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1. 01:32 AM - Re: Single engine procedures. (stratobee)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: Single engine procedures. (Cate Chagnot)
3. 04:57 AM - Re: Re: Single engine procedures. (cybersuperstore)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: Single engine procedures. (Cate Chagnot)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Single engine procedures. (BobsV35B@aol.com)
6. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: Single engine procedures. (Jim Addington)
7. 03:36 PM - Re: RL-26D (680E) For Sale (stratobee)
8. 03:36 PM - Re: RL-26D (680E) For Sale (stratobee)
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| Subject: | Re: Single engine procedures. |
Thanks Bill.
No, I'm doing the multi in a Seneca and am almost finished now.
That's some good advice about the 520 and the stuff I wanted to hear. How to keep
directional control and all that is what the general training and rating is
for, but I wanted the specifics of the 520 so that when I simulate an engine
failure or even shutdown an engine to get the experience, I would like to be able
to restart it and unfeather it. I don't want to find myself in a scenario
where I can't unfeather, can't start and have to do a landing on one engine. Good
practice, I'm sure, but not something I want to do first thing out.
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| Subject: | Re: Single engine procedures. |
Adam,
I know it's a long way to go from California but you won't find anyone better to
give you training in your Commander than Bill Leff. He trained me in mine and
does my re-current training. Well worth the cost and trouble to get to Dayton.
Get some time in a taildragger if you can. It will help you deal with an engine
out situation since keeping the nose straight with rudder will become automatic.
Cate N4278S N180PK
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| Subject: | Re: Single engine procedures. |
Hi Cate,
Why would a taildraggger be particularly good to teach one keeping the nose
straight automatically? I don't have taildragger experience to speak of, but
a couple of thousand MEL hours (Commanders included) and keeping the nose
straight has been second nature almost since Pontius was a pupil pilot. Am I
missing something that taildragger experience would reveal and fix? I am
ignorant about taildraggers, hence the question...
Nico
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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 4:41 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Single engine procedures.
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Adam,
I know it's a long way to go from California but you won't find anyone
better to give you training in your Commander than Bill Leff. He trained me
in mine and does my re-current training. Well worth the cost and trouble to
get to Dayton.
Get some time in a taildragger if you can. It will help you deal with an
engine out situation since keeping the nose straight with rudder will become
automatic.
Cate N4278S N180PK
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N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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| Subject: | Re: Single engine procedures. |
Hi Nico,
Lots of hours in a taildragger requires one learn the mantra, "Rudder, rudder,
rudder"! You get used to automatically and instantly keeping the nose straight
or else you end up ground looping (or worse). Un conventional gear airplanes
don't really teach you this to the point where it's so automatic you don't think
about it. That's all. It helps.
Cate
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| Subject: | Re: Single engine procedures. |
Good Morning Nico,
If you learn to fly in a Luscombe, you will develop good rudder technique
because the airplane will bite if not handled correctly. If you learn to fly
in a Piper J-3 Cub, you can learn good rudder technique, but using lousy
technique, you will probably survive.
What this means is that for the J-3 style and tricycle gear airplanes, it
is the instructor that determines whether or not the client uses good rudder
technique.
If the trainer is a classic Ercoupe, It is very difficult to learn proper
rudder use.
For the vast majority of tricycle gear airplanes, if the instructor does
not teach coordination well, the student is no better off than if he/she
learned in an Ercoupe.
Start with a Stearman or a Luscombe and the instructor competency is
immaterial. The airplane will do the teaching!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
PS, While I agree with the Rudder, Rudder, Rudder mantra, an equally
important one is STOP THE TURN!
In a message dated 4/2/2011 6:57:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
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<nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Hi Cate,
Why would a taildraggger be particularly good to teach one keeping the nose
straight automatically? I don't have taildragger experience to speak of,
but
a couple of thousand MEL hours (Commanders included) and keeping the nose
straight has been second nature almost since Pontius was a pupil pilot. Am
I
missing something that taildragger experience would reveal and fix? I am
ignorant about taildraggers, hence the question...
Nico
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cate
Chagnot
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 4:41 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Single engine procedures.
--> <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Adam,
I know it's a long way to go from California but you won't find anyone
better to give you training in your Commander than Bill Leff. He trained me
in mine and does my re-current training. Well worth the cost and trouble to
get to Dayton.
Get some time in a taildragger if you can. It will help you deal with an
engine out situation since keeping the nose straight with rudder will
become
automatic.
Cate N4278S N180PK
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Cate
N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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| Subject: | Re: Single engine procedures. |
Nico,
In a tail wheel airplane you have to fly from the time you leave the chocks
until you get back to them because when you look off it will look too but it
may look the other way. It makes you very alert to directional control.
Besides they are fun to fly.
Jim Addington
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cate Chagnot
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:33 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Single engine procedures.
<cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Hi Nico,
Lots of hours in a taildragger requires one learn the mantra, "Rudder,
rudder, rudder"! You get used to automatically and instantly keeping the
nose straight or else you end up ground looping (or worse). Un conventional
gear airplanes don't really teach you this to the point where it's so
automatic you don't think about it. That's all. It helps.
Cate
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N4278S 680E
Skywagon N180PK
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| Subject: | Re: RL-26D (680E) For Sale |
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