---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/14/11: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Considering a 500S.... (Moe Mills) 2. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Considering a 500S.... (Moe Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:36 PM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S.... Hi Adam=2C Very interesting. Just goes to show that you have to more or less square t he power (and fuel burn) to increase the speed of basically the same airfra me. Last week end I flew to Mena=2C AR from Farmington=2C NM. It appears that you get about 4.8 NM per gallon=2C whereas=2C I get only about 3.3 NM per gallon=2C crusing at about 180 Kts. About 40% difference in fuel burn to get there. The best price I could find was in Borger=2C TX=2C $ 5.22 pe r gallon=2C literally next to the Phillips Refinery. Hope you make it to M ichigan with your bird. Best regards=2C Moe > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S.... > From: adam@adamfrisch.com > Date: Fri=2C 1 Jul 2011 12:49:30 -0700 > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > > Moe=2C I've just finished a 17hr tour of the north west - my first real f lying on my own - so have some fresh numbers. My fuel burn was around 29gph when I stayed low=2C but can be forced down to 23-25gph up high. It's a li ttle tricky to gage as the tanks transfer fuel and most FBO guys don't have the time to spend 15 minutes refuelling them. It's easier when you can do it yourself=2C but even I sometimes had to give up on those last gallons. > > The above numbers are at 20-22" and 2500-2600 rpm=2C so pretty throttled back. She showed around 135-140kts here=2C so not bad considering. I know B onanzas that burn that much! The posh FBO's always charge an arm and a leg =2C but I found Avgas for around $5.20/gal on this trip and according to my little Foreflight software=2C there were out-of-the-way strips with prices as low as $4.70. I'll try to hit those next time. > > Also=2C as a friend once put it - any airplane will be cheaper than a cok e habit! :D > > -------- > Adam > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344618#344618 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:02 PM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S.... Fellow Commander Drivers=2C There is an interesting letter to the editor=2C on page three of the July 2 011 issue of Twin &Turbine=2C by fellow member Randy Dettmer. Moe N680RR 680F(p) From: moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S.... Hi Adam=2C Very interesting. Just goes to show that you have to more or less square t he power (and fuel burn) to increase the speed of basically the same airfra me. Last week end I flew to Mena=2C AR from Farmington=2C NM. It appears that you get about 4.8 NM per gallon=2C whereas=2C I get only about 3.3 NM per gallon=2C crusing at about 180 Kts. About 40% difference in fuel burn to get there. The best price I could find was in Borger=2C TX=2C $ 5.22 pe r gallon=2C literally next to the Phillips Refinery. Hope you make it to M ichigan with your bird. Best regards=2C Moe > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Considering a 500S.... > From: adam@adamfrisch.com > Date: Fri=2C 1 Jul 2011 12:49:30 -0700 > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > > Moe=2C I've just finished a 17hr tour of the north west - my first real f lying on my own - so have some fresh numbers. My fuel burn was around 29gph when I stayed low=2C but can be forced down to 23-25gph up high. It's a li ttle tricky to gage as the tanks transfer fuel and most FBO guys don't have the time to spend 15 minutes refuelling them. It's easier when you can do it yourself=2C but even I sometimes had to give up on those last gallons. > > The above numbers are at 20-22" and 2500-2600 rpm=2C so pretty throttled back. She showed around 135-140kts here=2C so not bad considering. I know B onanzas that burn that much! The posh FBO's always charge an arm and a leg =2C but I found Avgas for around $5.20/gal on this trip and according to my little Foreflight software=2C there were out-of-the-way strips with prices as low as $4.70. I'll try to hit those next time. > > Also=2C as a friend once put it - any airplane will be cheaper than a cok e habit! :D > > -------- > Adam > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344618#344618 > > > > >====================== &g=================== > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.