---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/31/11: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:25 AM - Re: Commander Spotting at Oshkosh! (Barry Collman) 2. 07:29 PM - Spotted at Oshkosh! (cybersuperstore) 3. 09:49 PM - Re: Spotted at Oshkosh! (Keith S. Gordon) 4. 10:10 PM - Re: Spotted at Oshkosh! (Stan) 5. 10:20 PM - Re: Spotted at Oshkosh! (Russell Legg) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:25:15 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander Spotting at Oshkosh! Hi Peter, That's got to be Scott Main's HC560A, s/n 247, N30U. It's a genuine ex USAF/US Army example, formerly 55-4638. Best Regards, Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bichier Sent: 31 July 2011 05:07 Subject: Commander-List: Commander Spotting at Oshkosh! --> Hey Barry, check this link, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=225645607471330&set=a.225288654173692 .49012.117868041582421&type=1&theater and check photo 24 of 52. Who's replica of Air Force 1 that is? I remember someone on the forum asking about paint scheme for that specific bird... Obviously a flying commander! do they some times move the one at Dayton? that's great to see it with the original color scheme! Is that the 560E? or 680E? May be one day I'll get to go to Oshkosh... always at a busy time of the year for me... hope you're doing fine, p. -------- 560 Dreamer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348109#348109 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:44 PM PST US From: "cybersuperstore" Subject: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! I didn't know this... http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_EAAAirVenture20 11_AerostarJetDebut_205127-1.html Very nice configuration. Nico ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! From: "Keith S. Gordon" Back in the olden days when AeroStar was at Santa Maria, CA, Ted Smith had renderings on the wall of the jet powered AeroStar. It was always intend ed to evolve into a jet. Ted Smith's jet powered 'Star, called the Shooting Star, had the engines pylon mounted just forward of the tail. I always wondered about the C.G. in that configuration and although not as elegant, this current idea with under wing mounted engines does retain the airplane's natural C.G. and ge ometry. I was thrilled to see the video of it flying. Thanks, Nico. Keith S. Gordon Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas NBAA Access Committee Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep -----Original Message----- From: cybersuperstore Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 7:20 pm Subject: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! ore.com> I didn't know this... http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_EAAAirVenture 20 11_AerostarJetDebut_205127-1.html Very nice configuration. Nico ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:01 PM PST US From: "Stan" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! I wonder what Ron Smith would have to say about this? Stan From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith S. Gordon Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! Back in the olden days when AeroStar was at Santa Maria, CA, Ted Smith had renderings on the wall of the jet powered AeroStar. It was always intended to evolve into a jet. Ted Smith's jet powered 'Star, called the Shooting Star, had the engines pylon mounted just forward of the tail. I always wondered about the C.G. in that configuration and although not as elegant, this current idea with under wing mounted engines does retain the airplane's natural C.G. and geometry. I was thrilled to see the video of it flying. Thanks, Nico. Keith S. Gordon Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas NBAA Access Committee Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep -----Original Message----- From: cybersuperstore Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 7:20 pm Subject: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! I didn't know this... http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_EAAAirVenture20 11_AerostarJetDebut_205127-1.html Very nice configuration. Nico =================================== t" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List =================================== ttp://forums.matronics.com =================================== "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:42 PM PST US From: Russell Legg Subject: Re: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! Hi Stan/Keith, Was this the one that Morris did a presentation on a couple of Flyins ago - sorry Keith a trick question for you...but Morris was upbeat about the design. Cheers from Oz Russell On 01/08/2011, at 2:37 PM, Stan wrote: > I wonder what Ron Smith would have to say about this? > > Stan > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith S. Gordon > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:47 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! > > Back in the olden days when AeroStar was at Santa Maria, CA, Ted Smith had renderings on the wall of the jet powered AeroStar. It was always intended to evolve into a jet. > > Ted Smith's jet powered 'Star, called the Shooting Star, had the engines pylon mounted just forward of the tail. I always wondered about the C.G. in that configuration and although not as elegant, this current idea with under wing mounted engines does retain the airplane's natural C.G. and geometry. > > I was thrilled to see the video of it flying. Thanks, Nico. > > Keith S. Gordon > Wing Commander Gordon > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas > NBAA Access Committee > Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep > Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep > Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cybersuperstore > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 7:20 pm > Subject: Commander-List: Spotted at Oshkosh! > > > I didn't know this... > > http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_EAAAirVenture 20 > 11_AerostarJetDebut_205127-1.html > > Very nice configuration. > > Nico > > > > ======================== =========== > t" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ======================== =========== > ttp://forums.matronics.com > ======================== =========== > "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ======================== =========== > > > > > > < - The Commander-List Email Forum Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.