>>>If you find anyt hing out of place or duplicated, or have suggestions as how to =0A>>>arrang e things, I welcome suggestions. =0A>>>=0A>>>-=0A>>>Thanks=0A>>>-=0A>>> -=0A>>>Nico=0A>>>-=0A>>>-=0A>>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com" >www.aeroelectric.com =0A>>>href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.build ersbooks.com =0A>>>href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp. com =0A>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matroni cs.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0A>>> href="http://forums.matro nics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A>>>=0A> href="http://www.aeroel ectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com =0A>href="http://www.buildersbooks.com"> www.buildersbooks.com =0A>href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebui lthelp.com =0A>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.ma tronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">htt p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0A> href="http://forums.ma tronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A>=0A> href="http://www.aeroe lectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com =0A>href="http://www.buildersbooks.com" >www.buildersbooks.com =0A>href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebu ilthelp.com =0A>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.m atronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">ht tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0A> href="http://forums.m atronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A>=0A href="http://www.aeroe lectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com =0Ahref="http://www.buildersbooks.com"> www.buildersbooks.com =0Ahref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuil thelp.com =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matr onics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http: //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0A href="http://forums.matro nics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A=0A =0A3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A href='3D"http: //www.aeroelectric.com"'>www.aeroelectric.com =0Ahref='3D"http://www.buil dersbooks.com"'>www.buildersbooks.com =0Ahref='3D"http://www.homebuilthel p.com"'>www.homebuilthelp.com =0Ahref='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contri bution"'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dhref='3D"http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List"'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Co mmander-List3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3Dhref='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matro nics.com=0A3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ================ =0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:16 PM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Rare Placard http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7342679 &l=b0b8f0ff64&id=772710347 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:38 PM PST US From: "dongirod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Rare Placard How about the DC-10 in Detroit I think, many years ago. #1 as I recall, got the head of Maintenance nicknamed, =9CForklift=9D but didn=99t stop him, became chief pilot for Frank Lorenzo and later CEO of Value Jet. Don From: cybersuperstore Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Rare Placard http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7342679&l=b0b8f0ff64&id=77271 0347 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:48 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Rare Placard Good Evening Don, I do not recall the accident in Detroit, but I do remember the AAL DC-10 that had an engine fall off during a takeoff at Chicago's O'Hare airport. That was eventually traced to faulty maintenance when a forklift was used to replace an engine and pylon as one piece. A slip up occurred and the accident occurred later. It is my understanding that the supervisor who was responsible for the operation committed suicide. Anyone know otherwise? Happy Skies, Old Bob PS I feel they should have placed the blame at least partially on the FAA as AAL was complying with a completely unnecessary AD that required the removal and inspection of the pylon mounting bolts. In a message dated 12/12/2010 5:33:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, dongirod@bellsouth.net writes: How about the DC-10 in Detroit I think, many years ago. #1 as I recall, got the head of Maintenance nicknamed, =9CForklift=9D but didn 't stop him, became chief pilot for Frank Lorenzo and later CEO of Value Jet. Don From: _cybersuperstore_ (mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com) Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Rare Placard _http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7342679&l=b0b8f0ff64&id=77271 0347_ (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7342679&l=b0b8f0ff64&id=77271 0347) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:42 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersuperstore To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Facebook page Tom Do you have an email adres to which I can send it off the list? Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:21 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page I would like to change some of that story now that I am better informed but I understand that what is ever out there stays out there. T... ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersuperstore To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Facebook page Hi Tom. Yes, I made reference to the fact that you lost that particular bird in the ocean with some other precious things. I have the whole story and additional pictures somewhere and will eventually come across it. I'll add the registration to the pics. Thanks Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:29 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Facebook page The green 500B was mine and you are missing the Canadian registration C-FBCR. I like the site. Tom... ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersuperstore To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Commander-List: Facebook page Folks, I added another bunch of photographs to the Aero Commander Facebook Page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Aero-Commander/144424762275884 Click on the Like This button to be notified when new stuff goes up. If you find anything out of place or duplicated, or have suggestions as how to arrange things, I welcome suggestions. 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I had always been told it was Joe Leonard, hence the name =9CForklift=9D or =9CForklift Joe=9D, Lorenzo brought him to Eastern as Chief Pilot, later he went to Value Jet/ Air Tran, as President/CEO at the time I was flying the L-1011, and talking to a Lockheed Tec/Rep who laughed at how Douglas used I think he said three half inch bolts or something like that to secure that rather large engine compared to Lockheed with their RB-211 engines using double that number and much larger bolts. But it didn=99t stop anyone with the right connections, Value Jet had numerous =98incidents=99 then a major accident killing everyone on board in FL. that was a joke in the way it was handled, just changed the name and it was business as usual. Think it was an American DC-10 Capt. that had numerous violations as he refused to keep the aircraft under 200 knots close to the airport and low, but after that incident with the DC-10 crash all violation were dropped. With the increased speed, the aircraft could have maintained control, but not at the slower speed. Funny how these thing never come out in the newspaper. Don From: BobsV35B@aol.com , Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Rare Placard Good Evening Don, I do not recall the accident in Detroit, but I do remember the AAL DC-10 that had an engine fall off during a takeoff at Chicago's O'Hare airport. That was eventually traced to faulty maintenance when a forklift was used to replace an engine and pylon as one piece. A slip up occurred and the accident occurred later. It is my understanding that the supervisor who was responsible for the operation committed suicide. Anyone know otherwise? Happy Skies, Old Bob PS I feel they should have placed the blame at least partially on the FAA as AAL was complying with a completely unnecessary AD that required the removal and inspection of the pylon mounting bolts. In a message dated 12/12/2010 5:33:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, dongirod@bellsouth.net writes: How about the DC-10 in Detroit I think, many years ago. #1 as I recall, got the head of Maintenance nicknamed, =9CForklift=9D but didn't stop him, became chief pilot for Frank Lorenzo and later CEO of Value Jet. Don From: cybersuperstore Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 5:21 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: Rare Placard http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7342679&l=b0b8f0ff64&id=77271 0347 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:40 PM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Air Force One Commander I posted the following about the AFO Commanders on the Commander Facebook site. I will stumble on the others and post them too. Particularly interesting is the article in "The Flying White House". 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