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| Subject: | Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. |
Filters can be installed with a one time field inspection. Chris at
Security Aviation did my 680Fp some time ago, and I believe that he has
multiple instillation permission.
Moe
N680RR
680Fp
From: craig kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions.
They have a screen, but there is an stc for a filter.
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From: stratobee <adam@adamfrisch.com>
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 5:18:59 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. |
One lesson that still sticks in my mind was one I learned at my first
Commander fly-in in '99, while having a cocktail with Morris and Keith
Gordon (at that point I had about 150 hours in my 500B....100% of my
experience in twins....and barely more as PIC of anything). They
mentioned that it's very easy to fly a Commander into a strip that you
could never leave. That lesson was driven home at the conclusion of
that trip, when, as a test, I flew a slightly slower approach and
landed my airplane to a full stop in about 800 feet. Granted, I have
Clevelands on my airplane. Still, it's not difficult to do.
On the other hand, I've left Lake Tahoe (6,250 MSL) in august at 85
deg.F. And had the gear in the wells in 3,000 feet of runway, with
full tanks, 4 people and baggage on board, exactly as Morris predicted
during my nervous pre-takeoff phone call to him. Normally aspirated,
as my turbos were broken at the time.
These airplanes are amazingly capable.
/J
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2011, at 7:55 PM, cybersuperstore <nico@cybersuperstore.com> wrote:
>
> Once you go into a strip under 2500' you have to ignore stop-start
> distances. When you open the taps on takeoff, you have no more than 10
> seconds to decide to abandon. Otherwise, you fly. Period. If you lose an
> engine after that, you have a single-engine heavy weight on your hands. With
> proper energy management you would be slightly better off than a single that
> lost an engine, but you aren't going anywhere far anyway. I think it was Bob
> Hoover who said, fly the plane as far into the accident as you possibly can.
>
>
> I liked what Cate said, practice, practice and when you are done, practice
> again. (paraphrased). Going into the general flying area and setting up an
> imaginary runway at a particular altitude can give one surprising insight
> into problems close to the 'ground'.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stratobee
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:41 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions.
>
>
> Is it worth changing to an oil filter system? I've heard the screens don't
> clean as well as an oil filter and are harder to get to.
>
> Also, the 520 being so light and small - what would a reasonable take off
> distance be full tanks, 2 persons on board, standard day, sea level?
> Ballpark figure. I've heard some people operating out of 1400ft, but that
> seems close to the bone. There's a guy at 15WA airfield in Washington who
> regularly flies his 500 out of that 2000ft grass strip, so I'm assuming a
> tarmac 1400ft field could be OK.
>
> Here's a link to his landings:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctf1ZycVag8
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325659#325659
>
>
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