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1. 08:22 AM - Re: Commander Spotting KGRR (Cate Chagnot)
2. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR (Barry Collman)
3. 09:02 AM - Re: Commander Spotting KGRR (Cate Chagnot)
4. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR (yourtcfg@aol.com)
5. 11:02 AM - Re: Commander Spotting KGRR (Cate Chagnot)
6. 11:27 AM - Re: Commander lost in Palm Springs? (cybersuperstore)
7. 12:35 PM - Re: Commander lost in Palm Springs? (Barry Collman)
8. 01:06 PM - Re: Commander lost in Palm Springs? (cybersuperstore)
9. 01:21 PM - Re: Commander lost in Palm Springs? (cybersuperstore)
10. 04:20 PM - Re: Commander lost in Palm Springs? (craig kennedy)
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Subject: | Re: Commander Spotting KGRR |
Barry,
There's a Commander 680 sitting at the Frederick airport in Maryland that's been
parked on the ramp for a number of years and hasn't moved. Next time I'm over
there I'll try and get photos for you..
Cheers,
Cate N4278S (680E)
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Subject: | Re: Commander Spotting KGRR |
Hi Cate!
It's possibly N790K, which is s/n 680-393-73 and has been with the Frederick
Community College since May 2000.
There's a photo of it on myaviation.net, but a better one will always be
most welcome!
Best Regards,
Barry
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Barry,
There's a Commander 680 sitting at the Frederick airport in Maryland that's
been parked on the ramp for a number of years and hasn't moved. Next time
I'm over there I'll try and get photos for you..
Cheers,
Cate N4278S (680E)
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Subject: | Re: Commander Spotting KGRR |
Hi Barry,
Yep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did think I saw someone doing
something to it last year. I will try and get some shots next spring when I'm
over there again.
I had a bad run with a fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he grounded
my 680E, N4278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after he
tore the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit.
Luckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now got
new boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying again. When
the props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per prop she would have
been grounded...
Cate
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N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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Subject: | Re: Commander Spotting KGRR |
HI CATE,Good to have you back!! Merry Christmas!! Hope the Commander is
working well. jb
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From: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
.com>
Hi Barry,
Yep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did think I saw someon
e
oing something to it last year. I will try and get some shots next spring
when
'm over there again.
had a bad run with a fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he gro
unded
y 680E, N4278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after
he
ore the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit.
uckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now
got
ew boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying again.
When
he props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per prop she would
have
een grounded...
Cate
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ate
N4278S 680E
kywagon N180PK
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Subject: | Re: Commander Spotting KGRR |
Hi Jim,
It's good to be back. It was challenging (to say the least at times) but fun flying
that Air ambulance into the back country of Guyana and HOT!
Thanks for all your help in getting my 680E flying again. I flew it 10 days ago
from Tiffin to Dayton (MGY, but not Commander Aero) for it's annual. Flew great.
Merry Christmas and a happy New year to you and Sue!
Cate
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Subject: | Commander lost in Palm Springs? |
I thought I heard a radio news-flash that a "10-seater Aero Commander" was
lost in Palm Springs. Only the pilot was on board and apparently flew into
terra firma. I haven't heard anything yet or it could also be that I wasn't
paying attention.
Does anyone know of such an event?
Nico
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Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
HI CATE,Good to have you back!! Merry Christmas!! Hope the Commander is
working well. jb
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From: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
<cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Hi Barry,
Yep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did think I saw someone
doing something to it last year. I will try and get some shots next spring
when
I'm over there again.
I had a bad run with a fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he
grounded
my 680E, N4278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after
he
tore the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit.
Luckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now
got
new boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying again.
When
the props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per prop she would
have
been grounded...
Cate
--------
Cate
N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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Subject: | Commander lost in Palm Springs? |
Hi Nico,
Bert Berry sent me a heads-up on this a few hours ago.
The Commander that crashed on December 20th was N316KW, 680FL s/n 1753-146.
According the FAA's preliminary accident data website
(www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/), it went
down near Perris, CA.
Best Regards,
Barry
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Sent: 21 December 2010 19:15
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?
I thought I heard a radio news-flash that a "10-seater Aero Commander" was
lost in Palm Springs. Only the pilot was on board and apparently flew into
terra firma. I haven't heard anything yet or it could also be that I wasn't
paying attention.
Does anyone know of such an event?
Nico
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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
HI CATE,Good to have you back!! Merry Christmas!! Hope the Commander is
working well. jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
<cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Hi Barry,
Yep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did think I saw someone
doing something to it last year. I will try and get some shots next spring
when
I'm over there again.
I had a bad run with a fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he
grounded
my 680E, N4278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after
he
tore the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit.
Luckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now
got
new boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying again.
When
the props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per prop she would
have
been grounded...
Cate
--------
Cate
N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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Subject: | Commander lost in Palm Springs? |
Thanks, Barry. So sad.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?
Hi Nico,
Bert Berry sent me a heads-up on this a few hours ago.
The Commander that crashed on December 20th was N316KW, 680FL s/n 1753-146.
According the FAA's preliminary accident data website
(www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/), it went
down near Perris, CA.
Best Regards,
Barry
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cybersuperstore
Sent: 21 December 2010 19:15
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?
I thought I heard a radio news-flash that a "10-seater Aero Commander" was
lost in Palm Springs. Only the pilot was on board and apparently flew into
terra firma. I haven't heard anything yet or it could also be that I wasn't
paying attention.
Does anyone know of such an event?
Nico
_____
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yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
HI CATE,Good to have you back!! Merry Christmas!! Hope the Commander is
working well. jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
<cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Hi Barry,
Yep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did think I saw someone
doing something to it last year. I will try and get some shots next spring
when
I'm over there again.
I had a bad run with a fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he
grounded
my 680E, N4278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after
he
tore the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit.
Luckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now
got
new boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying again.
When
the props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per prop she would
have
been grounded...
Cate
--------
Cate
N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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Subject: | Commander lost in Palm Springs? |
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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?
Thanks, Barry. So sad.
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?
Hi Nico,
Bert Berry sent me a heads-up on this a few hours ago.
The Commander that crashed on December 20th was N316KW, 680FL s/n 1753-146.
According the FAA's preliminary accident data website
(www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/), it went
down near Perris, CA.
Best Regards,
Barry
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cybersuperstore
Sent: 21 December 2010 19:15
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?
I thought I heard a radio news-flash that a "10-seater Aero Commander" was
lost in Palm Springs. Only the pilot was on board and apparently flew into
terra firma. I haven't heard anything yet or it could also be that I wasn't
paying attention.
Does anyone know of such an event?
Nico
_____
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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
HI CATE,Good to have you back!! Merry Christmas!! Hope the Commander is
working well. jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR
<cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Hi Barry,
Yep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did think I saw someone
doing something to it last year. I will try and get some shots next spring
when
I'm over there again.
I had a bad run with a fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he
grounded
my 680E, N4278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after
he
tore the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit.
Luckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now
got
new boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying again.
When
the props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per prop she would
have
been grounded...
Cate
--------
Cate
N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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Subject: | Re: Commander lost in Palm Springs? |
Can I get the ownership chain on that bird please?=0A=0ACraig=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: cybersuperstore <nico@cybersupe
rstore.com>=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, December 21, 20
10 1:03:04 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs
?=0A=0A =0AThanks, Barry. So sad. =0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0A From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-comma
nder-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman=0ASent: Tuesday
, December 21, 2010 12:30 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject:
RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs?=0A=0A=0AHi Nico,=0A
=0ABert Berry sent me a heads-up on this a few hours ago.=0AThe Commander
that crashed on December 20th was N316KW, 680FL s/n 1753-146.=0AAccording
the FAA=99s preliminary accident data website =0A(www.faa.gov/data_
research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/), it went down =0Anear Perris
, CA.=0A =0ABest Regards,=0ABarry=0A =0AFrom:owner-commander-list-server@m
atronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Beha
lf Of cybersuperstore=0ASent: 21 December 2010 19:15=0ATo: commander-list@m
atronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Commander lost in Palm Springs
?=0A =0AI thought I heard a radio news-flash that a "10-seater Aero Comman
der" was lost =0Ain Palm Springs. Only the pilot was on board and apparent
ly flew into terra =0Afirma. I haven't heard anything yet or it could also
be that I wasn't paying =0Aattention. =0A=0A =0ADoes anyone know of such
an event?=0A =0ANico=0A =0A =0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A
=0AFrom:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-command
er-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com=0ASent: Tuesday
, December 21, 2010 10:25 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject:
Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR=0AHI CATE,Good to have y
ou back!! Merry Christmas!! Hope the Commander is =0Aworking well. jb
=0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimatea
ir.com>=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 8:58
am=0ASubject: Commander-List: Re: Commander Spotting KGRR=0A--> Commander-
List message posted by: "Cate Chagnot" <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>=0A =0AHi
Barry,=0A =0AYep, I think that's it. It just sits there though I did thin
k I saw someone =0Adoing something to it last year. I will try and get some
shots next spring when =0AI'm over there again. =0AI had a bad run with a
fanatical FAA inspector there last summer and he grounded =0A=0Amy 680E, N4
278S basically for a ratty paint job and bad de-ice boots after he =0Atore
the patches off the boots. It was touch and go getting a ferry permit. =0AL
uckily he was off the day I got one issued by another inspector. It's now g
ot =0Anew boots and Queen Air props (courtesy Jim Metzger) and is flying ag
ain. When =0Athe props didn't pass I was worried because at $30,000 per pro
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