---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/27/10: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:06 AM - Re: SEE BARRY COLLMAN (Barry Collman) 2. 06:41 AM - Twin & Turbine Article (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 3. 07:27 AM - Re: Twin & Turbine Article (Barry Collman) 4. 08:50 AM - Re: Twin & Turbine Article (cybersuperstore) 5. 10:28 AM - Re: Twin & Turbine Article (Barry Collman) 6. 07:53 PM - Re: Twin & Turbine Article (Andrew & Bridget Watson) 7. 09:03 PM - Twin & Turbine Article (Bichier, Peter) 8. 09:54 PM - Re: Re: SEE BARRY COLLMAN (William J Hamilton) 9. 10:36 PM - Re: Twin & Turbine Article (William J Hamilton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:53 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN Hello All, Well, what can I say? Elaine agrees that Geoffrey Rush, the actor playing the part of Lionel, does look like me! I thought I looked more like Jack Straw, a politician and former Home Secretary. As ffffor the ssstammer, nnno way! Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: 27 December 2010 05:21 Subject: Re: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN Certainly not!!!!!! Barry look like the hero, Lionel, the speech therapist. jb -----Original Message----- From: lloyd silverman Sent: Sun, Dec 26, 2010 6:25 pm Subject: Re: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN I DON'T THINK SIR BARRY STAMMERS. ----- Original Message ----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:39 PM Subject: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN HI KIDS.Sue and I just saw the new movie THE KING'S SPEECH. Great movie and one of the lead actors, (the hero of the story), looks and even acts like our own incredible Barry Collman!! For those of you who have not had the honor of meeting Barry, You can get a great idea what he looks like by seeing this film. 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Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of his upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. Happy New Year everyone..!! Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:15 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hello Randy, I haven't seen the article but I guess Chris Haag, a good friend of mine who owned the Shrike and is helping with the book, got that published. I'm hoping he'll forward a copy of the article, as one is supposed to be sent to him by the publishers. Hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas and send very best wishes for 2011. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: 27 December 2010 14:38 Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Great article in the latest "Twin & Turbine" magazine about the Shrike Commander (Cover article). Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of his upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. Happy New Year everyone..!! Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:41 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hi Barry, Would it be presumptuous to hope that the Commander list's members would get an advance copy of the book when it goes on sale? Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:22 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hello Randy, I haven't seen the article but I guess Chris Haag, a good friend of mine who owned the Shrike and is helping with the book, got that published. I'm hoping he'll forward a copy of the article, as one is supposed to be sent to him by the publishers. Hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas and send very best wishes for 2011. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: 27 December 2010 14:38 Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Great article in the latest "Twin & Turbine" magazine about the Shrike Commander (Cover article). Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of his upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. Happy New Year everyone..!! Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:55 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hi Nico, The short answer is I don't know! The book is still some way off and a publication date, and indeed a publisher, are not yet known. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cybersuperstore Sent: 27 December 2010 16:47 Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hi Barry, Would it be presumptuous to hope that the Commander list's members would get an advance copy of the book when it goes on sale? Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:22 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hello Randy, I haven't seen the article but I guess Chris Haag, a good friend of mine who owned the Shrike and is helping with the book, got that published. I'm hoping he'll forward a copy of the article, as one is supposed to be sent to him by the publishers. Hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas and send very best wishes for 2011. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: 27 December 2010 14:38 Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Great article in the latest "Twin & Turbine" magazine about the Shrike Commander (Cover article). Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of his upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. Happy New Year everyone..!! Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:16 PM PST US From: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hi Barry, If you want some advice about a publisher to avoid, contact me off-list. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Collman To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hi Nico, The short answer is I don't know! The book is still some way off and a publication date, and indeed a publisher, are not yet known. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cybersuperstore Sent: 27 December 2010 16:47 To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hi Barry, Would it be presumptuous to hope that the Commander list's members would get an advance copy of the book when it goes on sale? Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:22 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hello Randy, I haven't seen the article but I guess Chris Haag, a good friend of mine who owned the Shrike and is helping with the book, got that published. I'm hoping he'll forward a copy of the article, as one is supposed to be sent to him by the publishers. Hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas and send very best wishes for 2011. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Dettmer, AIA Sent: 27 December 2010 14:38 To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Great article in the latest "Twin & Turbine" magazine about the Shrike Commander (Cover article). Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of his upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. Happy New Year everyone..!! Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X Dettmer Architecture 663 Hill Street San Luis Obispo, CA 93405 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865 www.dettmerarchitecture.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:08 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article From: "Bichier, Peter" Commanders, Dianne White (Twin & Turbine editor) kindly shared the article with me: Follow this link to the e-edition! http://digital.turn-page.com/issue/20532 Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! Peter Bichier Lake Erie Center (Univeristy of Toledo) Department of Environmental Sciences (419) 530-8384 -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Barry Collman Sent: Mon 12/27/2010 10:22 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Hello Randy, I haven't seen the article but I guess Chris Haag, a good friend of mine who owned the Shrike and is helping with the book, got that published. I'm hoping he'll forward a copy of the article, as one is supposed to be sent to him by the publishers. Hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas and send very best wishes for 2011. Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com Dettmer, AIA Sent: 27 December 2010 14:38 Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article Great article in the latest "Twin & Turbine" magazine about the Shrike Commander (Cover article). Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of his upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. Happy New Year everyone..!! Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB 680F / N6253X ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:42 PM PST US From: William J Hamilton Subject: Re: Re: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN Folks, The speech therapist was a little heralded Australian, at long last, thanks to Hollywood, his pioneering work might gain the recognition it has long deserved. Cheers, Bill Hamilton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > yourtcfg@aol.com wrote: > > Certainly not!!!!!! > Barry look like the hero, Lionel, the speech therapist. jb > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lloyd silverman > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sun, Dec 26, 2010 6:25 pm > Subject: Re: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN > > > > I DON'T THINK SIR BARRY STAMMERS. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: yourtcfg@aol.com > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:39 PM > Subject: Commander-List: SEE BARRY COLLMAN > > > > > > HI KIDS.Sue and I just saw the new movie THE KING'S SPEECH. Great movie > and one of the lead actors, (the hero of the story), looks and even acts > like our own incredible Barry Collman!! For those of you who have not > had the honor of meeting Barry, You can get a great idea what he looks > like by seeing this film. 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However, there was one quite disturbing "recommendation" in using the JPI to run the engines 20 degrees on the rich side of peak EGT, a recipe for maximizing the chance of detonation. If you want to run rich of peak, make it more like 40+ colder. If the engines had a set of GAMI injectors, you would be able to run on the lean side of peak EGT. Another furphie ( an Australian expression --- a bit like a factual Murphie --- but that ain't where the word came from) is that minimum fuel flow is at peak EGT ---- not if you are running lean of peak, it isn't. I also notice another bit of disinformation in another article about in-flight icing, repeating "old wives tales" about the temperature range for icing, we have known better for the last 40 or so years. Cheers, Bill Hamilton > Bichier, Peter wrote: > > Commanders, > > Dianne White (Twin & Turbine editor) kindly shared the article with me: > > Follow this link to the e-edition! > > http://digital.turn-page.com/issue/20532 > > Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! > > Peter Bichier > Lake Erie Center (Univeristy of Toledo) > Department of Environmental Sciences > (419) 530-8384 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Barry > Collman > Sent: Mon 12/27/2010 10:22 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article > > Hello Randy, > > I haven't seen the article but I guess Chris Haag, a good friend of mine > who > owned the Shrike and is helping with the book, got that published. > > I'm hoping he'll forward a copy of the article, as one is supposed to be > sent to him by the publishers. > > Hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas and send very best wishes for > 2011. > > Best Regards, > > Barry > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > Dettmer, AIA > Sent: 27 December 2010 14:38 > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Twin & Turbine Article > > Great article in the latest "Twin & Turbine" magazine about the Shrike > Commander (Cover article). Also kudos to Barry Coleman for a mention of > his > upcoming book about Commanders. Nice going Barry. 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