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1. 12:49 AM - Re: Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE (Barry Collman)
2. 12:55 AM - Re: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue (Barry Collman)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue (Stan)
4. 06:43 AM - Re: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue (Barry Collman)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE (Keith S. Gordon)
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Subject: | Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE |
Hello Keith,
Grateful thanks for taking the time and trouble to take the shots of N234WM
at Couer d'Alene, they are very much appreciated.
The current owners bought it in May 2006, but seemingly not made much use of
it!
It was briefly owned by Gary Gadberry's Aircenter Inc in 1996 and the
'Shrike-Alike' mods were signed-off as being installed in June 1997.
The winglets were shown as installed under STC SA1158GL, so I guess are
genuine.
See you left the door open on your Nissan Altima while you took the shots,
so hope not too much of the 'airconned' air escaped ;-)
Very Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith S.
Gordon
Sent: 19 April 2011 22:23
Subject: Commander-List: Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE
Sir Barry, All,
Was in Coer d' Alane, Idaho (KCOE) two weekends ago and took some pix. Used
my GPS camera to again, I apologize for the quality.
This looks to be a Gary Gadberry AC500A with most of his Shrike mods. From a
distance I was thrown off balance by a Shrike looking Commander with two
blade props! Sadly, this bird has not flown in quite a while. I make that
deduction based on the condition of the tires and bungees.
The winglettes look suspicious to me. They appear to be bootleg winglettes
and not the AeroDyne product, but I may just be twitchy about that having
seen bootlegs appear on Commanders before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas
NBAA Access Committee
Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep
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Subject: | Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue |
Hi Stan,
That must be quite an old photo, as it's been with John Towner since March 1992
and was re-Registered as N607MM in September 1992.
As N252LD, it was owned by various parties domiciled in Anchorage, between April
1978 & March 1992.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of swperk@earthlink.net
Sent: 19 April 2011 18:17
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue
In the latest issue of Business & Commercial Aviation, I noticed a photo on page
32 of a flat-nacelled Commander (N252LD) sitting at the GA ramp at the Anchorage
Airport. Just for fun, I Googled the N-number to see a bit of its history,
and found that it had been "substantially damaged" in two separate fuel exhaustion
accidents, the first on 8/4/68 in Kennard, TX, and the second on 1/6/77
in Kiowa, CO. Since the B&CA photo is a lot more recent than those two incidents,
it would appear that N252LD "took a lickin' and kept on tickin'!"
Stan
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Subject: | Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue |
Hi Barry,
Thanks for the info! Bert Berry sent me several photos of it taken after the TX
incident and two more of it after it had been repainted and reregistered to John
Towner. The last photo he sent me was the very same photo as the one in the
B&CA article!
BTW, here's a link to the article, complete with the photo in question:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/bca0411p01.xml&headline=Alaska:%20Aviation%27s%20Gateway%20to%20Asia&channel=bca
Regards,
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:53 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue
--> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Stan,
That must be quite an old photo, as it's been with John Towner since March 1992
and was re-Registered as N607MM in September 1992.
As N252LD, it was owned by various parties domiciled in Anchorage, between April
1978 & March 1992.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of swperk@earthlink.net
Sent: 19 April 2011 18:17
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue
In the latest issue of Business & Commercial Aviation, I noticed a photo on page
32 of a flat-nacelled Commander (N252LD) sitting at the GA ramp at the Anchorage
Airport. Just for fun, I Googled the N-number to see a bit of its history,
and found that it had been "substantially damaged" in two separate fuel exhaustion
accidents, the first on 8/4/68 in Kennard, TX, and the second on 1/6/77
in Kiowa, CO. Since the B&CA photo is a lot more recent than those two incidents,
it would appear that N252LD "took a lickin' and kept on tickin'!"
Stan
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Subject: | Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue |
Thanks Stan!
Very Best Regards,
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan
Sent: 20 April 2011 14:03
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue
Hi Barry,
Thanks for the info! Bert Berry sent me several photos of it taken after the TX
incident and two more of it after it had been repainted and reregistered to John
Towner. The last photo he sent me was the very same photo as the one in the
B&CA article!
BTW, here's a link to the article, complete with the photo in question:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/bca0411p01.xml&headline=Alaska:%20Aviation%27s%20Gateway%20to%20Asia&channel=bca
Regards,
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:53 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue
--> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Stan,
That must be quite an old photo, as it's been with John Towner since March 1992
and was re-Registered as N607MM in September 1992.
As N252LD, it was owned by various parties domiciled in Anchorage, between April
1978 & March 1992.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of swperk@earthlink.net
Sent: 19 April 2011 18:17
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 500U photo in latest B&CA issue
In the latest issue of Business & Commercial Aviation, I noticed a photo on page
32 of a flat-nacelled Commander (N252LD) sitting at the GA ramp at the Anchorage
Airport. Just for fun, I Googled the N-number to see a bit of its history,
and found that it had been "substantially damaged" in two separate fuel exhaustion
accidents, the first on 8/4/68 in Kennard, TX, and the second on 1/6/77
in Kiowa, CO. Since the B&CA photo is a lot more recent than those two incidents,
it would appear that N252LD "took a lickin' and kept on tickin'!"
Stan
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Subject: | Re: Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE |
See you left the door open on your Nissan Altima while you took the shots,
so hope not too much of the =98airconned=99 air escaped ;-)
Not to worry. The air outside the car was cooler than the air inside.
I was so glad to be out of the desert and in the fresh, cool, mountain ai
r that I wanted to stuff as much of it as I could into my car -- and for
the record, that is a rental. MY car is a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.
Glad that the winglettes are the genuine article.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas
NBAA Access Committee
Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 12:47 am
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE
Hello Keith,
Grateful thanks for taking the time and trouble to take the shots of N234W
M at Couer d=99Alene, they are very much appreciated.
The current owners bought it in May 2006, but seemingly not made much use
of it!
It was briefly owned by Gary Gadberry=99s Aircenter Inc in 1996 and
the =98Shrike-Alike=99 mods were signed-off as being installe
d in June 1997.
The winglets were shown as installed under STC SA1158GL, so I guess are ge
nuine.
See you left the door open on your Nissan Altima while you took the shots,
so hope not too much of the =98airconned=99 air escaped ;-)
Very Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith S. Gordon
Sent: 19 April 2011 22:23
Subject: Commander-List: Commander Spotting - N234WM at KCOE
Sir Barry, All,
Was in Coer d' Alane, Idaho (KCOE) two weekends ago and took some pix. Us
ed my GPS camera to again, I apologize for the quality.
This looks to be a Gary Gadberry AC500A with most of his Shrike mods. From
a distance I was thrown off balance by a Shrike looking Commander with tw
o blade props! Sadly, this bird has not flown in quite a while. I make
that deduction based on the condition of the tires and bungees.
The winglettes look suspicious to me. They appear to be bootleg winglette
s and not the AeroDyne product, but I may just be twitchy about that havin
g seen bootlegs appear on Commanders before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas
NBAA Access Committee
Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep
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