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     1. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Considering a 500S.... (Moe Mills)
     2. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Considering a 500S.... (Moe Mills)
 
 
 
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Time:  05:50:36 PM PST US 
From:  Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com> 
Subject:  Re: Considering a 500S.... 
      
      
      Hi Adam=2C
      
      Very interesting.  Just goes to show that you have to more or less square t
      he power (and fuel burn) to increase the speed of basically the same airfra
      me.  Last week end I flew to Mena=2C AR from Farmington=2C NM.  It appears 
      that you get about 4.8 NM per gallon=2C whereas=2C I get only about 3.3 NM 
      per gallon=2C crusing at about 180 Kts.  About 40% difference in fuel burn 
      to get there.  The best price I could find was in Borger=2C TX=2C $ 5.22 pe
      r gallon=2C literally next to the Phillips Refinery.  Hope you make it to M
      ichigan with your bird.
      
      Best regards=2C
      
      Moe
      
      
      > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S....
      > From: adam@adamfrisch.com
      > Date: Fri=2C 1 Jul 2011 12:49:30 -0700
      > To: commander-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > Moe=2C I've just finished a 17hr tour of the north west - my first real f
      lying on my own - so have some fresh numbers. My fuel burn was around 29gph
       when I stayed low=2C but can be forced down to 23-25gph up high. It's a li
      ttle tricky to gage as the tanks transfer fuel and most FBO guys don't have
       the time to spend 15 minutes refuelling them. It's easier when you can do 
      it yourself=2C but even I sometimes had to give up on those last gallons. 
      > 
      > The above numbers are at 20-22" and 2500-2600 rpm=2C so pretty throttled 
      back. She showed around 135-140kts here=2C so not bad considering. I know B
      onanzas that burn that much! The posh FBO's always charge an arm and a leg
      =2C but I found Avgas for around $5.20/gal on this trip and according to my
       little Foreflight software=2C there were out-of-the-way strips with prices
       as low as $4.70. I'll try to hit those next time.
      > 
      > Also=2C as a friend once put it - any airplane will be cheaper than a cok
      e habit! :D
      > 
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      > Adam
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      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344618#344618
      > 
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Time:  08:18:02 PM PST US 
From:  Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com> 
Subject:  Re: Considering a 500S.... 
      
      
      Fellow Commander Drivers=2C
      
      There is an interesting letter to the editor=2C on page three of the July 2
      011 issue of Twin &Turbine=2C by fellow member Randy Dettmer.
      
      Moe
      N680RR
      680F(p)
      
      
      From: moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S....
      
      
      Hi Adam=2C
      
      Very interesting.  Just goes to show that you have to more or less square t
      he power (and fuel burn) to increase the speed of basically the same airfra
      me.  Last week end I flew to Mena=2C AR from Farmington=2C NM.  It appears 
      that you get about 4.8 NM per gallon=2C whereas=2C I get only about 3.3 NM 
      per gallon=2C crusing at about 180 Kts.  About 40% difference in fuel burn 
      to get there.  The best price I could find was in Borger=2C TX=2C $ 5.22 pe
      r gallon=2C literally next to the Phillips Refinery.  Hope you make it to M
      ichigan with your bird.
      
      Best regards=2C
      
      Moe
      
      
      > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S....
      > From: adam@adamfrisch.com
      > Date: Fri=2C 1 Jul 2011 12:49:30 -0700
      > To: commander-list@matronics.com
      > 
      > 
      > Moe=2C I've just finished a 17hr tour of the north west - my first real f
      lying on my own - so have some fresh numbers. My fuel burn was around 29gph
       when I stayed low=2C but can be forced down to 23-25gph up high. It's a li
      ttle tricky to gage as the tanks transfer fuel and most FBO guys don't have
       the time to spend 15 minutes refuelling them. It's easier when you can do 
      it yourself=2C but even I sometimes had to give up on those last gallons. 
      > 
      > The above numbers are at 20-22" and 2500-2600 rpm=2C so pretty throttled 
      back. She showed around 135-140kts here=2C so not bad considering. I know B
      onanzas that burn that much! The posh FBO's always charge an arm and a leg
      =2C but I found Avgas for around $5.20/gal on this trip and according to my
       little Foreflight software=2C there were out-of-the-way strips with prices
       as low as $4.70. I'll try to hit those next time.
      > 
      > Also=2C as a friend once put it - any airplane will be cheaper than a cok
      e habit! :D
      > 
      > --------
      > Adam
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344618#344618
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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