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Subject: | Garrett TPE 331 - 10 Bendix fuel controller |
Dear Commander Owners,
The Bendix fuel controller malfunctioned on my 690 A..Have it in the service
center and they tell me it needs a rebuild . Does anyone have a new or
rebuilt they want to sell? Or is there a update program to convert to
Woodward fuel controllers ? apprecitate your input ..Nick or call my cell
310 386 8333
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1. 10:13 AM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (stratobee)
2. 10:38 AM - Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. (stratobee)
3. 11:37 AM - NICE FLIGHT (Peter Bichier)
4. 11:53 AM - Fw: Great Quote This guy is my hero for 2011
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5. 02:08 PM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (stratobee)
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Time: 10:13:46 AM PST US
Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
In pictures online it seems to have tiny 4 blade props - does it still have
that?
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Time: 10:38:13 AM PST US
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions.
From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
So, pre-buy with Morris is done and showing no real surprises. Pretty good
shape for her age. She will need a bit of TLC - some of it I will have to
take care of straight out of the gate, some can wait until the annual in
June and some can wait indefinitely.
Main things need taking care of, I think:
- Three brake pads need replacing. The seller has some, but he said they
might be "homemade" by the previous owner, so not spec. I didn't get to see
them.
- There's also a small hydraulic leak in the right gear lock down mechanism.
Probably just a seal.
- Ailerons are over tightened and have the wrong bolts. This I think should
be addressed swiftly in case they start chafing or causing other damages.
- Fuel, hydraulic and vacuum hoses dry and brittle in engine compartments.
Needs swift fix.
- Pushrod tube seals leaking oil.
My aim is to fly her back to California beginning of Feb.
Morris was a huge help and after he flew back, I got to spend some time with
the machine. I'm very excited and she seems like a lovely, snubnosed
friendly plane.
I'm looking forward to many years of flying with her.
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Time: 11:37:24 AM PST US
From: Peter Bichier <pbichie@UTNet.UToledo.Edu>
Subject: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT
Hey Adam,
That's correct, she still has 4 blades and that is why she is so quiet...
It was great to see your 520, very special plane no doubt, yeahp, looks like
you got yourself a classic!
Well you know where I am, and if you need any assistance in making anything
happen, you know that a Commander lover is not too far from your bird so
just let me know.
Also, when you guys are getting close to get ready for the ferry, PLEASE let
me know, I'd love to hear those GO-435s come to life plus it looks like a
fun airport.
Take care and GOOD LUCK!
Peter
On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:11 PM, stratobee wrote:
> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
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> In pictures online it seems to have tiny 4 blade props - does it still
> have that?
>
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> Adam
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Time: 11:53:31 AM PST US
From: "sr14572@yahoo.com" <sr14572@yahoo.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Fw: Great Quote This guy is my hero for 2011
I hope you guys enjoy this=0A=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A>-=0A>Great Quote
=0A>>=0A>>---=0A>>--=0A>>You-Gotta- love-this Guy !!=0A>> =0A>>DON CHERRY,
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suspected- =0A>>terrorists.- His reply prompted his ejection f rom the
studio, but to thunderous =0A>>applause from the audience.=0A>>=0A>
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one Canadian =0A>>life, then I have only three things to say:-=0A>
>=0A>>Red is positive, black is negative, and make sure his nuts are wet."
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Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
Nice meeting you too and thanks for sharing your Commander memories from
back in the days.
I will make sure I give you a heads up before we come collect her.
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Adam
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Hi Peter,
Is there a difference in efficiency with the 4-blade props? I remember
reading somewhere that the Mr. RPM 800 conversions are hampered by the props
not being able to deliver all the power, which is a shame, but that aside
for now. If the 4-blade configuration is quieter (because of the shorter
blades?) and there is no penalty in performace, why would one not go that
route on all models?
Thanks
Nico
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Subject: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT
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Hey Adam,
That's correct, she still has 4 blades and that is why she is so quiet...
It was great to see your 520, very special plane no doubt, yeahp, looks like
you got yourself a classic!
Well you know where I am, and if you need any assistance in making anything
happen, you know that a Commander lover is not too far from your bird so
just let me know.
Also, when you guys are getting close to get ready for the ferry, PLEASE let
me know, I'd love to hear those GO-435s come to life plus it looks like a
fun airport.
Take care and GOOD LUCK!
Peter
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> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
>
> In pictures online it seems to have tiny 4 blade props - does it still
> have that?
>
> --------
> Adam
>
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Good Afternoon Nico,
Obviously, I have no knowledge at all when it comes to Aero Commanders, but
I do have a solitary experience with a four blade prop on a general
aviation aircraft.
The following is just my uninformed opinion.
Back in '96, I had Colemill install an IO-550-B and a four blade Q-Tip
Hartzell on my V35B Bonanza.
It was a disaster!
The initial acceleration was abominable and the climb was poor. Top speed
was reasonable for the power.
The good news is that it was quiet!
The interior cabin noise did seem lower, but I never measured it with any
instrumentation. The biggest comments came from my neighbors, They said my
airplane was now the quietest at our airfield. When I made a fly by a
friend's strip he said he could not hear me until I was right over the field and
he heard the engine noise before he could hear the propellor. His
description was that I just whooshed by.
After about 400 hundred hours, I took off the four blade and installed a
three blade McCauley 406. The difference was startling. Takeoff became
impressive and climb was much better than it had been with the 520 and way
better than with the four blade. I wish I could have tried a two blade as I
really think that would have the best takeoff and climb performance possible
with that engine on that airframe. I tried to find a two blade that would
work. Both Hartzell and McCauley told me that a two blade should work very well
and could easily absorb the power of the IO-550-B in the diameter that
would fit, but that I was the only person who had ever asked about a two blade
for that combination. The market was too small to bother with an approval.
I have many years flying four blade props on the DC-7. They did the job we
needed. We were told the airplane would have been more efficient if it
could have been fitted with three blade props. but the ground clearance
requirements could not be met with three blades long enough to absorb the power.
As you are probably well aware, the Super Connie using the same engines did
have sufficient ground clearance to swing a three blade and that is what
Lockheed chose to use.
Sooo! ---- The conclusion I have reached is that if noise is the most
important consideration, the lower tip speed of the small diameter four blade
is worth the loss in performance. If performance is the goal, use the fewest
number of blades that will absorb the power in the space allotted.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 1/19/2011 11:36:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
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<nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Hi Peter,
Is there a difference in efficiency with the 4-blade props? I remember
reading somewhere that the Mr. RPM 800 conversions are hampered by the
props
not being able to deliver all the power, which is a shame, but that aside
for now. If the 4-blade configuration is quieter (because of the shorter
blades?) and there is no penalty in performace, why would one not go that
route on all models?
Thanks
Nico
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