---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/16/11: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:10 AM - Re: Re: NICE FLIGHT (cybersuperstore) 2. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: NICE FLIGHT (cybersuperstore) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:40 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT I was questioning the impromptu nature of that formation, too. Maybe it was a good thing that they were not in a formal formation because it was a poor demonstration of skills if that were the case. However, I still appreciated the Commander in its natural environment. I'd be pissed if someone tail-gated me while I was carrying paying customers. Just a thought. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT --> I don't know whether they were formation or not. Formation would indicate a mutual acceptance of proximity. Based on the radio chatter, the commander pilot was grudgingly accepting it, but not willing to join a flight. As in, I'm on a charter, here, and that's outside my op specs. I took that as no pre-brief, and therefore incursion on the part of the beech driver. Couple that with the confusion thus generated with ATC (multiple A/C in close proximity and not a flight), and I read fail. I'm open to other interpretations. Brock John Vormbaum wrote: > --> > > Hey Brock, where did they board the Failboat? Was it the very loose > "formation" they were flying? Just curious....I didn't watch all 9 > min. of it, just clicked through and watched a little footage of the Commander. > > /J > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock > Lorber > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:10 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT > > > > great is one way put it. Filled with fail is how I would say it, but, > whatever. > > cybersuperstore wrote: > >> That was great! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom >> Fisher >> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:53 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT >> >> --> >> >> Very nice. >> Tom >> former 680FLP (Mr.RPM) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "stratobee" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:12 PM >> Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT >> >> >>> --> >>> >>> Now, that wouldn't be N620DR that went to Pago Pago, by any chance? >>> If > so, >>> check out this formation arrival shot from a Baron when they came >>> into >>> Fiji: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/BonanzaG36?email=comment_reply_received >>> >>> -------- >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336894#336894 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:25 AM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT It was pointed out to me that these guys were flying together for 30 hours on an ocean-crossing when this video was shot. I didn't know that. That explains their camaraderie. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cybersuperstore Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT --> I was questioning the impromptu nature of that formation, too. Maybe it was a good thing that they were not in a formal formation because it was a poor demonstration of skills if that were the case. However, I still appreciated the Commander in its natural environment. I'd be pissed if someone tail-gated me while I was carrying paying customers. Just a thought. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock Lorber Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT --> I don't know whether they were formation or not. Formation would indicate a mutual acceptance of proximity. Based on the radio chatter, the commander pilot was grudgingly accepting it, but not willing to join a flight. As in, I'm on a charter, here, and that's outside my op specs. I took that as no pre-brief, and therefore incursion on the part of the beech driver. Couple that with the confusion thus generated with ATC (multiple A/C in close proximity and not a flight), and I read fail. I'm open to other interpretations. Brock John Vormbaum wrote: > --> > > Hey Brock, where did they board the Failboat? Was it the very loose > "formation" they were flying? Just curious....I didn't watch all 9 > min. of it, just clicked through and watched a little footage of the Commander. > > /J > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brock > Lorber > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:10 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT > > > > great is one way put it. Filled with fail is how I would say it, but, > whatever. > > cybersuperstore wrote: > >> That was great! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom >> Fisher >> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:53 PM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT >> >> --> >> >> Very nice. >> Tom >> former 680FLP (Mr.RPM) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "stratobee" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:12 PM >> Subject: Commander-List: Re: NICE FLIGHT >> >> >>> --> >>> >>> Now, that wouldn't be N620DR that went to Pago Pago, by any chance? >>> If > so, >>> check out this formation arrival shot from a Baron when they came >>> into >>> Fiji: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/BonanzaG36?email=comment_reply_received >>> >>> -------- >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336894#336894 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.