---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/17/11: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:06 AM - Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan (stratobee) 2. 04:18 AM - Re: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan (cybersuperstore) 3. 06:51 AM - Re: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan (Russell Legg) 4. 07:44 AM - Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan (stratobee) 5. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan (Jack B. Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:37 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan From: "stratobee" Thanks Peter for coming out and sending her off! I wrote a lengthy posting here and then the internet went down and I lost every word. Drives me completely nuts and I'm screaming at the screen as I type this, foaming at the mouth. So I'll do an abbreviated version as I just cant face writing it all again. Stopped at Grinnell, IA, Ogalalla, NE, Spanish Fork, UT, Eureka, NV. 150kts at the start. Soon pummeled even down low and GS dropped. We hit Sierras in the dark. I'm very nervous - don't like mountain flying at night. Headwind 70kts! Precautionary stop at Eureka, NV just to top off for last 2 hr leg. Crosswind gusting to 27kts. I dread climbing back up to 12500 at night, but we do it. As we pass most inhabitable peaks, left engine shudders twice. If it quits, there is nowhere to go. But it behaves after that scare. Bay area socked in at 6000ft, we're at 12500. No way to get down. We fly south endlessly over Sierra peaks, desperately looking for lights. Very uneasy now. Dread having to turn around back over the Sierras into NV again with an engine that has given me a scare. We've come to far. Finally we spot a light and an airport beacon (E45) and we just about manage to squeeze into the valley between mountain and clouds. Average GS last 4-5hrs was 75-80kts. Not kidding. Both engines ran like butter, except for shudder. We have theories of what it could have been and it will be investigated. Right engine uses a little too much oil for comfort, but could be something trivial. Mentally preparing myself for a top overhaul, nevertheless. Great adventure, great people, great scenery and a trip I won't forget. I will however try to forget the $1600 fuel bill.. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331320#331320 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0861_755.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0859_187.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0854_155.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0845_870.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0837_186.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:25 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan Ouch!, Adam. However, it ended well. Just as a future tip that may come in handy, especially for us who now have to go without a more detailed account of events: I always write in Word beforehand so I can save regularly before putting my work into an email reader, like Outlook, for instance. Too many times I had the experience of losing stuff especially when I thought what I wrote was the product of once-in-a-lifetime creativity that couldn't be recreated. Thanks Nico -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stratobee Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:04 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan Thanks Peter for coming out and sending her off! I wrote a lengthy posting here and then the internet went down and I lost every word. Drives me completely nuts and I'm screaming at the screen as I type this, foaming at the mouth. So I'll do an abbreviated version as I just cant face writing it all again. Stopped at Grinnell, IA, Ogalalla, NE, Spanish Fork, UT, Eureka, NV. 150kts at the start. Soon pummeled even down low and GS dropped. We hit Sierras in the dark. I'm very nervous - don't like mountain flying at night. Headwind 70kts! Precautionary stop at Eureka, NV just to top off for last 2 hr leg. Crosswind gusting to 27kts. I dread climbing back up to 12500 at night, but we do it. As we pass most inhabitable peaks, left engine shudders twice. If it quits, there is nowhere to go. But it behaves after that scare. Bay area socked in at 6000ft, we're at 12500. No way to get down. We fly south endlessly over Sierra peaks, desperately looking for lights. Very uneasy now. Dread having to turn around back over the Sierras into NV again with an engine that has given me a scare. We've come to far. Finally we spot a light and an airport beacon (E45) and we just about manage to squeeze into the valley between mountain and clouds. Average GS last 4-5hrs was 75-80kts. Not kidding. Both engines ran like butter, except for shudder. We have theories of what it could have been and it will be investigated. Right engine uses a little too much oil for comfort, but could be something trivial. Mentally preparing myself for a top overhaul, nevertheless. Great adventure, great people, great scenery and a trip I won't forget. I will however try to forget the $1600 fuel bill.. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331320#331320 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0861_755.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0859_187.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0854_155.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0845_870.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0837_186.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan From: Russell Legg Hi Adam, You were blessed to have the company of Jimbob...what a wonderful set of learning hyperbolae!! At least you were fuelling a 520...just imagine the extra fuel that a 680E would have consumed for the same trip! Cheers from Oz Russell On 17/02/2011, at 9:41 PM, cybersuperstore wrote: > > Ouch!, Adam. > > However, it ended well. > > Just as a future tip that may come in handy, especially for us who now have > to go without a more detailed account of events: I always write in Word > beforehand so I can save regularly before putting my work into an email > reader, like Outlook, for instance. Too many times I had the experience of > losing stuff especially when I thought what I wrote was the product of > once-in-a-lifetime creativity that couldn't be recreated. > > Thanks > > Nico > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stratobee > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:04 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P > from Michigan > > > Thanks Peter for coming out and sending her off! > > I wrote a lengthy posting here and then the internet went down and I lost > every word. Drives me completely nuts and I'm screaming at the screen as I > type this, foaming at the mouth. So I'll do an abbreviated version as I just > cant face writing it all again. > > Stopped at Grinnell, IA, Ogalalla, NE, Spanish Fork, UT, Eureka, NV. > > 150kts at the start. Soon pummeled even down low and GS dropped. We hit > Sierras in the dark. I'm very nervous - don't like mountain flying at night. > Headwind 70kts! Precautionary stop at Eureka, NV just to top off for last 2 > hr leg. Crosswind gusting to 27kts. I dread climbing back up to 12500 at > night, but we do it. As we pass most inhabitable peaks, left engine shudders > twice. If it quits, there is nowhere to go. But it behaves after that scare. > > Bay area socked in at 6000ft, we're at 12500. No way to get down. We fly > south endlessly over Sierra peaks, desperately looking for lights. Very > uneasy now. Dread having to turn around back over the Sierras into NV again > with an engine that has given me a scare. We've come to far. Finally we spot > a light and an airport beacon (E45) and we just about manage to squeeze into > the valley between mountain and clouds. > > Average GS last 4-5hrs was 75-80kts. Not kidding. > > Both engines ran like butter, except for shudder. We have theories of what > it could have been and it will be investigated. Right engine uses a little > too much oil for comfort, but could be something trivial. Mentally preparing > myself for a top overhaul, nevertheless. > > Great adventure, great people, great scenery and a trip I won't forget. I > will however try to forget the $1600 fuel bill.. > > -------- > Adam > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331320#331320 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0861_755.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0859_187.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0854_155.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0845_870.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0837_186.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:29 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan From: "stratobee" Thanks. Flight took about 16hrs airborne in the end. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331336#331336 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:02 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Mills" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan Russell, As far as fuel goes, worse yet it could be a 680Fp Moe N680RR -------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell Legg" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P from Michigan > > > Hi Adam, > > You were blessed to have the company of Jimbob...what a wonderful set of > learning hyperbolae!! > > At least you were fuelling a 520...just imagine the extra fuel that a 680E > would have consumed for the same trip! > > Cheers from Oz > > Russell > > > On 17/02/2011, at 9:41 PM, cybersuperstore wrote: > >> >> >> Ouch!, Adam. >> >> However, it ended well. >> >> Just as a future tip that may come in handy, especially for us who now >> have >> to go without a more detailed account of events: I always write in Word >> beforehand so I can save regularly before putting my work into an email >> reader, like Outlook, for instance. Too many times I had the experience >> of >> losing stuff especially when I thought what I wrote was the product of >> once-in-a-lifetime creativity that couldn't be recreated. >> >> Thanks >> >> Nico >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stratobee >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:04 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander spotting KPHN & farewell for N527P >> from Michigan >> >> >> Thanks Peter for coming out and sending her off! >> >> I wrote a lengthy posting here and then the internet went down and I lost >> every word. Drives me completely nuts and I'm screaming at the screen as >> I >> type this, foaming at the mouth. So I'll do an abbreviated version as I >> just >> cant face writing it all again. >> >> Stopped at Grinnell, IA, Ogalalla, NE, Spanish Fork, UT, Eureka, NV. >> >> 150kts at the start. Soon pummeled even down low and GS dropped. We hit >> Sierras in the dark. I'm very nervous - don't like mountain flying at >> night. >> Headwind 70kts! Precautionary stop at Eureka, NV just to top off for last >> 2 >> hr leg. Crosswind gusting to 27kts. I dread climbing back up to 12500 at >> night, but we do it. As we pass most inhabitable peaks, left engine >> shudders >> twice. If it quits, there is nowhere to go. But it behaves after that >> scare. >> >> Bay area socked in at 6000ft, we're at 12500. No way to get down. We fly >> south endlessly over Sierra peaks, desperately looking for lights. Very >> uneasy now. Dread having to turn around back over the Sierras into NV >> again >> with an engine that has given me a scare. We've come to far. Finally we >> spot >> a light and an airport beacon (E45) and we just about manage to squeeze >> into >> the valley between mountain and clouds. >> >> Average GS last 4-5hrs was 75-80kts. Not kidding. >> >> Both engines ran like butter, except for shudder. We have theories of >> what >> it could have been and it will be investigated. Right engine uses a >> little >> too much oil for comfort, but could be something trivial. Mentally >> preparing >> myself for a top overhaul, nevertheless. >> >> Great adventure, great people, great scenery and a trip I won't forget. I >> will however try to forget the $1600 fuel bill.. >> >> -------- >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331320#331320 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0861_755.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0859_187.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0854_155.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0845_870.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0837_186.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.