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1. 03:48 AM - Re: Re: looking for 520 (Barry Collman)
2. 03:50 AM - Re: Re: Stuff available... (Barry Collman)
3. 05:40 AM - Re: Re: looking for 520 (Chris)
4. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Stuff available... (Tylor Hall)
5. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: Stuff available... (Barry Collman)
6. 07:43 AM - Re: Stuff available... (stratobee)
7. 05:28 PM - Urgent technical question - Magnetos for GO-435. (stratobee)
8. 05:49 PM - looking for 520 (Peter Bichier)
9. 06:01 PM - Re: Urgent technical question - Magnetos for GO-435. (Chris)
10. 06:05 PM - Re: looking for 520 (Chris)
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Subject: | Re: looking for 520 |
Hi Chris,
There was one 520 at Cushing a number of years ago, but it moved to Perry by
2007 and is still there.
The owner has since passed away and it's for sale.
s/n is 86, N4179B.
If there was another Commander there, then it could well be one of John
Towner's, as he has a maintenance facility there.
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 07 February 2011 22:54
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: looking for 520
> Looking for a 520 that is in OK someplace.
>
> If any one has any ideas, please let me know.
>
No idea if it's what you're looking for, but I recall seeing a Commander
stuffed in the corner of a hanger in Cushing, OK a few years ago.
Couldn't tell the exact model as I taxied by, but appeared to be either a
520 or 560. There also was a 520 (definitely ) in a large hanger that
appeared to be in fair shape.
Chris
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Subject: | Re: Stuff available... |
Tylor,
The photo can be seen at:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1222628
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 07 February 2011 23:17
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Barry,
You are all about lots of information.
Can you send us a photo?
Winglets are nice addition.
Tylor
On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Barry Collman wrote:
Hi Tylor,
N52WD is a Model 520, s/n 141 (formerly N21SA, N21S, N2629B).
Was bought on August 23rd 1997, as N21SA, by Declo Enterprises Inc., of
Lafayette, Indiana and re-registered as N52WD in December 1998.
On February 10th 2008, the FAA were advised by Declo Enterprises of a sale
in December 2006 to Kirt Young, Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Presumably, no Bill of Sale, Application for Registration and the $5 fee has
been submitted and it's currently listed as "sale reported".
I have a photo of it at Fond Du Lac County airport, Wisconsin, taken on July
31st 2003 but have nothing later.
It's been modified, with the installation of winglets.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 07 February 2011 18:12
Subject: Fwd: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Barry,
What do you have on N52WD?
Has any one seen this aircraft and where is it?
Tylor Hall
Begin forwarded message:
From: "James R. Borrego" <jrb3056@qwestoffice.net>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
N number of Aero Commander N52WD, model 520, 1954MFR, Mode S Code
51504215,-owner Kurt Young
James R Borrego
505-470-5550
_____
From: Tylor Hall [mailto:tylorhall@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Fwd: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Jim,
There are 2 public airports near El Reno, OK and 3 private airports.
The FAA is now requiring everyone to re-register all aircraft to get their
data base up to date.
i looked up the El Reno Regional on Google Maps and there appears to be a
Twin Commander sitting on the ramp.
Is this the aircraft you are looking for?
Tylor Hall
tylorhall@mac.com
First Fueling Systems, Inc.
100 Iron St. SE
Albuquerque, NM 87102
505-400-8373 Cell
505-247-3001
505-247-3005 FAX
www.firstfueling.com <http://www.firstfueling.com/>
Begin forwarded message:
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Hi Tylor,
Could be:
s/n 39, N411VV.
Repossessed by Minnwest Bank Ortonville, Ortonville, Minnesota but sold to
Charles R Wray, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
I saw it at El Reno Airpark, Oklahoma in October 2007.
If you get any clues, let me know.
e.g. who was the debtor?
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 05 February 2011 18:20
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Looking for a 520 that is in OK someplace.
My friend/client has been awarded ownership of a 520 from a bankruptcy
court.
He does not know the N number and does not seem to be able to get any
information from the debtor.
It is suppose to be at a small private airport in OK.
I remember seeing one for sale at one time in that area.
If any one has any ideas, please let me know.
Tylor Hall
tylorhall@mac.com
First Fueling Systems, Inc.
100 Iron St. SE
Albuquerque, NM 87102
505-400-8373 Cell
505-247-3001
505-247-3005 FAX
www.firstfueling.com <http://www.firstfueling.com/>
On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:09 AM, stratobee wrote:
Still got the GO-435 stuff? I might be able to stop by there on our way back
west from Detroit in the 520.
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Adam
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Subject: | Re: looking for 520 |
That's probably the one Barry. I recall that it was very close in s/n
to my bird (4186B). Do you have any pix or know if it's listed online
somewhere? If memory serves, it was in good condition when I last saw
it although that was probably 10-ish years ago.
chris
Barry Collman wrote:
> There was one 520 at Cushing a number of years ago, but it moved to Perry by
> 2007 and is still there.
> The owner has since passed away and it's for sale.
> s/n is 86, N4179B.
>
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Subject: | Re: Stuff available... |
Barry,
That is a good looking airplane. Is that the original style of paint?
Tylor
On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Barry Collman wrote:
> Tylor,
>
> The photo can be seen at:
> http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1222628
>
> Best Regards,
> Barry
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor
Hall
> Sent: 07 February 2011 23:17
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
>
> Barry,
> You are all about lots of information.
> Can you send us a photo?
> Winglets are nice addition.
> Tylor
>
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Barry Collman wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tylor,
>
> N52WD is a Model 520, s/n 141 (formerly N21SA, N21S, N2629B).
>
> Was bought on August 23rd 1997, as N21SA, by Declo Enterprises Inc.,
of Lafayette, Indiana and re-registered as N52WD in December 1998.
> On February 10th 2008, the FAA were advised by Declo Enterprises of a
sale in December 2006 to Kirt Young, Santa Fe, New Mexico.
> Presumably, no Bill of Sale, Application for Registration and the $5
fee has been submitted and it=92s currently listed as =93sale reported=94.
>
> I have a photo of it at Fond Du Lac County airport, Wisconsin, taken
on July 31st 2003 but have nothing later.
> It=92s been modified, with the installation of winglets.
>
> Best Regards,
> Barry
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor
Hall
> Sent: 07 February 2011 18:12
> To: Commander list
> Subject: Fwd: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
>
> Barry,
> What do you have on N52WD?
> Has any one seen this aircraft and where is it?
> Tylor Hall
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
> From: "James R. Borrego" <jrb3056@qwestoffice.net>
> Date: February 7, 2011 11:06:41 AM MST
> To: 'Tylor Hall' <tylorhall@mac.com>
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
>
>
>
> N number of Aero Commander N52WD, model 520, 1954MFR, Mode S Code
51504215,=97owner Kurt Young
> James R Borrego
> 505-470-5550
>
> From: Tylor Hall [mailto:tylorhall@mac.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:41 AM
> To: Jim Borrego
> Subject: Fwd: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
>
> Jim,
> There are 2 public airports near El Reno, OK and 3 private airports.
> The FAA is now requiring everyone to re-register all aircraft to get
their data base up to date.
> i looked up the El Reno Regional on Google Maps and there appears to
be a Twin Commander sitting on the ramp.
> Is this the aircraft you are looking for?
> Tylor Hall
> tylorhall@mac.com
> First Fueling Systems, Inc.
> 100 Iron St. SE
> Albuquerque, NM 87102
> 505-400-8373 Cell
> 505-247-3001
> 505-247-3005 FAX
> www.firstfueling.com
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
>
> From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> Date: February 5, 2011 1:22:19 PM MST
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
>
> Hi Tylor,
>
> Could be:
> s/n 39, N411VV.
> Repossessed by Minnwest Bank Ortonville, Ortonville, Minnesota but
sold to Charles R Wray, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
> I saw it at El Reno Airpark, Oklahoma in October 2007.
>
> If you get any clues, let me know.
> e.g. who was the debtor?
>
> Best Regards,
> Barry
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor
Hall
> Sent: 05 February 2011 18:20
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
>
> Looking for a 520 that is in OK someplace.
> My friend/client has been awarded ownership of a 520 from a bankruptcy
court.
> He does not know the N number and does not seem to be able to get any
information from the debtor.
> It is suppose to be at a small private airport in OK.
> I remember seeing one for sale at one time in that area.
> If any one has any ideas, please let me know.
>
> Tylor Hall
> tylorhall@mac.com
> First Fueling Systems, Inc.
> 100 Iron St. SE
> Albuquerque, NM 87102
> 505-400-8373 Cell
> 505-247-3001
> 505-247-3005 FAX
> www.firstfueling.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:09 AM, stratobee wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
<adam@adamfrisch.com>
>
> Still got the GO-435 stuff? I might be able to stop by there on our
way back west from Detroit in the 520.
>
> --------
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329744#329744
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Subject: | Re: Stuff available... |
Hi Tylor,
No, definitely not!
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 08 February 2011 13:58
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Barry,
That is a good looking airplane. Is that the original style of paint?
Tylor
On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Barry Collman wrote:
Tylor,
The photo can be seen at:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1222628
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 07 February 2011 23:17
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Barry,
You are all about lots of information.
Can you send us a photo?
Winglets are nice addition.
Tylor
On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Barry Collman wrote:
Hi Tylor,
N52WD is a Model 520, s/n 141 (formerly N21SA, N21S, N2629B).
Was bought on August 23rd 1997, as N21SA, by Declo Enterprises Inc., of
Lafayette, Indiana and re-registered as N52WD in December 1998.
On February 10th 2008, the FAA were advised by Declo Enterprises of a sale
in December 2006 to Kirt Young, Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Presumably, no Bill of Sale, Application for Registration and the $5 fee has
been submitted and it's currently listed as "sale reported".
I have a photo of it at Fond Du Lac County airport, Wisconsin, taken on July
31st 2003 but have nothing later.
It's been modified, with the installation of winglets.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 07 February 2011 18:12
Subject: Fwd: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Barry,
What do you have on N52WD?
Has any one seen this aircraft and where is it?
Tylor Hall
Begin forwarded message:
From: "James R. Borrego" <jrb3056@qwestoffice.net>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
N number of Aero Commander N52WD, model 520, 1954MFR, Mode S Code
51504215,-owner Kurt Young
James R Borrego
505-470-5550
_____
From: Tylor Hall [mailto:tylorhall@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:41 AM
Subject: Fwd: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Jim,
There are 2 public airports near El Reno, OK and 3 private airports.
The FAA is now requiring everyone to re-register all aircraft to get their
data base up to date.
i looked up the El Reno Regional on Google Maps and there appears to be a
Twin Commander sitting on the ramp.
Is this the aircraft you are looking for?
Tylor Hall
tylorhall@mac.com
First Fueling Systems, Inc.
100 Iron St. SE
Albuquerque, NM 87102
505-400-8373 Cell
505-247-3001
505-247-3005 FAX
www.firstfueling.com <http://www.firstfueling.com/>
Begin forwarded message:
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Hi Tylor,
Could be:
s/n 39, N411VV.
Repossessed by Minnwest Bank Ortonville, Ortonville, Minnesota but sold to
Charles R Wray, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
I saw it at El Reno Airpark, Oklahoma in October 2007.
If you get any clues, let me know.
e.g. who was the debtor?
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: 05 February 2011 18:20
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Stuff available...
Looking for a 520 that is in OK someplace.
My friend/client has been awarded ownership of a 520 from a bankruptcy
court.
He does not know the N number and does not seem to be able to get any
information from the debtor.
It is suppose to be at a small private airport in OK.
I remember seeing one for sale at one time in that area.
If any one has any ideas, please let me know.
Tylor Hall
tylorhall@mac.com
First Fueling Systems, Inc.
100 Iron St. SE
Albuquerque, NM 87102
505-400-8373 Cell
505-247-3001
505-247-3005 FAX
www.firstfueling.com <http://www.firstfueling.com/>
On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:09 AM, stratobee wrote:
Still got the GO-435 stuff? I might be able to stop by there on our way back
west from Detroit in the 520.
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Subject: | Re: Stuff available... |
Chris.
I'm still waiting to hear from Jim if he has the time to fly it back next week.
If we do, and the weather is agreeable, we might be able to route through Oklahoma.
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Subject: | Urgent technical question - Magnetos for GO-435. |
So, I'm watching an online auction on a Bendix S6LN-50 magneto that's supposed
to go on the GO-435-C2 that I have. But when I look up that engine, it says it
should have an S6LN-20 magneto. Is this simply an older designation and can I
buy it, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Best,
Adam
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Chris,
It certainly looks like she was a great ship... but the same can be
said of N411V and now...
Anyways, here the link:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=Aero+Commander+N4179B&fields=all&sort=latest&limit=10
On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Chris wrote:
>
> That's probably the one Barry. I recall that it was very close in s/
> n to my bird (4186B). Do you have any pix or know if it's listed
> online somewhere? If memory serves, it was in good condition when I
> last saw it although that was probably 10-ish years ago.
> chris
>
>
> Barry Collman wrote:
>> There was one 520 at Cushing a number of years ago, but it moved to
>> Perry by
>> 2007 and is still there.
>> The owner has since passed away and it's for sale.
>> s/n is 86, N4179B.
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Urgent technical question - Magnetos for GO-435. |
stratobee wrote:
> So, I'm watching an online auction on a Bendix S6LN-50 magneto that's supposed
to go on the GO-435-C2 that I have. But when I look up that engine, it says
it should have an S6LN-20 magneto. Is this simply an older designation and can
I buy it, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
>
Bummer! I sure wish I still had all the notes from my 520 days. There
is a trick here and I'm trying to remember the details. The orig. mag
is pretty much non-existent as I recall, but you can take the impulse
coupler or drive dog off and install it on a slightly different model
(which gets the shaft length right and is readily available) and it
works perfectly. Ring a bell with anyone??? Morris? Check the TCDS
between a -C2 and a -C2B2. Maybe that's where I figured that out. Not
sure who ended up with the bones of 4186B after it's untimely demise,
but the answer would be easy to determine by looking at the mags.
chris
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Subject: | Re: looking for 520 |
Peter Bichier wrote:
>
> It certainly looks like she was a great ship... but the same can be
> said of N411V and now...
>
> Anyways, here the link:
That's just sad.... Sure would be nice to see that airplane saved, but
somehow I doubt it will happen
chris
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