Commander-List Digest Archive

Thu 12/23/10


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 05:22 AM - Re: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560 (Barry Collman)
     2. 05:47 AM - Re:  (BillLeff1@aol.com)
     3. 07:00 AM - Re: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560 (Barry Collman)
     4. 09:41 AM - Fw: CHRIS HAAG SHRIKE (yourtcfg@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:22:44 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander
    560 Hello Marcos, I cannot help with your wiring diagram problem, but Richard's suggestion of contacting Twin Commander is your best option. Geoffrey Pence or Bill Ball (the Engineering Librarian) should be able to help, although Bill is not at work until early in January, as he's been in hospital. Which Commander are you restoring? Certainly good news that one of the early examples is being cared for! Best Regards, Barry Collman From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Della Sent: 22 December 2010 21:41 Subject: Commander-List: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560 Hi folks, I've been looking for this for awhile just to get an idea of what the original wiring in my commander was supposed to look like. Probably 40-50% of the wiring has been "upgraded/replaced/modified" however much of the older braided wiring is still in place and connecting to things that few of the A/Ps around here can readily identify. At least for function we can figure much out, but not necessary where the wires go from there. Since this is a restoration project, I'm not in any time rush, but would like to get a handle on much of the wiring (and the removal of much of the older unused wiring) while the plane is in pieces... Marcos P.S. This is for an Aero Commander 560 (GO-480 engines).


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    Time: 05:47:56 AM PST US
    From: "BillLeff1@aol.com" <BillLeff1@aol.com>
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    Yea, but he will help you restart it: Right? Sorry guys, inside joke. Merry Christmas! Bill Leff Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: "Steele, Bob" <Bob.Steele@kzf.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2010 23:51:37 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Commander-List: Not the one you are looking for - but still funny! Santa and the FAA > Santa Claus, like all pilots, gets regular visits from > the Federal Aviation Administration, and it was shortly before Christmas > when the FAA examiner arrived. > In preparation, Santa had the elves wash the sled and > bathe all the reindeer. Santa got out his logbook and made sure all his > paperwork was in order. > The examiner walked slowly around the sled. He checked > the reindeer harnesses, the landing gear, and Rudolph's nose. He > painstakingly reviewed Santa's weight and balance calculations for the > sled's enormous payload. > Finally, they were ready for the checkride. Santa got in > and fastened his seatbelt and shoulder harness, and checked the compass. > Then the examiner hopped in carrying, to Santa's surprise, a shotgun. > "What's that for?" asked Santa incredulously. > The examiner winked and said, "I'm not supposed to tell > you this, but you're gonna lose an engine on takeoff." -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:46 PM Subject: Commander-List: <jtaddington@verizon.net> Does any one have or know where I can find a copy of the FAA vs. Mr. Claus. It is where the FAA inspector is going to give Santa a big violation. He can not find where he has a medical much less an IFR ticket and he is sure that the spar in the slay is not strong enough to carry all those toys. He knows that one red light is not legal for night and he also knows that flying one night a year does not meet the rules for IFR. It has a lot more. Jim N444BD


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    Time: 07:00:48 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander
    560 Hello All, John Towner is unable to reply to postings on the chatlist, so I've copied input from him as follows: "I have been reading TCFG comments about wiring diagrams for AC's. My computer will not let me reply to TCFG. Just my 2 cents worth. When we have purchased a Commander to put into service (cargo) we have removed all avionics and wiring, installed new instrument panels etc., removing about 350 lbs of weight and installed new King silver crown avionics and antennas weighting about 55 lbs total giving us about 300 lbs more useful load. I can tell many stories about flying with the old avionics, not being able to talk to anyone and needing to obtain light gun signals to land. OH! Merry Christmas and have a great holiday season." Best Regards, Barry


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    Time: 09:41:34 AM PST US
    Subject: CHRIS HAAG SHRIKE
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    -----Original Message----- From: John Towner <johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com> Cc: Andrew Towner <andrewtowner@centralairsouthwest.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2010 11:57 am Subject: [Fwd: Commander-List: CHRIS HAAG SHRIKE] Hi Jim, Just read your TCFG note on misfueling. The stories are endless and the fuel caps we lost prior to 1985 are pretty scary. I think I told you in 1985 we changed to a different fuel cap that has really saved the day for us many times since. I think we have been misfueled over the years 8-10 times and caught it every time before takeoff except once and our pilot dead sticked it back (very lucky). Give Sue a hug and have a great Christmas and holiday season. YOUR old FRIEND, JT Attached Message From: yourtcfg@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: CHRIS HAAG SHRIKE Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:05:05 -0500 HI KIDS..Those of you who are a registered Commander owner should soon rec eived your copy of Twin&Turbine magazine. On the cover is a great photo of Chris Haag's ill fated Shrike There is a well written several page st ory inside. You will remember that it was tragically miss-fueled in Canad a and a total loss. I was standing next to this wonderful airplane only days before it was lost. No one was injured, but is is so sad to be remi nded of the loss. Chris poured his soul (and countless $$$) into this dre am Commander. jb ( PS Don't you just love the repaint in the original Shrike scheme!!!) jb ======================== =========== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: -= -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Commander-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== ===========




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