---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/19/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:14 AM - Garrett TPE 331 - 10 Bendix fuel controller () 2. 09:36 AM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (cybersuperstore) 3. 11:32 AM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (BobsV35B@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:33 AM PST US From: Subject: Commander-List: Garrett TPE 331 - 10 Bendix fuel controller Dear Commander Owners, The Bendix fuel controller malfunctioned on my 690 A..Have it in the service center and they tell me it needs a rebuild . Does anyone have a new or rebuilt they want to sell? Or is there a update program to convert to Woodward fuel controllers ? apprecitate your input ..Nick or call my cell 310 386 8333 -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Commander-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:56 PM Subject: Commander-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/18/11 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Commander-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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(stratobee) 3. 11:37 AM - NICE FLIGHT (Peter Bichier) 4. 11:53 AM - Fw: Great Quote This guy is my hero for 2011 (sr14572@yahoo.com) 5. 02:08 PM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (stratobee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:46 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT From: "stratobee" In pictures online it seems to have tiny 4 blade props - does it still have that? -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327447#327447 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:13 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 520 from 1953 questions. From: "stratobee" So, pre-buy with Morris is done and showing no real surprises. Pretty good shape for her age. She will need a bit of TLC - some of it I will have to take care of straight out of the gate, some can wait until the annual in June and some can wait indefinitely. Main things need taking care of, I think: - Three brake pads need replacing. The seller has some, but he said they might be "homemade" by the previous owner, so not spec. I didn't get to see them. - There's also a small hydraulic leak in the right gear lock down mechanism. Probably just a seal. - Ailerons are over tightened and have the wrong bolts. This I think should be addressed swiftly in case they start chafing or causing other damages. - Fuel, hydraulic and vacuum hoses dry and brittle in engine compartments. Needs swift fix. - Pushrod tube seals leaking oil. My aim is to fly her back to California beginning of Feb. Morris was a huge help and after he flew back, I got to spend some time with the machine. I'm very excited and she seems like a lovely, snubnosed friendly plane. I'm looking forward to many years of flying with her. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327448#327448 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/adamscommander_178.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:24 AM PST US From: Peter Bichier Subject: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT Hey Adam, That's correct, she still has 4 blades and that is why she is so quiet... It was great to see your 520, very special plane no doubt, yeahp, looks like you got yourself a classic! Well you know where I am, and if you need any assistance in making anything happen, you know that a Commander lover is not too far from your bird so just let me know. Also, when you guys are getting close to get ready for the ferry, PLEASE let me know, I'd love to hear those GO-435s come to life plus it looks like a fun airport. Take care and GOOD LUCK! Peter On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:11 PM, stratobee wrote: > > > In pictures online it seems to have tiny 4 blade props - does it still > have that? > > -------- > Adam > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:31 AM PST US From: "sr14572@yahoo.com" Subject: Commander-List: Fw: Great Quote This guy is my hero for 2011 I hope you guys enjoy this=0A=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A>-=0A>Great Quote =0A>>=0A>>---=0A>>--=0A>>You-Gotta- love-this Guy !!=0A>> =0A>>DON CHERRY, of-hockey night in- Canada -,-was asked on a local live radio talk =0A>>show just what he thought about the allegations of to rture of suspected- =0A>>terrorists.- His reply prompted his ejection f rom the studio, but to thunderous =0A>>applause from the audience.=0A>>=0A> >--------------- HIS- STATEMENT:=0A>>=0A>>" If hooking up one-raghead-terrorist prisoner's testicles to a car batte ry to =0A>>get the truth out of the lying little camel-shagger-will sav e just one Canadian =0A>>life, then I have only three things to say:-=0A> >=0A>>Red is positive, black is negative, and make sure his nuts are wet." =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:40 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT From: "stratobee" Nice meeting you too and thanks for sharing your Commander memories from back in the days. I will make sure I give you a heads up before we come collect her. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327469#327469 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:03 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT Hi Peter, Is there a difference in efficiency with the 4-blade props? I remember reading somewhere that the Mr. RPM 800 conversions are hampered by the props not being able to deliver all the power, which is a shame, but that aside for now. If the 4-blade configuration is quieter (because of the shorter blades?) and there is no penalty in performace, why would one not go that route on all models? Thanks Nico -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bichier Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:35 AM Subject: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Hey Adam, That's correct, she still has 4 blades and that is why she is so quiet... It was great to see your 520, very special plane no doubt, yeahp, looks like you got yourself a classic! Well you know where I am, and if you need any assistance in making anything happen, you know that a Commander lover is not too far from your bird so just let me know. Also, when you guys are getting close to get ready for the ferry, PLEASE let me know, I'd love to hear those GO-435s come to life plus it looks like a fun airport. Take care and GOOD LUCK! Peter On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:11 PM, stratobee wrote: > > > In pictures online it seems to have tiny 4 blade props - does it still > have that? > > -------- > Adam > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:25 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT Good Afternoon Nico, Obviously, I have no knowledge at all when it comes to Aero Commanders, but I do have a solitary experience with a four blade prop on a general aviation aircraft. The following is just my uninformed opinion. Back in '96, I had Colemill install an IO-550-B and a four blade Q-Tip Hartzell on my V35B Bonanza. It was a disaster! The initial acceleration was abominable and the climb was poor. Top speed was reasonable for the power. The good news is that it was quiet! The interior cabin noise did seem lower, but I never measured it with any instrumentation. The biggest comments came from my neighbors, They said my airplane was now the quietest at our airfield. When I made a fly by a friend's strip he said he could not hear me until I was right over the field and he heard the engine noise before he could hear the propellor. His description was that I just whooshed by. After about 400 hundred hours, I took off the four blade and installed a three blade McCauley 406. The difference was startling. Takeoff became impressive and climb was much better than it had been with the 520 and way better than with the four blade. I wish I could have tried a two blade as I really think that would have the best takeoff and climb performance possible with that engine on that airframe. I tried to find a two blade that would work. Both Hartzell and McCauley told me that a two blade should work very well and could easily absorb the power of the IO-550-B in the diameter that would fit, but that I was the only person who had ever asked about a two blade for that combination. The market was too small to bother with an approval. I have many years flying four blade props on the DC-7. They did the job we needed. We were told the airplane would have been more efficient if it could have been fitted with three blade props. but the ground clearance requirements could not be met with three blades long enough to absorb the power. As you are probably well aware, the Super Connie using the same engines did have sufficient ground clearance to swing a three blade and that is what Lockheed chose to use. Sooo! ---- The conclusion I have reached is that if noise is the most important consideration, the lower tip speed of the small diameter four blade is worth the loss in performance. If performance is the goal, use the fewest number of blades that will absorb the power in the space allotted. Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 1/19/2011 11:36:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: --> Commander-List message posted by: "cybersuperstore" Hi Peter, Is there a difference in efficiency with the 4-blade props? I remember reading somewhere that the Mr. RPM 800 conversions are hampered by the props not being able to deliver all the power, which is a shame, but that aside for now. If the 4-blade configuration is quieter (because of the shorter blades?) and there is no penalty in performace, why would one not go that route on all models? 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