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I was questioning the impromptu nature of that formation, too. Maybe it was
a good thing that they were not in a formal formation because it was a poor
demonstration of skills if that were the case. However, I still appreciated
the Commander in its natural environment.
I'd be pissed if someone tail-gated me while I was carrying paying
customers. Just a thought.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
--> <blorber@southwestcirrus.com>
I don't know whether they were formation or not.
Formation would indicate a mutual acceptance of proximity. Based on the
radio chatter, the commander pilot was grudgingly accepting it, but not
willing to join a flight. As in, I'm on a charter, here, and that's outside
my op specs.
I took that as no pre-brief, and therefore incursion on the part of the
beech driver. Couple that with the confusion thus generated with ATC
(multiple A/C in close proximity and not a flight), and I read fail.
I'm open to other interpretations.
Brock
John Vormbaum wrote:
> --> <john@vormbaum.com>
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> Hey Brock, where did they board the Failboat? Was it the very loose
> "formation" they were flying? Just curious....I didn't watch all 9
> min. of it, just clicked through and watched a little footage of the
Commander.
>
> /J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> Lorber
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:10 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
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> <blorber@southwestcirrus.com>
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> great is one way put it. Filled with fail is how I would say it, but,
> whatever.
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> cybersuperstore wrote:
> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>> That was great!
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Fisher
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:53 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
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>> --> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
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>> Very nice.
>> Tom
>> former 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
>> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:12 PM
>> Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
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>>> --> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
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>>> Now, that wouldn't be N620DR that went to Pago Pago, by any chance?
>>> If
> so,
>>> check out this formation arrival shot from a Baron when they came
>>> into
>>> Fiji:
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>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/BonanzaG36?email=comment_reply_received
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It was pointed out to me that these guys were flying together for 30 hours
on an ocean-crossing when this video was shot.
I didn't know that.
That explains their camaraderie.
Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cybersuperstore
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:05 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
--> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
I was questioning the impromptu nature of that formation, too. Maybe it was
a good thing that they were not in a formal formation because it was a poor
demonstration of skills if that were the case. However, I still appreciated
the Commander in its natural environment.
I'd be pissed if someone tail-gated me while I was carrying paying
customers. Just a thought.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
--> <blorber@southwestcirrus.com>
I don't know whether they were formation or not.
Formation would indicate a mutual acceptance of proximity. Based on the
radio chatter, the commander pilot was grudgingly accepting it, but not
willing to join a flight. As in, I'm on a charter, here, and that's outside
my op specs.
I took that as no pre-brief, and therefore incursion on the part of the
beech driver. Couple that with the confusion thus generated with ATC
(multiple A/C in close proximity and not a flight), and I read fail.
I'm open to other interpretations.
Brock
John Vormbaum wrote:
> --> <john@vormbaum.com>
>
> Hey Brock, where did they board the Failboat? Was it the very loose
> "formation" they were flying? Just curious....I didn't watch all 9
> min. of it, just clicked through and watched a little footage of the
Commander.
>
> /J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock
> Lorber
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:10 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
>
> <blorber@southwestcirrus.com>
>
> great is one way put it. Filled with fail is how I would say it, but,
> whatever.
>
> cybersuperstore wrote:
> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>> That was great!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Fisher
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:53 PM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
>>
>> --> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>>
>> Very nice.
>> Tom
>> former 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
>> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:12 PM
>> Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT
>>
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>>> --> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
>>>
>>> Now, that wouldn't be N620DR that went to Pago Pago, by any chance?
>>> If
> so,
>>> check out this formation arrival shot from a Baron when they came
>>> into
>>> Fiji:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/BonanzaG36?email=comment_reply_received
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Adam
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336894#336894
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