---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/03/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:34 AM - Re: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (Chris) 2. 05:40 AM - Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (n395v) 3. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (yourtcfg@aol.com) 4. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (cybersuperstore) 5. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (John Vormbaum) 6. 12:54 PM - Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (n395v) 7. 08:36 PM - Re: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (Jack B. Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:38 AM PST US From: Chris Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. Tylor Hall wrote: > Can a owner make Aviation Hydraulic Hoses for his own plane? > The FARs are very specific about a limited set of approved tasks an owner can perform Tylor. You'll need a licensed mechanic to be involved with the hoses. Remember that you can do anything as long as you are being supervised by an A&P. AC43.13 has specific guidance for proper assembly, testing, and documentation. Chris ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:13 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. From: "n395v" > Can a owner make Aviation Hydraulic Hoses for his own plane? > Hose and fitting are easy. > What about paper work and record keeping???? > Don't ask, don't tell. Who's gonna know. If you have confidence in your own ability I wouldn't hesitate to put home made hose on it. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325414#325414 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. From: yourtcfg@aol.com First, it is not legal, but................ Making hoses is not as easy as it sounds. takes special tools and there are some tricks that only ex perience can teach. If it fails, it can be a real problem. jb -----Original Message----- From: n395v Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:37 am Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. > Can a owner make Aviation Hydraulic Hoses for his own plane? Hose and fitting are easy. What about paper work and record keeping???? on't ask, don't tell. Who's gonna know. If you have confidence in your own ability I wouldn't hesitate to put hom e made ose on it. -------- ilt ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325414#325414 ======================== =========== -= - The Commander-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:51 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. I am wondering, if it becomes evident after a crash, whether passengers' life insurance would be compromised. _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. First, it is not legal, but................ Making hoses is not as easy as it sounds. takes special tools and there are some tricks that only experience can teach. If it fails, it can be a real problem. jb -----Original Message----- From: n395v Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 5:37 am Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. > Can a owner make Aviation Hydraulic Hoses for his own plane? > Hose and fitting are easy. > What about paper work and record keeping???? > Don't ask, don't tell. Who's gonna know. If you have confidence in your own ability I wouldn't hesitate to put home made hose on it. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325414#325414 =================================== t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List =================================== tp://forums.matronics.com =================================== _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:27 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. Having spent hours helping Morris scrub 5606 off my airplane, plus the money to fix a *very* gentle nosegear collapse, I am of the opinion that if you have an airplane that has a 1,000 psi hydraulic system, you might want to invest in some very nicely built professional-quality hoses. Of course, we've had some hoses come from the 'big guys' that failed too, so there's that... /J -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n395v Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:38 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. > Can a owner make Aviation Hydraulic Hoses for his own plane? > Hose and fitting are easy. > What about paper work and record keeping???? > Don't ask, don't tell. Who's gonna know. If you have confidence in your own ability I wouldn't hesitate to put home made hose on it. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325414#325414 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:23 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. From: "n395v" > I am wondering, if it becomes evident after a crash, whether passengers' life insurance would be compromised. > I doubt it would affect their insurance but it would certainly negate the insurance on the aircraft which, to me, would be the single best reason not to build your own. As John mentions even hose built by the pros can fail so in my mind if you have done it before, have the skill, knowledge, and equipment to make and test them I would not hesitate to do so. As for the legality, being one who has spent a lifetime playing by the rules and trying to not break the law I must say the way our own government is trampling the constitution and screwing those who have spent a lifetime playing by the rules........well lets just say legal is not a huge concern I have. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325478#325478 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:22 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Mills" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. If you make them yourself they don't have the stainless band that has the info. on it that a certified shop will place on a new hose. I have been told that I can't make the hoses because they are commercially available from several faa approved shops. -------------------------------------------------- From: "n395v" Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. > > > >> Can a owner make Aviation Hydraulic Hoses for his own plane? >> Hose and fitting are easy. >> What about paper work and record keeping???? >> > > > Don't ask, don't tell. > > Who's gonna know. > > If you have confidence in your own ability I wouldn't hesitate to put home > made hose on it. > > -------- > Milt > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325414#325414 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.